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      09-23-2020 01:35 PM #6476
      Quote Originally Posted by smstiles View Post

      On a more BaT related note. I came close to pulling the trigger on a nice NA Miata last month. One thing that stopped me is I've never bought a car sight unseen. Yes, there are photos. Lots of them. And "expert commentary" on BaT. But, even eyes-on I've missed important things when inspecting a car. What do folks think about the level of comfort the peanut gallery on BaT provides?
      Cool! Which Miata? There were a few nice ones and a few dogs recently. There's a lot of information in the commentary on BAT auctions. You have to really be sure to reference what the usual suspects are that know Miatas. It really depends on what you think you're buying when you buy a 30yrs+ old car. It is going to be used. You will find broken or worn parts that don't make sense. But realistically, on a modern car like an NA Miata, you aren't going to find an entire body panels patched with ramen noodles or anything. Just buy a nice, clean 40K miles Miata with HT, hold onto it for a few years and see what happens. The market will keep going up for them. I'm just glad I committed to getting a lower mileage 91 BRG Miata a few years ago. Paid more than I wanted to then, but similar cars are going for close to $10K today.
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      09-23-2020 01:40 PM #6477
      Quote Originally Posted by roman16v View Post
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      Love this, wrong engine but right color. A 23 year old car you could drive forever with minimal maintenance.
      If this had the 6-speed in it, the fetching price would easily be upwards of 15K.

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    4. 09-23-2020 02:32 PM #6478
      Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Dave View Post
      Cool! Which Miata? There were a few nice ones and a few dogs recently. There's a lot of information in the commentary on BAT auctions. You have to really be sure to reference what the usual suspects are that know Miatas. It really depends on what you think you're buying when you buy a 30yrs+ old car. It is going to be used. You will find broken or worn parts that don't make sense. But realistically, on a modern car like an NA Miata, you aren't going to find an entire body panels patched with ramen noodles or anything. Just buy a nice, clean 40K miles Miata with HT, hold onto it for a few years and see what happens. The market will keep going up for them. I'm just glad I committed to getting a lower mileage 91 BRG Miata a few years ago. Paid more than I wanted to then, but similar cars are going for close to $10K today.
      There have been a few of them. Most recently a red '90 with super low miles. I keep bouncing back and forth between buying a nice NA or buying an ND. I had a '90 back in the day and it was a blast. Sold it to my parents and they loved it. Then we both had NBs. I went the FM2 route with mine and theirs is still stock'ish. I worry that I'd be frustrated with an NA and would throw a ton of money at it when at the end of the day an ND would do everything better. The issue with an ND is that I love to tinker. And 'round and 'round we go
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      09-23-2020 04:58 PM #6479
      https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...y-marauder-12/



      As much as I detest black cars, I'd still enjoy driving this. Those caliper covers would have to go though...

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      09-23-2020 05:04 PM #6480
      Quote Originally Posted by LT1M21Stingray View Post
      I think you should bid on it.
      I went in at $24k last night but it sold today for $33,900.

      I love the color combo but when you add in $1650 to BaT, I got a quote from Reliable trucking for $1700, and the odometer issue as well as an apparently "wrong" black interior that should have been grey just too rich for my blood at the moment. The search continues!

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      09-23-2020 05:06 PM #6481
      Quote Originally Posted by smstiles View Post
      There have been a few of them. Most recently a red '90 with super low miles. I keep bouncing back and forth between buying a nice NA or buying an ND. I had a '90 back in the day and it was a blast. Sold it to my parents and they loved it. Then we both had NBs. I went the FM2 route with mine and theirs is still stock'ish. I worry that I'd be frustrated with an NA and would throw a ton of money at it when at the end of the day an ND would do everything better. The issue with an ND is that I love to tinker. And 'round and 'round we go
      I get what you are saying but for me it would have to be an NA if I ever got a Miata. I feel like they really nailed it in the first iteration. I'd want one on steel wheels in that smurf blue.

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      09-23-2020 11:15 PM #6483
      Quote Originally Posted by roman16v View Post
      https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...y-marauder-12/



      As much as I detest black cars, I'd still enjoy driving this. Those caliper covers would have to go though...
      A hopped up Crown Vic? It’s a bit on the nose, don’t you think?
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      09-23-2020 11:52 PM #6484
      42K mile '84 Benz 500SEL:




      237 HP and 296 lb-ft of torque? Damn... My dad had an '84 380SE that I drove a good deal in the mid 90s, and that V8 was anemic AF, with something like 155 HP. Then again, the long wheelbase 500 also stickered for $52,310 in 1984 (over $130K today).
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      TCL would suggest a Bi-Turbo to a single mother of 4 just for sh*t's and giggles.
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      Here we can all drive like Colin McRae in his prime, earn $25k a month and bang super models. We can also text and drive.
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      09-24-2020 10:55 AM #6485
      It's for charity so good for whoever donated their slot.

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      09-24-2020 10:59 AM #6486
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      I went in at $24k last night but it sold today for $33,900.

