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    3. 02-21-2018 03:49 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by got-rice View Post
      Well, there's conformation that I'm a car guy because I don't speak the language but I picked up that he didn't like the Arteon's build quality, such as that hood/fender gap and ugly under skin bonding but he did like a well done silicone job that was ample in size and perfect in firmness.

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      02-21-2018 03:53 PM #103
      Russians are notorious for bad taste when it comes to women and cars. And clothing.
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    5. 02-21-2018 04:37 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by Double-V View Post
      Russians are notorious for bad taste when it comes to women and cars. And clothing.
      Russia just hollered back


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      02-21-2018 05:21 PM #105
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      02-21-2018 06:30 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by Double-V View Post
      Russians are notorious for bad taste when it comes to women and cars. And clothing.
      From what I read, the folks you see in the video are Ukrainian...I suppose that makes a huge difference

    8. 02-21-2018 06:39 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by got-rice View Post
      From what I read, the folks you see in the video are Ukrainian...I suppose that makes a huge difference

      Ukraine, "I can see Russia in my house".

      It's just a bombs throw away

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      03-16-2018 03:11 PM #108
      https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/16/...usauto00000016

      - Arteon could get 3.6L V6
      - Shooting brake has been developed; has not been revealed

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      03-16-2018 03:44 PM #109
      Saw a red Arteon at the auto show yesterday.

      It was surprisingly pedestrian/boring. No wow factor whatsoever in person, even in red. I am disappoint.

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      03-16-2018 04:05 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      Saw a red Arteon at the auto show yesterday.

      It was surprisingly pedestrian/boring. No wow factor whatsoever in person, even in red. I am disappoint.
      Your opinion, it means nothing.

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      03-16-2018 04:25 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by BeBop! View Post
      Your opinion, it means nothing.

    13. 03-16-2018 04:29 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      Saw a red Arteon at the auto show yesterday.

      It was surprisingly pedestrian/boring. No wow factor whatsoever in person, even in red. I am disappoint.
      I can't disagree. The one at the Toronto show was dark blue and it lacked a lot of wow factor that showed up in the images. I was uncertain after seeing it . . .

      Still a turbo VR6 would make that all go away . . .

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      03-16-2018 07:21 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by silverspeedbuggy View Post
      - Arteon could get 3.6L V6
      - Shooting brake has been developed; has not been revealed
      My head asplode. If an Arteon 3.6 Shooting Brake w/4motion ever goes on sale in the US I might actually want to trade up from my Passat, which I never thought would happen given how automotive trends have been moving.
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      04-20-2018 09:46 AM #114
      Arteon R! (Or should they call it ArRteon? R-teon? Rteon? Rawrteon?)

      https://www.vwvortex.com/news/get-rs-...around-corner/

    16. 04-20-2018 09:56 AM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by silverspeedbuggy View Post
      Arteon R! (Or should they call it ArRteon? R-teon? Rteon? Rawrteon?)

      https://www.vwvortex.com/news/get-rs-...around-corner/
      If this is true, it'll be awesome. Turbo'd VR6 Arteon would be nothing short of epic.

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      04-20-2018 10:39 AM #116
      While a good number of automobile manufacturers have already announced, or are very seriously considering, discontinuing their larger 4 door sedans due to poor sales, VW, in typical fashion, comes 5 years late to the party with a tarted up version of their CC, a car which never sold well and depreciated rapidly after leaving the lot. They are positioning this car in the upscale market, the same market they are abandoning by dropping the Touareg.

      I don't see this going well.

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      04-20-2018 10:44 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by luckeydoug1 View Post
      While a good number of automobile manufacturers have already announced, or are very seriously considering, discontinuing their larger 4 door sedans due to poor sales, VW, in typical fashion, comes 5 years late to the party with a tarted up version of their CC, a car which never sold well and depreciated rapidly after leaving the lot. They are positioning this car in the upscale market, the same market they are abandoning by dropping the Touareg.

      I don't see this going well.
      MQB means that they don't have to sell as many to make a profit/break even. It's also a worldwide car, so there's that. Will it make a profit, especially in the U.S.? I don't know, but it will have a better chance than the CC.

      Personally I'm glad it is (may be?) coming, even if it isn't in my future. A 300+ hp great looking coupe/sedan thing in the market is a good thing. If it were to come with a manual (it won't) it would be even better.


      Oh, and my vote is Rteon.
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    19. 04-20-2018 10:53 AM #118
      Yeah this car isn't big at all. Maybe 5 series size, more likely A5 Sportback/Accord size. So not what you would clasify as a large sedan. We'll see on pricing . . .

