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      03-13-2019 12:39 PM #2151
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      Notchback 80's awesomeness!!!

      I used to have an 87 notchback GT-S, red on black. I loved that car, so fun to drive, so fun to get loose in the rain. Mine was my daily driver through my university years so unfortunately it started with a bit of rust and ended with a lot of rust. I get the appeal of getting back into the car of your youth, but it's crazy for me to think that this thing could end up selling for nearly what I paid for my minty 2012 Cayman.
      That last AE86 went for $20k and that car didn't present as well as this one does. Will be interesting to see where it ends up. Should be well over $15k.

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      03-13-2019 12:55 PM #2152
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      03-13-2019 03:53 PM #2153
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      I think the BaT tax is real,
      I think the ''BaT tax'' is simply what buyers are willing to pay for the extra service they get from BaT. You aren't getting a hi-res photo gallery with 200+ pictures on Craigslist. You don't have a bunch of of experts (and sometimes not) chiming in the comment section on eBay pointing out certain things that need to be highlighted or to watch out for. You don't have a system that holds non-paying bidders accountable if they run after win an auction on eBay either.

      All this adds value to a transactions, and people will pay for that. Especially when dealing with cars that aren't going to be daily drivers.

      You want a cheap car, go to Craigslist and or a used car lot that that gets their stuff from auctions. You want a new car, go to a dealer and play those games. You want a niche car, from an owner who has taken care of it and has all the info you need, BaT is your answer.
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      03-13-2019 09:01 PM #2154
      Low mileage '86 560SEC... But the instruments are in metric.

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      03-13-2019 09:09 PM #2155
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      I think the BaT tax is real
      Obviously it is real otherwise car dealers wouldn't be flipping cars on BAT.

      Half of the car on there were previously on a classify somewhere. You can always do a VIN search in google before you bid. Granted most dealers also put in some effort to service/update the car but you are sometimes paying $5k more for a set of new tires and oil change.

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      03-13-2019 09:24 PM #2156
      Quote Originally Posted by Harv View Post
      I think the ''BaT tax'' is simply what buyers are willing to pay for the extra service they get from BaT. You aren't getting a hi-res photo gallery with 200+ pictures on Craigslist. You don't have a bunch of of experts (and sometimes not) chiming in the comment section on eBay pointing out certain things that need to be highlighted or to watch out for. You don't have a system that holds non-paying bidders accountable if they run after win an auction on eBay either.

      All this adds value to a transactions, and people will pay for that. Especially when dealing with cars that aren't going to be daily drivers.

      You want a cheap car, go to Craigslist and or a used car lot that that gets their stuff from auctions. You want a new car, go to a dealer and play those games. You want a niche car, from an owner who has taken care of it and has all the info you need, BaT is your answer.
      My point was though, you are not necessarily getting what you think you are paying a premium for. That car I referenced in my post was at most at $10k car, with significant swirls, curb rashes, tires almost to the wear bars, and other small things that really do not show well in any of the photos on the site. I know that because I saw the car in person. Now, I will concede that this car had photo quality (not quantity) that was below average for a typical BaT listing, if I was the buyer, paying essentially $4k over market plus shipping plus BaT fee, I would be extremely disappointed when the shipping truck pulled into my driveway.
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      03-13-2019 10:26 PM #2157
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      My point was though, you are not necessarily getting what you think you are paying a premium for. That car I referenced in my post was at most at $10k car, with significant swirls, curb rashes, tires almost to the wear bars, and other small things that really do not show well in any of the photos on the site. I know that because I saw the car in person. Now, I will concede that this car had photo quality (not quantity) that was below average for a typical BaT listing, if I was the buyer, paying essentially $4k over market plus shipping plus BaT fee, I would be extremely disappointed when the shipping truck pulled into my driveway.
      The buyers remorse would be strong with that one.
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      03-13-2019 11:33 PM #2158
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      My point was though, you are not necessarily getting what you think you are paying a premium for. That car I referenced in my post was at most at $10k car, with significant swirls, curb rashes, tires almost to the wear bars, and other small things that really do not show well in any of the photos on the site. I know that because I saw the car in person. Now, I will concede that this car had photo quality (not quantity) that was below average for a typical BaT listing, if I was the buyer, paying essentially $4k over market plus shipping plus BaT fee, I would be extremely disappointed when the shipping truck pulled into my driveway.
      No different than buying a car sight unseen, anywhere.

      There's always going to be surprised, generally of the unpleasant kind.
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      03-13-2019 11:52 PM #2160
      Quote Originally Posted by DonPatrizio View Post
      That's an Icon build, it's like Singer for old SUVs.
      I'm well aware of what it is I just don't see it myself. It is well done but mostly a collection of components that could be put together for less than the near quarter million dollar current bid. I'm not sure I would put Icon at the same lever as a Singer, close but not quite. Interesting to watch either way.

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      03-14-2019 08:51 AM #2161
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      Is it just me or is that door a different color than the rear quarter panel?

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      03-14-2019 09:07 AM #2162
      Quote Originally Posted by Stromaluski View Post
      Is it just me or is that door a different color than the rear quarter panel?
      Same color. Different shade perhaps. Or perhaps it's just the lighting conditions. Pictures never tell the whole truth. This is why people with high expectations don't buy a car unseen and instead get a professional PPI or get a paint depth meter and measure every panel on the subject car and peers so one has a better idea which panels have original finish and which ones don't.

