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      10-02-2017 12:40 PM #1
      Just thought I'd get this thread started so I can annoy TCL over the next 3 years until debut.

      Quote Originally Posted by mercpassion
      The first test mule for Mercedes-Benz’s next-generation S-Class has been spotted. Test mules represent the first stage of real-world testing for new cars. It’s basically the new mechanical package hidden beneath the makeshift body of an existing car, typically the one the new car is about to replace.

      Test mules provide clues on the size and hardpoints of the new car being developed. In the case of the next S-Class, which we’re expecting to arrive in 2020, as a 2021 model, we can see that the general size and proportions will match the current model but there will be a slightly wider track, as evidenced by the wheel arch extensions.



      The current Mercedes-Benz S-Class, the W222, was introduced for 2014 and immediately rocketed to the top of the sales chart. The 6-figure sedan racked up more than 100,000 sales in its first year and that was before the arrival of additional body styles such as the 2-door cars and extra-long Maybach and Pullman.

      It’s clear the next S-Class has some big shoes to fill. Luckily for it, it will adopt a new platform, in this case Mercedes’ MRA design for rear-wheel-drive cars. The current S-Class rides on an updated version of its predecessor’s architecture.

      It’s hard to gauge what Mercedes has in store for its next S-Class this early out. The current model just received its mid-cycle update so understandably Mercedes is shy to talk about the next one. We already know a few things, however. Every powertrain will be electrified, either with mild-hybrid, plug-in hybrid or pure electric technology. It’s not clear if there will be a fuel cell option but Mercedes has demonstrated that it has the technology ready.



      There will also be much more advanced self-driving systems, including perhaps a Level 3 system. This is where the car can handle its own in certain situations, leaving the driver free to do other things. Should the driver need to take back control, the car will give warnings well in advance. Audi has already introduced such a system in its latest A8, though its availability will be limited due to a lack of regulations.

      We’re expecting Mercedes to offer the next S-Class in multiple body lengths, from a short wheelbase right up to the extra-long Pullman. However, there’s a good chance the S-Class Coupe and Cabriolet are no longer be offered. Don’t be surprised if the void is filled with a Maybach offering.

      We should see the first prototypes wearing the actual body of the new S-Class in 2018 or early 2019. Stay tuned for updates as development continues.



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      10-02-2017 12:41 PM #2
      Construction on the new S-class plant should be completed by 2019.



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      10-02-2017 12:45 PM #3
      Ah, I forgot to post these last week! Thanks.

      I'm obviously extremely excited for this car. Also, that mule looks awesome. S-class All-Terrain, anyone?
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    5. 02-06-2018 11:19 AM #4
      This is our first look at the S-Class wearing production sheet metal.
      Even though the S-Class range was revised only recently, an all-new version of the sporty sedan is already on the way. Scheduled to make its debut sometime by the end of the decade, the S-Class will be all new both inside and out. While previous images have shown the vehicle wearing a faux last-gen body, these new images picture the sedan wearing production sheet metal… well covered up in camouflage, of course.

      The new photos give us our first look yet at the S-Class wearing its production skin. It’s hard to make out any distinguishing new features under all that camo, but there are a few key details that hint as to the look up the upcoming new S-Class.

      The front fascia of the updated Benz will be significantly restyled. Revisions to the grille, the air intakes, and the bumper will all be seen. We expect the front of the S-Class to adopt similar styling to the new CLS, but with a more upscale theme all its own. The back will be all new too, with a reshaped diffuser, an updated bumper, and all-new taillights of course.

      The most significant update will come in the body, which will see an extensive use of lightweight materials. The new S-Class will be lighter than the current model thanks to aluminum combined with carbon fiber reinforced plastics (CFRP). More than three years ago Mercedes-Benz S-Class Chief Engineer, Hermann-Joseph Storp, announced that the W223 S-Class would be "even greener" thanks to its new lightweight construction.

