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    1. Member jhonyquest97's Avatar
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      07-24-2017 11:03 AM #1
      There’s a lot of confusion out there when looking for info on a 4 to 5 speed O2O trans swap. With photo bucket crapping the bed there's also a lot of missing picture links out there. Hopefully this will help explain somethings and tell you exactly what is needed.

      5 speed trans with proper gear ratios
      5 Speed Selector lever
      5 Speed Selector Ball
      5 Speed Bar linkage (Black Endcaps)



      1 - Start with the trans..
      It should NOT have a wishbone mount popping out from the rear section. Later O2O’s had this with the Mk2 platform. You need to remove it and replace it with PN 171711586A .

      To install this part on a trans that had the mk2 wishbone mount, remove the mount from the trans by taking out the 3 bolts. Then remove the short bolt on the right side of the trans near the top. Use that same bolt to attach the new selector.

      There’s a similar one from the 4 speed but it looks a mm or 2 shorter on the longer lever side as seen in the 3rd pic below.








      2 – The Large ball end selector




      3 – Longer 5 Spd Selector Lever



      4 – 5 Spd Bar linkage





      Some thing’s worth noting…

      Yes. You can use the rest of the linkage from your 4 spd; like from the shift knob all the way up to the ball end under the firewall.

      The distance the lock our needs to be from the lever box under the car is 20mm iirc. Tape a 20mm allen key to the box and use it to get yourself near where it should be.

      After completing the swap, if 1st is a bit sticky to get to cheat. The bent bar with the black end caps. Put it in a vise and squish it a bit to straighten it out.

      Rebuild the 5 spd trans while it’s out. Don’t just trust it good like I did and have a mess to deal with. Us ARP bolts so self machining won’t ever be an issue.


      ***Edit:
      I also have some easy ways to align the shift lever. Set the trans in first gear (second might be easier but I use 1st). Now just push the bottom of the lever against the lockout and slide the other end of the rod into the clip at the front of the vehicle by the firewall. Make sure the bottom of the shift lever stays pressed against the lock out. If you're having issues afterwards it's as simple as loosening the shaft clip and slightly spinning the rod further away from the lockout. I like to mark the shift rod end in relation to the clip so it's easy to tell how far I've spun it. Hope this helps.
      Last edited by jhonyquest97; 10-02-2017 at 11:05 PM.
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      07-29-2017 11:51 AM #2
      Nice right up


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      08-30-2017 04:11 PM #3
      Very nice! Thank you.

      Does the 4 speed equivalent to 171711586A have a PN stamped on it? If so could you share it please?

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      10-02-2017 02:36 PM #4
      Unfortunately I don't see one. I cleaned it up and blasted it and still nothing. Here's some other shots of it. Maybe someone can spot a distinguishing characteristic. I have the 5 speed one in the vehicle so without that I can't tell the difference


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      10-02-2017 11:07 PM #5
      Added some tips to align the shifter
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    8. 02-09-2018 07:02 PM #6
      good info. thanks

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      02-13-2018 07:13 AM #7
      Thank you for writing this up. Very helpful.

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      02-13-2018 11:00 PM #8
      I'm sure there's still info to be had but not a problems guys. Anything helps right.
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      12-09-2018 10:19 PM #9
      Thank goodness this thread exists... now to find a good 5 speed tranny!
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      05-06-2019 05:56 PM #11
      For part number 171-711-586A, the relay lever, can those be rebuilt? Mine is incredibly sloppy, and I can't find the part anywhere. If they can, what parts would I need to rebuild it?

      If not, does anyone else have a source for these?

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      05-08-2019 07:30 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by iLag View Post
      For part number 171-711-586A, the relay lever, can those be rebuilt? Mine is incredibly sloppy, and I can't find the part anywhere. If they can, what parts would I need to rebuild it?

      If not, does anyone else have a source for these?
      http://www.cabby-info.com/Files/Shif...ide_5speed.pdf

      171711166

      https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/171...20Group%20%233

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