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      03-14-2019 09:31 AM #2163
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      My point was though, you are not necessarily getting what you think you are paying a premium for. That car I referenced in my post was at most at $10k car, with significant swirls, curb rashes, tires almost to the wear bars, and other small things that really do not show well in any of the photos on the site. I know that because I saw the car in person. Now, I will concede that this car had photo quality (not quantity) that was below average for a typical BaT listing, if I was the buyer, paying essentially $4k over market plus shipping plus BaT fee, I would be extremely disappointed when the shipping truck pulled into my driveway.

      Did you make a comment on your experience with the car?

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      03-14-2019 09:32 AM #2164
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      Low mileage '86 560SEC... But the instruments are in metric.
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      03-14-2019 09:35 AM #2165
      Quote Originally Posted by Stromaluski View Post
      Is it just me or is that door a different color than the rear quarter panel?
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Same color. Different shade perhaps. Or perhaps it's just the lighting conditions. Pictures never tell the whole truth. This is why people with high expectations don't buy a car unseen and instead get a professional PPI or get a paint depth meter and measure every panel on the subject car and peers so one has a better idea which panels have original finish and which ones don't.
      Auction says this:

      The exterior is finished in Diamond Blue Metallic (932) with matching lower trim, and paintwork is reported to have been performed to the driver’s-side door and quarter panel.

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      03-14-2019 10:07 AM #2166
      Quote Originally Posted by Sonderwunsch View Post
      I'm well aware of what it is I just don't see it myself. It is well done but mostly a collection of components that could be put together for less than the near quarter million dollar current bid. I'm not sure I would put Icon at the same lever as a Singer, close but not quite. Interesting to watch either way.
      Without receipts it's hard to truly know what any Icon or Singer truly costs to build. A few years ago an article estimated something like $150,000-$195,000 for the Icon build plus $7,500-$15,000 for the vintage Bronco upon which the build was based. But I'm sure the sky is the limit and given inflation the costs of labor and materials rarely ever goes down. I know cost doesn't equal value. But if market demand for these things is strong, if supply is extremely limited and if Icon has a 2-3 year waiting list for new ones then prospective buyers might be willing to pay a premium to enjoy something that's close enough to their ultimate Bronco right now. $200k-$250k for a SEMA worthy custom built Bronco doesn't seem that extravagant or out of line. Not to mention the write-off for the charitable gift.

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      03-14-2019 10:53 AM #2167
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Without receipts it's hard to truly know what any Icon or Singer truly costs to build. A few years ago an article estimated something like $150,000-$195,000 for the Icon build plus $7,500-$15,000 for the vintage Bronco upon which the build was based. But I'm sure the sky is the limit and given inflation the costs of labor and materials rarely ever goes down. I know cost doesn't equal value. But if market demand for these things is strong, if supply is extremely limited and if Icon has a 2-3 year waiting list for new ones then prospective buyers might be willing to pay a premium to enjoy something that's close enough to their ultimate Bronco right now. $200k-$250k for a SEMA worthy custom built Bronco doesn't seem that extravagant or out of line. Not to mention the write-off for the charitable gift.
      It certainly adds up quick. I think if I was willing to spend that much on one I'd prefer it to look a little more like this one, it was built Cal Auto Creations and sold at Barrett Jackson in January for $148,500.





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      03-14-2019 09:07 PM #2168
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      Six digit Mustang?
      Yes, it's up to $90k with plenty of time left. The 2 Grand National sales from 2 weeks ago will probably have some influence on the outcome of this Mustang
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      03-14-2019 10:44 PM #2169
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      I always loved how Ford put the distributer at the from of the motor.

      I hated doing plugs and wires on GM's back many moons ago because of the placement.
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    21. 03-15-2019 01:52 PM #2170
      Cool to see an S600, even if it is halfway around the world.

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      03-15-2019 02:56 PM #2171
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Same color. Different shade perhaps. Or perhaps it's just the lighting conditions. Pictures never tell the whole truth. This is why people with high expectations don't buy a car unseen and instead get a professional PPI or get a paint depth meter and measure every panel on the subject car and peers so one has a better idea which panels have original finish and which ones don't.
      The whole driver side is FUBAR. From the front signal light all the way to the rust bubble in the bondo behind the rear tire.
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      03-15-2019 06:11 PM #2172
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      I always loved how Ford put the distributer at the from of the motor.

      I hated doing plugs and wires on GM's back many moons ago because of the placement.
      Cry me a river...

      At least GM had an access door on the distributor cap to adjust the dwell.

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      03-18-2019 10:40 AM #2173
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      I bet this will go for some big $$$, it's already at $50k and it just started.

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      03-18-2019 10:53 AM #2174
      2004 Volkswagen R32

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      This 2004 Volkswagen R32 is equipped with a 3.2-liter VR6 which sends power to all four wheels through a 6-speed manual transaxle and Haldex all-wheel drive system. The car is one of 5,000 examples built for the US market, and is finished in Reflex Silver over 18″ OZ Racing wheels and a black leather interior. Modifications include a black grille and side trim, tinted windows and tail lamps, and red-painted brake calipers on aftermarket rotors. This R32 shows 129k miles after four years with the selling dealer in Oregon, and is offered with an accident-free Carfax report as well as a clean Washington State title.

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      03-18-2019 11:35 AM #2175
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      $90k with 1 day left.


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