      Apart from the details already mentioned, we don’t know much else about the upcoming new S-Class. Rumors suggest that we could see the "SEC" moniker make its way back into the range in the form of a four-door coupe, but we won’t know all the details until the S-Class makes its debut in full, likely sometime in 2020.
      https://www.motor1.com/news/229620/n...s-class-spied/









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      02-06-2018 11:27 AM #5
      To preemptively answer people's questions, no this will not have the CLS and A-class headlights. None of the traditional models will.
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    7. 02-15-2018 10:33 PM #6
      Luxury saloon is still two years off, but incremental changes in the car's self-driving technology, drivetrains and interior tech are all expected

      Mercedes-Benz has begun on-road testing for its all-new S-Class, due in 2020, with production bodywork. It's expected that the model will get level 3 autonomy on par with the Audi A8, and is likely to make its debut at the Frankfurt motor show.

      Benchmark testing alongside one of its closest rivals - a BMW 7 Series - the next S-Class is expected to make advances in every area for its next generation, although the biggest change will be in styling. Through the camouflage, the car's production bodywork can be seen, and the car appears to feature a development of the A-Class and CLS's 'predator' front-end styling.

      A mule dressed in the modified body of the recently facelifted S-Class was previously spotted running with wide-arch extensions, likely as part of early chassis development. Its enlarged tracks confirmed that the next S-Class, which is expected to arrive in 2020, will be larger and therefore more spacious inside. It's likely to benefit from the MBUX infotainment system first installed on the recently revealed A-Class, alongside a host of other technological updates.

      The future flagship saloon will also be vastly more autonomous-capable, advancing the current car’s so-called Distronic Active Proximity Control and Active Steer Assist systems. The current car can achieve Level 2 autonomy but is expected to eventually be upgraded again with Drive Pilot capabilities, which links to GPS satellites and is featured on the new E-Class. The new 2020 model is therefore expected to introduce near-fully autonomous capabilities.

      Mercedes driver assistance systems boss Christoph von Hugo told Autocar earlier this year that 2020 would see some Mercedes cars be able to handle “critical situations”, such as urban streets and junctions. The S-Class’s role as the brand’s most luxurious model leaves it as the top candidate to get this tech first.

      The next S-Class will also increase its use of electrification, boosting the performance and range offered with the current top hybrid S-Class, the S 560e. That car combines a turbocharged V6 engine and electric motor, offering up to 31 miles of electric range, which is vital to ensuring the car can be driven in cities that may soon enforce zero emissions.

      Trends suggest an all-electric version of the S-Class is inevitable at some stage, although sources do not think battery technology will be at an advanced enough state to make it viable at the next S-Class’s 2020 launch. Autocar understands that the room required for batteries presents a major challenge for an electric vehicle (EV) variant, with Mercedes not wanting to hamper cabin space and luxury as a result. It's highly plausible that the next-gen car will feature an EV variant later in its production life, however.

      The S-Class is a pivotal car in Mercedes' lineup, regularly being the first model to introduce new technologies which then trickle down to the rest of the range. In 2017, the Maybach variant alone sold 25,000 units, with two thirds of these going to China. The brand was the biggest-selling premium brand across 2017, beating BMW and Audi to the title, thanks to 2,289,344 sales across the year. Mercedes' 7.04% market share in the UK also bested those of Audi and BMW, which achieved 6.88 and 6.77% respectively across the year.
      https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ork-first-time








