I may be jumping the gun but They are saying “8 speed automatic transmission”. Does that mean no DSG?
VWoA always screws up limiting well equipped models the rest of the VW world has. They did it with the Golf-taking 20+ years to get AWD, they did it with the Touareg-No TDI, still waiting for a Scirroco, now potentially not having a DSG, one of the best gearboxes to be placed in a consumer vehicle in the world.
For me, no DSG/AWD/2.0T means you have to goto the Audi A5 Sportback.
Last edited by hotsk1llet98; 02-19-2018 at 09:08 AM.
There are reasons there won't be a DSG transmission in this car and objectively they're good ones. Those reasons include smoothness (this isn't a race car by any stretch), reliability, cost, and the fact that most people simply don't give a damn how it operates internally. They do care how it drives on the slog back-and-forth to work and modern conventional automatics are just about perfect for the job.
Also, the Toureg had TDI engines, in fact it had two different TDIs, the V6 and the V10.
Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
Wait nope, C&D plus other sources report an Aisin unit.Lurking beneath the Arteon's hood sits a 2.0-liter TSI turbocharged four-cylinder engine—a common sight in modern VWs—as the sole available motivator. Tuned for the Arteon, however, the 2.0T chucks out 268 horsepower—33 more than the identically sized mill found in the much-larger Atlas and scarily similar to the power produced by the previous-generation Golf R. Unfortunately, that power gain doesn't come with an associated boost in torque, which remains the same as the Atlas 2.0T at 258 lb-ft. Handling cog swapping duties is an eight-speed automatic transmission supplied by ZF, which can send power to the front or all four wheels via Volkswagen's 4Motion all-wheel-drive system.
I take back my statement then. The Arteon is clearly going to be a huge flop because it lacks a DSG. The automatic will literally kill any pleasure from driving the car. Might as well buy a V6 Camry!
The 8-speed is most likely a version of the 09P 8-speed that's in the Atlas, which is an evolution of the 09G/09M 6-speed auto and co-developed with Aisin. VAG's other 8-speeds (the ZF 0BK and 0BL and the Aisin 0C8) are all for longitudinal setups.
B6 Passat 3.6 & 4motion Resource Thread
Now: 2008 VW Passat 3.6 4motion Wagon, 2013 Fiat 500 Sport
Then: 1987 Volvo 745GLE, 1989 Volvo 740GL, 1994 Volvo 940T, 1995 Infiniti G20, 2000 VW Passat 1.8T, 2001 VW Jetta Wolfsburg Ed (x2), 2004 VW Golf TDI, 2006 Jetta TDI
Having purchased more VW’s than years you’ve been on the planet, owning in Germany, Japan, U.K, and U.S, I’m extremely familiar with the company. Thanks for asking.
I’ve refrained myself from posting comments in Vortex for over 10 years due to trolls who slam peoples options, hopes, and ideas. I see nothing has changed...
Segway back ON TOPIC... I can’t wait to see what options are available on the new Arteon. 19” alloys would be awesome.
Last edited by hotsk1llet98; 02-20-2018 at 08:54 PM.
If you knew VW as well as you stated above you would be aware one, that the Arteon is coming here to amortize cost as the model is more for Europe than the US market, VW knows volume for it will be low here and two, you would know too that the Scirocco wouldn't have sold in the numbers VW needs, they already have too many low volume models in the US market, the Scirocco would just be another lot weed.
VW is doing some things right, with the Tig and Atlas and the Arteon will make quite a few happy as it will have some neat features and they will be discounted too at some point.
It’s far from trolling, the Scirocco argument has been beaten to death and objective people knew it was never coming. The good news for Scirocco fans? If there’s a fourth gen car it will be built on MQB architecture (and labor contracts may not dictate it to be built in Germany), so it’s possible it would be built on our hemisphere and since there’s no 2-door GTI to cannibalize its sales there’s a chance we’d get it.
It’s no secret that Americans generally want a smoother driveline and less maintenance.
It’s also amazing that you’ve had more than 52 Volkswagens. I think I’ve only had about 20.
Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
Starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion, often for the trolls amusement. It’s like a 52 year old showing up at a college frat party and starts a debate about xeriscape being more efficient than Tifway Bermuda grass. Go follow and troll someone else.
BACK ON TOPIC....I really hope they offer 19 inch wheels on the new Arteon. So excited.
Last edited by hotsk1llet98; 02-20-2018 at 08:55 PM.
Very excited as I have been waiting for it for awhile. Was waiting for a suitable replacement for our 2012 CC, and will probably pull the trigger as soon as they go on sale.
The wife will get the Arteon while I take over the CC; just need my 2007 Passat Wagon to keep going for another 6 months or so
Standard features include: 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels
Personally, I don't think that they are going to offer a -3" wheel option, and if I were a betting man, the brakes on this vehicle will probably equal to the size offered on the 2012+ NMS Passat, which are 12.3" brakes. No wheel less than about 16" will fit on those cars.