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      10-24-2017 02:25 PM #1
      I don't have the space to safely store a bunch of guns, and honestly I don't really want to.

      I enjoy hunting deer/elk, boar, and so on. I also enjoy long range target shooting. 1000 yards would be nice to keep shooting at. Locally, I haven't found anywhere that I can get much more than that.

      I currently have a DMPS AR-15 and a Savage Arms 110 BA 308. The AR is chambered in .223 and has a 16.5" barrel. Not the best setup for hunting. The Savage Arms is super accurate, but on the heavy side (17 lbs loaded).

      If you had to pick one rifle and caliber to hunt and shoot long range with, what would it be and why?
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      10-25-2017 02:05 PM #2
      IMO the Savage because of the two it is most suitable for both hunting and long range shooting. Also depending on where you hunt, you may be restricted to hunting with a bolt gun (looking at you, PA) or .24 cal center fire or larger for hunting Elk (CO). There are also some [email protected] yards and bullet weight limits that must be met in some states that .223 would have a tough time meeting.

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      10-25-2017 03:44 PM #3
      .223 is not great at hunting bigger game, and as stated, illegal in some states. Also at 1000 yards you are basically shooting 40+ feet above your target to account for drop. I think 308 standard is going to be similar maybe a little less drop (32 feet) and much more energy? Like 5 times more energy. Not that you are likely hunting at 1000 yards. You really want a 338 for long range. Your drop at 1000 yards is like 20 feet.

      Once you add in wind, shooting with a .223 at that range is going to be quite difficult. That range is difficult with any ammo of course. But 338 is going to be the straightest.

      I have been playing on the ballistics calculator lately looking at my next purchase.
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      10-25-2017 07:05 PM #4
      A bit of clarification...I wasn't completely looking to keep one of the two rifles I currently have.

      If you wanted to hunt large game and shoot out to 1000 yards what would you go with?
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      10-25-2017 08:17 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by ladykiller View Post
      A bit of clarification...I wasn't completely looking to keep one of the two rifles I currently have.

      If you wanted to hunt large game and shoot out to 1000 yards what would you go with?
      300 win mag seems like a good choice here. What distance do you expect to attempt to take large game?
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      10-27-2017 10:17 AM #6
      Try to keep the range within 200 yards, usually closer to 100.
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      10-27-2017 11:26 AM #7
      Hunting at 200 yards compared to hitting plates at 1000 yards is not really the same gun type of situation. Having said that, shooting plates at 1000 yards, can more easily be scaled back to 200 yard hunting. I would have 2 scopes. 1 sighted for hunting, and one for 1000 yards.

      They make your 110 savage as a .338.


      Hmm, now I am thinking I want to pull some tier 1 sniper shooting. But I have absolutely no idea where I could drive and shoot out that far.

      300 is great for shot to mid range. A lot of drop out at 1000.




      Ok, may have found my new gun of choice.

      Savage 112 Magnum Target .338 - About $1000 retail.


      Now to find a place I can shoot long. Of course my optics for long range is going to be pretty pricey as well. Good christmas year for me maybe. Of course if I have no where to shoot it, I guess I don't really need it. And the $3/rnd ammo may bring me back to reality as well. We will see.
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      10-27-2017 12:54 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by ladykiller View Post
      Try to keep the range within 200 yards, usually closer to 100.
      I'll change my vote to 6.5 creedmoor
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      10-27-2017 03:35 PM #9
      I love my Savage 10 FCP-SR in .308, but it would be too heavy to hunt with and .308 isn't the best out to 1,000 yds. To do what you need, something lighter in a magnum caliber would work. The standard Savages or a Tikka T3 lite. It will be punishing for range sessions, and overkill for up close animals, but that would meet your criteria. If you could pull back the max range for target shooting, say max of 600, then many more calibers would work.
      I like my guns locked up, and honestly any way of locking up one gun would be able to fit 2 or more. One gun would get awful lonely in a safe. I would look into better storage solutions and keep multiple guns. How about one of those under-bed quick access cabinets?

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      10-27-2017 03:54 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      Hmm, now I am thinking I want to pull some tier 1 sniper shooting. But I have absolutely no idea where I could drive and shoot out that far.
      how far is Chicago again?
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      10-27-2017 04:04 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by LinkATX View Post
      I'll change my vote to 6.5 creedmoor
      Hmm, nice cheap ammo compared to .338. Damnit, now I am looking at guns again. I am never going to be sniping enemies at 1000 yards, so not necessary to have thousands of ft/lbf of energy left at that distance.

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      10-27-2017 04:15 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by GreenandChrome View Post
      how far is Chicago again?
      Only 4 hours. I don't want to be on the news though.

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      10-27-2017 10:57 PM #13
      Here you go.



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      10-31-2017 08:18 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Here you go.



      That will greatly reduce the amount of deer jerky you can make when half of the deer is splattered on the trees behind it.

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      10-31-2017 09:26 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Power5 View Post
      That will greatly reduce the amount of deer jerky you can make when half of the deer is splattered on the trees behind it.
      Hunt larger game.
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      10-31-2017 10:05 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Hunt larger game.
      Well with a BMG I could probably do that from my state. Just aim towards west virginia and I may get lucky.

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      10-31-2017 11:30 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Hunt larger game.
      yup.

      I'd go with this: https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever.../model-1895sbl



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      11-09-2017 12:14 AM #18
      300 win mag is a great all-rounder for bigger game.

      6.5 Creedmore is a better 308, good for most hunting. Deer, hog, varmits, etc.

      6.5 CM was designed for the AR (AR-10) platform. It basically maxes out the AR-10s capabilities, mainly pressure.





      .270 win is one of my favorites, but a lot more recoil and a lot harder on barrels than the 6.5CM, not to mention the rounds are larger and heavier. I really want the 6.5 CM to be the next US Military round.
      Last edited by Aonarch; 11-09-2017 at 12:22 AM.

    21. 08-10-2019 01:56 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Hunt larger gmy ip birthday wishes tnebame.
      I currently have a DMPS AR-15 and a Savage Arms 110 BA 308. The AR is chambered in .223 and has a 16.5" barrel. Not the best setup for hunting. The Savage Arms is super accurate, but on the heavy side (17 lbs loaded).
      Last edited by amekassa34; 08-12-2019 at 06:08 PM.

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