    8. 02-16-2018 01:48 AM #7
      This guy should be elated


    9. 02-20-2018 11:44 AM #8
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      Mercedes-Benz Cars: World premier of the "Factory 56" – the most modern car production in the world
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      "Digital, flexible, green” - latest production technologies are integrated at "Factory 56". Main focus is on the people.
      "Our ‘Factory 56’ will define a new way of building cars. With its ‘Factory 56’, Mercedes-Benz Cars is creating the car plant of the future. It combines three trend-setting features: It is consistently digital and flexible - and it brings the term ‘ green production’ to life. As the inventor of the car, we are reinventing production," says Markus Schäfer, Member of the Divisional Board of Mercedes-Benz Cars, Production and Supply Chain.
      The foundation stone for the "Werk 56" production hall in the Mercedes-Benz plant in Sindelfingen is laid by high-ranking representatives from politics and business.
      Sindelfingen - Mercedes-Benz Cars presents its "Factory 56", the world's most modern car production. "Our ‘Factory 56’ will define a new way of building cars. With its ‘Factory 56’, Mercedes-Benz Cars is creating the car plant of the future. It combines three trend-setting features: It is consistently digital and flexible - and it brings the term ‘green production’ to life. As the inventor of the car, we are reinventing production," says Markus Schäfer, Member of the Divisional Board of Mercedes-Benz Cars, Production and Supply Chain.

      To mark the laying of the cornerstone for the new assembly hall on 20th of February, high-ranking representatives from the worlds of politics and business came together at the Mercedes-Benz plant in Sindelfingen. Alongside Markus Schäfer, Dr. Nicole Hoffmeister-Kraut, Minister of Economics, Work and Housing Construction of Baden-Württemberg, Dr. Bernd Vöhringer, Lord Mayor of the City of Sindelfingen, Michael Bauer, Site Manager of the Mercedes-Benz Sindelfingen plant and Head of Production, as well as Ergun Lümali, Chairman of the Mercedes-Benz Sindelfingen Works Council, also took part in the celebrations.

      Dr. Nicole Hoffmeister-Kraut emphasized that the laying of the cornerstone is also an essential element for a good future of Baden-Württemberg as an automotive location: "The ‘Factory 56’ will bring together two global megatrends that are of crucial importance for our country in particular: the digitalization of production and vehicle models of the future." Baden-Württemberg will only be able to defend its reputation as a premium location for industry in the long term and secure the country's prosperity if the manufacturers provide the right answers in both fields, production and mobility of the future, she said. The task of the state would be to support this path by supporting innovation.

      In 2020, the "Factory 56" will already start production of upper- and luxury-class cars and electric vehicles at the Mercedes-Benz Sindelfingen plant. Passenger cars, electric vehicles of the upper and luxury class and robo-taxis will be produced. These include the new generation of the S-Class as well as the first electric vehicle of the product and technology brand EQ "made in Sindelfingen". For the construction site 700,000m3 earth was moved. The area is 220,000 m2. This corresponds to about 30 football pitches. Approximately 6,400 tons of steel are used for the steel construction – almost as much as for the Parisian Eiffel Tower.

      "Factory 56" – latest production technologies in series

      The production concept of the "Factory 56" is setting new standards. This includes man-machine-cooperations and digitally supported processes including work organization as well as logistics and quality assurance. The plant is not only digitised consistently according to Industry 4.0, it is also connected to other productions in the global production network.

      The 360 degree linkage along the whole value chain is an essential feature – from the suppliers, through to the development department, design and our production and to our customers. In the future, for example, the finished vehicles shall drive off the line automated to the loading station. Under "Digital Anticipation" in the Mercedes me App and online, customers purchasing new vehicles can already today gain exclusive insights into the production of their vehicles and thus have a much more enjoyable wait for delivery.

      In the assembly hall itself state-of-the-art Industry 4.0 technologies are used. Driverless transport systems (DTS) with product baskets support logistics in the assembly and ensure the seamless supply of the required materials for the employees at the line. Innovative Radio Frequency Identification-technologies (RFID) are integrated into the "Factory 56". Components and vehicles can thus be digitally tracked and linked with one another.

      Artificial Intelligence, Big Data analyses and Predictive Maintenance guarantee high transparency and support in production planning, control and also in quality assurance. Through the analysis of existing production data, for instance, predictions on potential faults or due maintenance work can be made in advance.

      The human at the centre

      The human is at the centre of all activities in the "Factory 56". The employees work at ergonomically optimised workstations and are optimally supported in their tasks by digital tools. The focus is on the use of intelligent, flexible technology. A new work organisation provides for flexible and modern working time models. The break areas are designed according to the latest standards – for example with a pantry, couch and info screen.

