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      09-25-2017 06:56 PM #1
      Not that I'm really excited about this story, since HP is what the ZR1 is usually all about and I don't see any numbers here http://www.motortrend.com/news/spied...16#sf116557616 I understand that slushboxes are much quicker now than the old 3 on a trees, and they're quicker than manuals too, nonetheless I still prefer the ZR1 with a stick, just like anything else, Prius included I guess the whole idea of the next generation Vette coming out with a midengine is still more exciting anyhow. I'm still in disbelief about it for the time being.

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    3. 09-25-2017 07:37 PM #2
      10-speed? And a slushbox, to boot. Double-clutch gearboxes I get, and at least they behave like a clutchless manual transmission and feel better. It's a shame slushboxes are shoving even DSG/DCT/PDK gearboxes out, but I guess it's only because they're so good. Progress.

      In this case, though, I suspect it was cheaper for Chevy to split the cost of a new torque converter automatic than developing a double-clutch that would handle the power. Disappointing, but not unexpected, I guess.
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      09-25-2017 07:42 PM #4
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      09-25-2017 08:51 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by HoyaZot View Post
      10-speed? And a slushbox, to boot. Double-clutch gearboxes I get, and at least they behave like a clutchless manual transmission and feel better. It's a shame slushboxes are shoving even DSG/DCT/PDK gearboxes out, but I guess it's only because they're so good. Progress.

      In this case, though, I suspect it was cheaper for Chevy to split the cost of a new torque converter automatic than developing a double-clutch that would handle the power. Disappointing, but not unexpected, I guess.
      Uhh, the GM 10 speed is pretty dang good. It does lock-to-lock shifts (torque converter remains locked) and the shifts are ~30% faster than Porsche's PDK. This thing looks like a hoot to drive:

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      09-26-2017 03:37 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by BUJonathan View Post
      Uhh, the GM 10 speed is pretty dang good. It does lock-to-lock shifts (torque converter remains locked) and the shifts are ~30% faster than Porsche's PDK.
      That's pretty damn impressive. I find myself less and less inclined to scream "manuel or death!!" when autos are now faster and more fuel efficient than manuals. Slogging in traffic with a stick blows even in a miata with the top down. Dare I say, my NC would be made better with a good double-clutch and flappy paddles... (this is where I run and hide somewhere)

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      09-26-2017 05:01 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by BUJonathan View Post
      Uhh, the GM 10 speed is pretty dang good. It does lock-to-lock shifts (torque converter remains locked) and the shifts are ~30% faster than Porsche's PDK. This thing looks like a hoot to drive:
      Didn't know this. That's actually really cool.

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      09-26-2017 10:13 AM #8
      z06 already has cooling issues ... more power?
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      Sounds great. Maybe I'm just a fascist and didn't know it.. I don't know if I even care anymore.

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      09-26-2017 10:24 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Carson Fiber View Post
      I understand that slushboxes are much quicker now than the old 3 on a trees, and they're quicker than manuals too
      Just wanted to say that a 3 on a tree is a manual transmission.
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      09-26-2017 04:15 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by HoyaZot View Post
      10-speed? And a slushbox, to boot. Double-clutch gearboxes I get, and at least they behave like a clutchless manual transmission and feel better. It's a shame slushboxes are shoving even DSG/DCT/PDK gearboxes out, but I guess it's only because they're so good. Progress.

      In this case, though, I suspect it was cheaper for Chevy to split the cost of a new torque converter automatic than developing a double-clutch that would handle the power. Disappointing, but not unexpected, I guess.
      They will probably use this one for the next generation.

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      09-27-2017 01:52 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by NoXenons View Post
      They will probably use this one for the next generation.

      http://www.tremec.com/anexos/Literat...ansmission.pdf
      A 7spd DCT is planned so good chance it is that one.
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      09-27-2017 04:04 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by CaleDeRoo View Post
      A 7spd DCT is planned so good chance it is that one.
      Honest question, if they can make a 10-spd torque converter'd auto that shifts 30% faster than the PDK, why go the DCT route? Seems it's lost its advantages at that point.

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      09-27-2017 05:23 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by strapontin View Post
      Honest question, if they can make a 10-spd torque converter'd auto that shifts 30% faster than the PDK, why go the DCT route? Seems it's lost its advantages at that point.
      Could be packaging for the MR layout, and the fast that most people who are buying this type of car want a DCT over TC auto just for the ability to say it has a DCT.
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    15. 09-27-2017 10:18 AM #14
      I love how gm puts out turds with poor interiors with pretty damn amazing technology

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      09-27-2017 10:33 AM #15
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      I love how gm puts out turds with poor interiors with pretty damn amazing technology
      I love how people are still stuck in 2009.
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      09-27-2017 10:41 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      I love how people are still stuck in 2009.
      Maybe if you mean 1979-2009. GM produced garbage for several decades. 8 years of progress is good, but not good enough to erase what occurred.
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      09-27-2017 11:00 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by GLI Dan View Post
      Maybe if you mean 1979-2009. GM produced garbage for several decades. 8 years of progress is good, but not good enough to erase what occurred.
      I'm still waiting for any car magazine to choose a Cadillac interior over a Benz or maybe Audi. I just don't see any of them raving about them. I'm just talking about materials and fit and finish, not how miserable CUE is.

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