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      12-06-2017 10:14 AM #1
      Some years ago, I was actively searching Craigslist daily for something "cool". On March 16th 2015 I stumbled onto something interesting, a 1987 Porsche 944 Turbo. I didn't have any experience with these cars, only thing that I knew was what my older brother told me. Close to 20 years ago, my older brothers friend had a 944 Turbo and I listened with interest the stories my brother told me back then. There were stories of being pushed off the road by truckers since the car was so low and truckers didn't see it. There were stories of the boost kicking in, high speed runs on the highway and a story of not being pulled over because of a few well executed turns and a more than a few seconds of the turbo shoving air into the cylinders. I was almost a teenager when the stories were told, who knows how much of them are true but I remembered the slick, low sitting 944 Turbo in red.

      The seller of this particular 951 didn't know what he had. From my understanding, the car was owned by a older gentleman, as part of his multiple Porsche collection. When the gentleman passed away, the seller received this car for free from the estate. For the next 3-4 years the 951 was driven and neglected. There are no maintenance records for those years and per sellers words, he didn't do any maintenance. As with any of these older cars, the cars condition deteriorated and it started having issues. At some point the seller decided it was best just to sell the car and since he didn't know what he had, it was listed for a particular attractive price. I was first to show up since the car was listed on a Monday, I was interested in the 951 but I just didn't have the money. I talked to the seller and found out that the timing belt was last done in 2003 when these timing belts should be done every 4 years. We came to an agreement that when I start and test drive the 951, if the timing belt lets go, I just walk away. The 951 started and I drove it, a/c wasn't working and turbo wasn't spooling as it should, also it sounded like the header had a leak. I thanked the seller and went home, I liked the car but knowing the stories 951 guys tell about maintenance costs, I just wasn't too interested. After a few conversations with the seller, we came up with a price that we were both happy with.

      That Friday, March 20th 2015, I borrowed a trailer and went to pick up the 951. Once the cash was handed over, I winched the car onto the trailer, stopped by the tag office to transfer the title with the seller and towed the 951 home, to a storage unit. Since that purchase day, the 951 has been sitting in a storage unit, waiting for me to get to it. Since I am making plans to give up the storage unit, I towed the 951 home to start working on it. I am hoping by its 3rd birthday with me, it will finally drive.

      951s paint is faded from sitting in the sun and it has a few dents. The most attractive part is the original 58k miles that is proven with Carfax, odometer, inspection receipts and repair receipts. That is the reason I decided to purchase the 951.

      Pictures from the Craigslists ad.






      Picture of the 951 at it's new house, December 2017.



      Total cost of project:
      1987 Porsche 944 Turbo: $4700
      - Front engine reseal kit: $190.35
      - Porsche grease: $40.93
      - Porsche coolant: $35.45
      - Camshaft cap gasket: $0.81
      - Waterpump and timing belt kit w/ Gates belt: $549.36
      - ArnnWorx Specialty Tools kit(for timing belt change): $315.83

      $5,832.73
      Last edited by pawa_k2001; 12-07-2017 at 12:12 PM.

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    3. 12-06-2017 10:37 AM #2
      Very cool! I have always had a soft spot for these cars. Good luck with the resto and be sure to keep this updated. Nice score!

    4. 12-06-2017 10:41 AM #3
      I used to really want one of these cars, they still look so great in my eyes.

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      12-06-2017 10:44 AM #4
      how many cars is that now?

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      12-06-2017 10:45 AM #5
      Cool-I've enjoyed your other project threads.

      Did you previously post about this car? The picture of the Porsche with the white Cruze looks really familiar for some reason.
      Now this was a superior machine. Ten grand worth of gimmicks and high-priced special effects. The rear windows lit up with a touch like frogs in a dynamite pond. The dashboard was full of esoteric lights and dials and meters that I would never understand.

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      12-06-2017 10:48 AM #6
      In!
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      12-06-2017 11:31 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by 4.OMG View Post
      Cool-I've enjoyed your other project threads.

      Did you previously post about this car? The picture of the Porsche with the white Cruze looks really familiar for some reason.
      Thanks. The Craigslist pictures are the same ones I posted in 2015 when I was asking questions about the potential purchase from TCL.

      ~~~~~~~~

      When the car finally came home a couple of days ago, I was finally able to put it on jackstands and look it over. Found a few problem areas that will need to be addressed.