      "Factory 56" is sustainable and energy-efficient

      Modular building structures are characteristic for the "Factory 56", with a design that is both energy-efficient and green, so environmentally friendly. The assembly uses renewable energies and reduces CO2 production, water consumption and waste significantly.

      On the roof of "Factory 56" there is a photovoltaic system which feeds green electricity into the productions supply. This leads to a reduction of yearly 5,000 MWh of electricity. An electric vehicle of the product and technology brand EQ, for example the electric SUV EQC, could be charged 72,000 times a year with this. That corresponds to around 36 million kilometres mileage a year. CO2 emissions at the “Factory 56" will be reduced by 75 percent compared to today's S-Class production in Sindelfingen.

      The construction of the assembly hall is very translucent. The Blue Sky architecture supports a pleasant working climate for the employees in daylight. In addition, the temperature of the hall can be set at up to seven degrees below the outside temperature.

      About Mercedes-Benz Cars Operations

      Mercedes-Benz Cars Operations is responsible for passenger car production at over 30 locations around the world. Three of them are currently being established. Within a flexible and efficient production network with around 78,000 employees it includes the central functions of production planning, TECFACTORY, logistics, and quality. Mercedes-Benz Cars produced more than 2.4 million Mercedes-Benz and smart passenger cars last year, marking the seventh record in a row. The network is based on the product architectures of front-wheel drive (compact cars) and rear-wheel drive (for example the S-Class, E-Class, and C-Class) as well as the SUV and sports car architectures. In addition, there is a powertrain production compound (engines, transmissions, axles and components). Each of these production compounds is grouped around a lead plant that serves as a center of competence for the ramp-up of new products, technology and quality assurance. Mercedes-Benz Cars is ready for the electro mobility: Around the globe electro hubs are built for the production of electric vehicles and batteries. The focus of day-to-day work is on the continuous improvement and refinement of state-of-the-art production methods, which allow future high-tech vehicles to be produced in a way that is efficient, flexible and environmentally friendly, according to the typical Mercedes-Benz quality standards. All of this revolves around the employees and their expertise, whose work is systematically supported by ergonomic workplace design and intelligent automation. In addition to its own production plants, Mercedes-Benz is increasingly leveraging partnerships and utilizing capacities at contract manufacturers as part of its growth strategy.




      https://www.motor1.com/news/233593/m...king-ceremony/

    10. 05-04-2018 10:24 AM #9
      Expansive digital screens with touchpad controls are part of the company's plan for the cabin.

      All of the details so far suggest that the next-gen Mercedes-Benz S-Class will be a technological tour-de-force with possible features like cutting-edge adaptive headlights and extensive use of carbon fiber reinforced plastic to lower the big sedan's weight. New information suggests that the vehicle's cabin could feature a bevy of high-tech touches, too.



      In terms of the general layout, look at the Mercedes-Maybach Ultimate Luxury Concept as a suggestion of what to expect, according to Hartmut Sinkwitz to Car and Driver. The ultra-luxury SUV features pair of wide glass panels (see above), but it's more of a unified solution than current systems because the screens feature the same background. According to Sinkwitz, a similar design appears on the next-gen GLE-Class, too. Mercedes also intends to expand the use of the touchpad control interface from models like the latest A- and E-Class.

      "Look for greater uses of both direct and indirect lighting. Look for ambient lighting to expand its presence in the cabin," Sinkwitz told Car and Driver.