      I love the color combo but when you add in $1650 to BaT, I got a quote from Reliable trucking for $1700, and the odometer issue as well as an apparently "wrong" black interior that should have been grey just too rich for my blood at the moment. The search continues!
      I hear you. It was all in jest, but I sure hope you get a 911 one day.
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      09-24-2020 02:03 PM #6487
      Quote Originally Posted by smstiles View Post
      There have been a few of them. Most recently a red '90 with super low miles. I keep bouncing back and forth between buying a nice NA or buying an ND. I had a '90 back in the day and it was a blast. Sold it to my parents and they loved it. Then we both had NBs. I went the FM2 route with mine and theirs is still stock'ish. I worry that I'd be frustrated with an NA and would throw a ton of money at it when at the end of the day an ND would do everything better. The issue with an ND is that I love to tinker. And 'round and 'round we go
      I hear ya. I've got zero experience, but the ND is arguably the better car. NOTHING is like an NA though. It's one of those few cars they got "right" on launch day. It will always be that car. It is slower than an ND and not as comfortable as the ND and on and on. But they are quite magical - you already know that. But a bone stock, low mileage time capsule NA is a pretty cool thing.
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      09-24-2020 02:05 PM #6488
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      A hopped up Crown Vic? It’s a bit on the nose, don’t you think?
      These things are f**king rad.
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      09-24-2020 10:32 PM #6489
      <Denis Leary>'Ludes man, ****IN' LUDES!</Denis Leary> I thought the Prelude only went through 2000, but BaT has a 2001 Honda Prelude manual with 67K miles; not the SH though:


      Quote Originally Posted by Broduski View Post
      TCL would suggest a Bi-Turbo to a single mother of 4 just for sh*t's and giggles.
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      Here we can all drive like Colin McRae in his prime, earn $25k a month and bang super models. We can also text and drive.
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      09-24-2020 11:09 PM #6490
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkEnergist View Post
      These things are f**king rad.
      Oh, yes they are. I’m just busting roman’s balls.
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      09-25-2020 12:49 AM #6491
      Quote Originally Posted by TJSwoboda View Post
      42K mile '84 Benz 500SEL:

      237 HP and 296 lb-ft of torque? Damn... My dad had an '84 380SE that I drove a good deal in the mid 90s, and that V8 was anemic AF, with something like 155 HP. Then again, the long wheelbase 500 also stickered for $52,310 in 1984 (over $130K today).
      That is a damn fine example right there. The selling dealer is a member on Benzworld and has a shop specialized in restoring these cars. All cars that he offers are high quality, regardless of the mileage. The engine output figures from the BaT auction are wrong however (they are for the Euro model), the US '84 500SEL/SEC should be rated at 184HP/247lbft.

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      09-25-2020 01:15 AM #6492
      Quote Originally Posted by GolfTango View Post
      He said it was an E36 M3.
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      I stand corrected. It’s been a good 5 years since I’ve listened to his show.

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      09-25-2020 06:11 AM #6493
      Quote Originally Posted by LT1M21Stingray View Post
      I hear you. It was all in jest, but I sure hope you get a 911 one day.
      Thanks man - it WILL happen.

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      09-25-2020 09:12 AM #6494
      A "B" with drum brakes? If my kids were out of the house and I wasn't paying for college you can bet your ass I'd bet on this. It needs me.

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      09-25-2020 09:53 AM #6495
      A T6 at that, but that car needs a LOT of work. I was lucky enough to get mine (SC) where the previous owner had a pro replace the bottom 4" or so of the whole chassis to fix the rust. I just need to get the door bottoms fixed or find some good ones...repaint it and we're set.

      That T6 B will need a lot, but in these times it's not crazy to get a project if you can DIY the rust repair...maybe take the opportunity to make it an outlaw or something cool.
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      09-25-2020 12:33 PM #6496
      Yeah that 356 is a good restoration candidate but it'll need a bare metal job which isn't cheap. Unless you can do the work yourself you would probably be better of buying a good driver. On the plus side slate gray with red is a very attractive color combo. Really curious where this ends up. I know the car on BaT is a '63 Normal but I have a pic of the latest Hagerty price chart for my '63 Super which I'll post below. As you can see values have dropped a bit as of late.




      On the drum brakes comment all B's had drum brakes, it was the C's that had four wheel discs. If you do end up with a drum brake car there is a bolt on disc brake kit for the front which works amazingly well minus the crappy pads. Interestingly I paid $800 for this kit 10 years ago and it appears to still be the same price http://www.allzim.com/store/356-part...nversion-kits/
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      09-25-2020 06:23 PM #6497
      Quote Originally Posted by KARMANN_20V View Post
      That is a damn fine example right there. The selling dealer is a member on Benzworld and has a shop specialized in restoring these cars. All cars that he offers are high quality, regardless of the mileage. The engine output figures from the BaT auction are wrong however (they are for the Euro model), the US '84 500SEL/SEC should be rated at 184HP/247lbft.
      Ah, thanks; those numbers seemed high.
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      09-25-2020 06:28 PM #6498
      A torque steer special just hit BaT: A 16K mile 2000 Saab 9-3 Viggen:




      Yes, that appears to be a cassette player.
      Quote Originally Posted by Broduski View Post
      TCL would suggest a Bi-Turbo to a single mother of 4 just for sh*t's and giggles.
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      09-25-2020 06:42 PM #6499


      This is back on the auction block after 3 years, $15k worth of upkeep, and a new dent in the back corner. Still love it.

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