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      04-20-2018 10:56 AM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by luckeydoug1 View Post
      While a good number of automobile manufacturers have already announced, or are very seriously considering, discontinuing their larger 4 door sedans due to poor sales, VW, in typical fashion, comes 5 years late to the party with a tarted up version of their CC, a car which never sold well and depreciated rapidly after leaving the lot. They are positioning this car in the upscale market, the same market they are abandoning by dropping the Touareg.

      I don't see this going well.
      Tell me about this "party" that was going on in 2013 that VW missed

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      04-20-2018 11:01 AM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by got-rice View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Double-V View Post
      Russians are notorious for bad taste when it comes to women and cars. And clothing.
      6:36-6:52 would prove you otherwise.

      you can all thank me later.

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      04-20-2018 11:10 AM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by madrussian View Post
      6:36-6:52 would prove you otherwise.

      you can all thank me later.
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      04-20-2018 11:30 AM #122
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      Fake boobs = instant fail.
      im not looking for marriage material.

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      04-20-2018 05:14 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      Yeah this car isn't big at all. Maybe 5 series size, more likely A5 Sportback/Accord size. So not what you would clasify as a large sedan. We'll see on pricing . . .
      The Arteon is bigger than the A5 Sportback and smaller than the A7. I think it's just about the "perfect" size for a halo model for VW: it's large inside and has lots of trunk space, but it's not huge.

      Quote Originally Posted by luckeydoug1 View Post
      While a good number of automobile manufacturers have already announced, or are very seriously considering, discontinuing their larger 4 door sedans due to poor sales, VW, in typical fashion, comes 5 years late to the party with a tarted up version of their CC, a car which never sold well and depreciated rapidly after leaving the lot. They are positioning this car in the upscale market, the same market they are abandoning by dropping the Touareg.

      I don't see this going well.
      You're missing a few marks here.
      1. Manufacturers have started considering discontinuing large sedans. Very few (none that I can think of) have actually done so (yet).
      2. Liftback/fastback cars are gaining lots of interest in the marketplace. Stinger GT, A5 Sportback, etc. While buyers of traditional sedans are moving to SUVs, there's probably a decent market for those who don't want one and would like a more stylish car.
      3. The CC wasn't popular because it was less practical. When introduced it only sat 4 people, rear headroom was compromised, and the trunk opening was small. The Arteon has significantly more headroom, the rear doors are larger, it seats 5, and the liftback gives more trunk space with a huge opening.
      4. The styling/design looks much more upmarket than the CC. I've seen this car in-person. I've sat in it. I've opened doors/trunk/hood and poked around it quite a bit. I've even stared at it for extended periods of time in person. I'm completely serious when I say that photos do not do this car justice. When you see the car in-the-flesh it looks substantially more upscale than the CC. The CC looks cartoonish compared to the Arteon. I truly think there will be quite a few people who will look at the Arteon that have never considered a VW before. It is leaps and bounds better than the CC. In fact, the only thing that it has in common with the CC is that they're both 4 door coupes with dramatic styling. VW was smart in changing the name: this car is in a different league than the CC.

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      04-20-2018 06:01 PM #124
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      im not looking for marriage material.
      Why would that matter?
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      04-20-2018 06:12 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by silverspeedbuggy View Post
      The Arteon is bigger than the A5 Sportback and smaller than the A7. I think it's just about the "perfect" size for a halo model for VW: it's large inside and has lots of trunk space, but it's not huge.



      You're missing a few marks here.
      1. Manufacturers have started considering discontinuing large sedans. Very few (none that I can think of) have actually done so (yet).
      2. Liftback/fastback cars are gaining lots of interest in the marketplace. Stinger GT, A5 Sportback, etc. While buyers of traditional sedans are moving to SUVs, there's probably a decent market for those who don't want one and would like a more stylish car.
      3. The CC wasn't popular because it was less practical. When introduced it only sat 4 people, rear headroom was compromised, and the trunk opening was small. The Arteon has significantly more headroom, the rear doors are larger, it seats 5, and the liftback gives more trunk space with a huge opening.
      4. The styling/design looks much more upmarket than the CC. I've seen this car in-person. I've sat in it. I've opened doors/trunk/hood and poked around it quite a bit. I've even stared at it for extended periods of time in person. I'm completely serious when I say that photos do not do this car justice. When you see the car in-the-flesh it looks substantially more upscale than the CC. The CC looks cartoonish compared to the Arteon. I truly think there will be quite a few people who will look at the Arteon that have never considered a VW before. It is leaps and bounds better than the CC. In fact, the only thing that it has in common with the CC is that they're both 4 door coupes with dramatic styling. VW was smart in changing the name: this car is in a different league than the CC.
      I just wish the inside was a bit more dramatic, it's like they spent all the money on the outside.

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