      The new S-Class will reportedly arrive in 2020. Spy shots still only show heavily camouflaged versions, which makes it difficult to draw any conclusions about the final design. A video shows a test mule with Mercedes' Digital Light headlights that each feature over a million micromirrors that can precisely adjust the brightness to avoid dazzling oncoming vehicles or pedestrians. They can even project the image of upcoming road signs onto the street as a way to give owners an extra reminder. This advanced tech could be an option in some markets, but regulations in the U.S. might not allow the system there.
      https://www.motor1.com/news/241076/m...erior-details/

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    12. 06-30-2018 02:29 AM #11
      Hopefully it wont have the same bland new cls tailights

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      07-02-2018 01:57 PM #12
      If they increase the width and trunk space to better compete with the Bentley Conti and RR Ghost, then their Maybach versions should be eligible to compete in that class. The tech, price and material quality is almost there already vis-a-vis the competition. Why they'd benchmark the current 7 though, is a mystery.

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      07-03-2018 03:02 PM #14
      Different sausage, same length.

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    17. 07-06-2018 11:01 AM #16
      Luxury saloon is still almost two years off, but incremental changes in self-driving technology, drivetrains and interior tech are all expected

      Mercedes-Benz is working on Level 3 autonomous technology to be fitted to the next S-Class that will enable it to handle complicated road scenarios without human input.

      The Audi A8 and BMW 7 Series rival, set for reveal at the Frankfurt motor show before arriving in showrooms in 2020, will evolve Mercedes' Distronic Active Proximity Control and Active Steer Assist systems to achieve its most advanced autonomous mode yet.

      The current S-Class can achieve Level 2 autonomy but is expected to eventually be upgraded again with Drive Pilot capabilities, which link to GPS satellites and are featured on the new E-Class. The new 2020 model is therefore expected to introduce near-fully autonomous capabilities.

      Mercedes driver assistance systems boss Christoph von Hugo told Autocar earlier this year that 2020 would see some Mercedes cars able to handle “critical situations”, such as urban streets and junctions. The S-Class’s role as the brand’s most luxurious model makes it the top candidate to get this tech first.

      The upcoming S-Class will benefit from the new MBUX infotainment system first installed on the latest A-Class, alongside a host of other technological updates to give the car a digitalised cabin able to fight against similarly advanced systems from Audi and BMW.

      Voice control technology will enable commands to be spoken in conversational form rather than via pre-determined phrases. The car will also feature gesture control to enable contactless adjustments to ancillary operations.

      The next S-Class will also increase its use of electrification, boosting the performance and range offered with the current top hybrid model, the S560e. That car combines a turbocharged V6 engine and electric motor to offer up to 31 miles of electric range that is vital to ensuring the car can be driven in cities that may soon enforce zero emissions.

      Trends suggest an all-electric version of the S-Class is inevitable at some stage, although sources do not think battery technology will be at an advanced enough stage to make it viable at the 2020 launch. Autocar understands that the space required for batteries presents a major challenge for an electric vehicle (EV) variant, with Mercedes not wanting to hamper cabin space and luxury as a result. It's highly plausible that the next-gen car will feature an EV variant later in its production life, however.

      There will also be some design changes, although the recently spotted camouflaged car hides the details at this stage. However, an earlier mule, spotted last year, was based on the current S-Class and featured obviously enlarged wheel arches to hide wider tracks, suggesting the next model will be larger and therefore more spacious inside.

      The S-Class is a pivotal car in Mercedes' line-up, being regularly the first model to introduce new technologies that then trickle down to the rest of the range. In 2017, the Maybach variant alone sold 25,000 units, with two-thirds of these going to China. Mercedes was the biggest-selling premium brand in 2017, beating BMW and Audi to the title, thanks to 2,289,344 sales during the year. Mercedes' 7.04% market share in the UK also bettered those of Audi and BMW, which reached 6.88 and 6.77% respectively last year.
      https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...riverless-tech

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    19. 01-07-2019 02:31 PM #18
      The upcoming W223 might exclusively come in long wheelbase, thanks to the E-Class.
      Mercedes-Benz has already confirmed the arrival of the new S-Class, which is good news, considering how the brand's SUVs are slowly becoming the money makers for the German marque. After all, it is the S-Class, the ultimate Mercedes sedan.