      - Wastegate has 2 broken studs
      - Front left sway bar bracket is bent which caused the sway bar to slip out of the end link on control arm. (got no clue how and when this happened, maybe when I was loading it onto the trailer in 2015)
      - A line popped off the power steering rack when I was loading the car, all the fluid drained out onto the storage units floor.






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      12-06-2017 11:44 AM #8
      I've been watching classifieds for one of these... I dream of having a 951 as a streetable track day car, preferably in white to match the 993 . They're one of my favourite cars from my childhood, looking forward to where this thread goes!

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      12-06-2017 11:45 AM #9
      A thread about an old German sports car is both exciting and daunting. Let's hope for more of the former!

      OP, good luck with the rebuild. Have fun and keep us posted.

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      12-06-2017 12:01 PM #10
      What did you end up paying for it? I did a quick check of Hagerty's valuation tool and..

      Cond 1: $46,400
      Cond 2: $32,800
      Cond 3: $13,300
      Cond 4: $6,100

      I bring this up because I was in a similar position after buying my Porsche 8 years ago and, as the bills start coming in from sorting the car out, it's nice to know you're not throwing money away. It's also clear you have an excellent car that just needs some TLC. Also is that an uncracked dash I see? Dang.
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      12-06-2017 01:04 PM #11
      Glad to know I’m not the only one with a soft spot for these cars.


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      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      What did you end up paying for it? I did a quick check of Hagerty's valuation tool and..

      Cond 1: $46,400
      Cond 2: $32,800
      Cond 3: $13,300
      Cond 4: $6,100

      I bring this up because I was in a similar position after buying my Porsche 8 years ago and, as the bills start coming in from sorting the car out, it's nice to know you're not throwing money away. It's also clear you have an excellent car that just needs some TLC. Also is that an uncracked dash I see? Dang.

      Looks like sports seats too.

      Have you checked the options?

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      12-06-2017 01:14 PM #13
      “Oh hey guys by the way, I’ve got a 951 that’s been laying around for a couple of years”



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      12-06-2017 03:02 PM #15
      Oh yeah. In.

      Let's see what you can do for this car. It needs some serious TLC.
      ...oh, just 'F it.

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      12-06-2017 04:37 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      What did you end up paying for it? I did a quick check of Hagerty's valuation tool and..

      Cond 1: $46,400
      Cond 2: $32,800
      Cond 3: $13,300
      Cond 4: $6,100

      I bring this up because I was in a similar position after buying my Porsche 8 years ago and, as the bills start coming in from sorting the car out, it's nice to know you're not throwing money away. It's also clear you have an excellent car that just needs some TLC. Also is that an uncracked dash I see? Dang.
      We settled at $4700. The dash has 2 1/2" cracks, almost perfect. I will be definitely following the expenses, hopefully this will be the first project that will stay in the black comparing to the cars value.

      Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
      “Oh hey guys by the way, I’ve got a 951 that’s been laying around for a couple of years”



      Subscribed! This is why I still like TCL.
      There were times that I completely forgot about the 951.

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      Who towed that thing around, The Incredible Hulk?
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      12-06-2017 04:48 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by pawa_k2001 View Post
      We settled at $4700. The dash has 2 1/2" cracks, almost perfect. I will be definitely following the expenses, hopefully this will be the first project that will stay in the black comparing to the cars value.
      Good deal indeed and yes, unless you go crazy on mods you should remain in the black...even if you don't just hold onto the car longer and you will eventually as these cars are starting to rise. Whatever you do, I look forward to seeing the progress.
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      Quote Originally Posted by uberR32 View Post
      Who towed that thing around, The Incredible Hulk?
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      12-06-2017 05:49 PM #22
      Look forward to you brining this one back! Hopefully will motivate me to get mine out of the barn (17 miles in the last 4yrs.....)

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      12-06-2017 07:25 PM #23
      Sweet. When I was a kid these were mostly 2nd and 3rd owner cars but I remember thinking they looked so sporty. Now, I'd love to have one as a second car but am fearful of what it takes to keep one running. Definitely in on this thread.
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      12-07-2017 12:02 PM #24
      Some parts are on order.

      - Timing belt and waterpump kit w/ Gates belt
      - Front engine reseal kit
      - Camshaft cap gasket
      - Porsche coolant (extra bottle)
      - ArnnWorx Specialty Tools kit

      Total: $1,131.73




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      12-07-2017 12:14 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by pawa_k2001 View Post
      We settled at $4700. The dash has 2 1/2" cracks, almost perfect. I will be definitely following the expenses, hopefully this will be the first project that will stay in the black comparing to the cars value.
      seems like a steal, thats awesome

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