      We have yet to get full details about the full-sized sedan, but there's one bit of information that has entered the rumor mill: the upcoming Mercedes S-Class sedan will only come with a long wheelbase.

      According to Autocar UK, the seventh-generation Merc sedan won't come in two different wheelbase lengths anymore. Known internally as the W223, it has been rumored to come in long-wheelbase version only and you can blame that on the E-Class. Since the E-Class has grown to a length of 4,920 millimeters (194 inches), offering a short-wheelbase S-Class would step into its bounds, thus, the decision of keeping the next-generation S-Class in long wheelbase at 5,280mm (208 in).

      Although, nothing is confirmed at this point yet, so we can all take this rumor with a grain of salt. At least for now. Besides, Mercedes have a full year to change its mind. A lot of things could happen within this timeline.

      At this point, based on the recent spy shots, we can predict that the upcoming S-Class could come with level 3 autonomous driving capability, as also confirmed by Daimler's head of R&D. Mercedes would probably use the latest of its MBUX infotainment system, which would be more advanced than what the next-generation CLA will have in its CES debut.

      Lastly, the new Mercedes S-Class might have a full-electric version with an EQ S badge. If and when will it debut is something we have to watch out for.
      https://www.motor1.com/news/299873/m...heelbase-only/

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      01-07-2019 02:42 PM #19
      My first thought was "wow, we're seeing test mules when the current generation just came out" then I realized that was 6 years ago. I guess that's a big complement to their head designer who pushed Mercedes to move away from the sharp edge/wedge of cheese look towards something more organic, flowy, and ultimately timeless.
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      02-14-2019 11:56 AM #20
      By now many people have seen this interior pic:



      I can tell you that the instrument cluster/surround will change and that is not the production unit in the interior. The center touchscreen will "float" with the rest of the interior taking an airy vibe inspired by the Maybach 6 concept.
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      Good, because that looks terrible.

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      02-14-2019 12:16 PM #22
      I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think giant touchscreens are luxurious, especially in a more traditional car like the S-Class.

      No different that digital watches to analog IMO.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think giant touchscreens are luxurious, especially in a more traditional car like the S-Class.

      No different that digital watches to analog IMO.
      Agreed. Mfrs seem to think that because people love smartphones and tablets, all cars have to be giant smartphones inside. A car should be easy to use while driving and tablet interfaces require so much attention away from the road. If it has an amazing voice control system (I could see them partnering with Amazon or Apple for that), fine, but otherwise this just looks like they're chasing Tesla and Audi/Volvo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think giant touchscreens are luxurious, especially in a more traditional car like the S-Class.

      No different that digital watches to analog IMO.
      I agree. But the customers who actually buy these cars around the world are asking for the touchscreens.

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      Agreed. Mfrs seem to think that because people love smartphones and tablets, all cars have to be giant smartphones inside. A car should be easy to use while driving and tablet interfaces require so much attention away from the road. If it has an amazing voice control system (I could see them partnering with Amazon or Apple for that), fine, but otherwise this just looks like they're chasing Tesla and Audi/Volvo.
      They've done plenty of HMI benchmarking and listened to customers. COMAND/MMI/and iDrive actually score far higher from a safety perspective than these touchscreen systems. Automakers have had to give in because customers ask for these touchscreens more and more frequently. They want the flash and the "future" even if it comes with a decrease in usability and safety.

      My only guess as many see this as a step towards autonomy so they must have it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by S4cabriofox View Post
      Agreed. Mfrs seem to think that because people love smartphones and tablets, all cars have to be giant smartphones inside. A car should be easy to use while driving and tablet interfaces require so much attention away from the road. If it has an amazing voice control system (I could see them partnering with Amazon or Apple for that), fine, but otherwise this just looks like they're chasing Tesla and Audi/Volvo.
      not to mention, tesla has done wonders to convince people that having huge touchscreens in a car is somehow luxurious, which is a plus to the oem since theyre a lot cheaper than tooling up for a variety of physical switches/interfaces

      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Good, because that looks terrible.
      agreed

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