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      03-27-2018 09:36 AM #2
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      Next version of popular car will have more power, look different, and be more fuel efficient.

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      03-27-2018 09:44 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by FastGTi View Post
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      Next version of popular car will have more power, look different, and be more fuel efficient.
      Like every new generation of every model....ever.
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      03-27-2018 09:45 AM #4
      48 volt technology is revolutionizing the auto industry


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      03-27-2018 09:47 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by FastGTi View Post
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      03-27-2018 09:52 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      48 volt technology is revolutionizing the auto industry
      In what way?
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      03-27-2018 09:54 AM #7
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      03-27-2018 09:56 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by davewg View Post
      Like every new generation of every model....ever.

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      03-27-2018 10:01 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by GTI 20v View Post
      In what way?
      Eliminating turbo lag as well delivering greater performance and efficiency. Have you read about the motors in the new 53 AMG models and the Audi SQ7. It’s just a matter of time until 48 volt tech trickles down into mainstream offerings.


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    11. 03-27-2018 10:03 AM #10
      NOTE the GT3 style wheels!!!

      Lets hope it drives similar to a GT3

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      03-27-2018 10:07 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by EKaru View Post
      Eliminating turbo lag as well delivering greater performance and efficiency. Have you read about the motors in the new 53 AMG models and the Audi SQ7. It’s just a matter of time until 48 volt tech trickles down into mainstream offerings.


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      The last best solution I have ever heard of eliminationg turbo lag was when Lancia was still racing in group B with the Delta S4. It had a supercharger+turbo set up so supercharger worked at the bottom rpms until turbo spooled up which created no turbo lag as you had some kind of a boost at all times. Not sure why it never was redeveloped to fit modern cars.

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      03-27-2018 10:10 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbo II View Post
      The last best solution I have ever heard of eliminationg turbo lag was when Lancia was still racing in group B with the Delta S4. It had a supercharger+turbo set up so supercharger worked at the bottom rpms until turbo spooled up which created no turbo lag as you had some kind of a boost at all times. Not sure why it never was redeveloped to fit modern cars.
      It was, by VW.

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      03-27-2018 10:16 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      Yeah, it failed miserably, but not because of the setup, but because of how VW didn;t make them exciting and didn't put them in an exciting car. (the new Scirocco never really hit off) It would be a different story if they did the same thing to a Golf GTI or R. You can't really feel much difference in a 1.4 Polo.... even if it's a Polo GTI.

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      03-27-2018 10:19 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      or more recently used by Volvo


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      03-27-2018 10:24 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbo II View Post
      Yeah, it failed miserably, but not because of the setup, but because of how VW didn;t make them exciting and didn't put them in an exciting car. (the new Scirocco never really hit off) It would be a different story if they did the same thing to a Golf GTI or R. You can't really feel much difference in a 1.4 Polo.... even if it's a Polo GTI.
      The twin-charged engine was available in a host of VW Group cars including the Golf GT, Audi A1, EOS and Ibiza Cupra. It was a well reviewed engine but it was not successful enough for VW to overcome its higher cost and complexity.

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      03-27-2018 10:32 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      The twin-charged engine was available in a host of VW Group cars including the Golf GT, Audi A1, EOS and Ibiza Cupra. It was a well reviewed engine but it was not successful enough for VW to overcome its higher cost and complexity.
      I think that this is where it failed. They should have made it a high performance engine, at least a 2.0, if not more and put it in higher performance cars which is where you really feel the turbo lag if anything. I can't see an average Audi A1 or EOS driver complaining about turbo lag. It just wasn't executed correctly in the model placement strategy.

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      03-27-2018 10:59 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by FastGTi View Post
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      I think you missed something of paramount importance.


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      48 volt technology is revolutionizing the auto industry
      And that would be it.
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    20. 03-27-2018 11:00 AM #19
      Yeah, sure, okay.

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      03-27-2018 11:09 AM #20
      This is kind of exactly what I want. A hybrid used to make more power and provide better fuel economy. A budget P1.
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      03-27-2018 11:14 AM #21
      the twincharging is really cool. I'd be glad to give it a shot, but not as an early adopter. I don't doubt it's a direction we will be seeing more of in the future (outside just Volvo who has been twincharging for a while now)

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      03-27-2018 11:15 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by jai5 View Post
      This is kind of exactly what I want. A hybrid used to make more power and provide better fuel economy. A budget P1.
      So is the new Wrangler a budget P1 too?

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    25. 03-27-2018 11:33 AM #24
      I have experienced the twin-charged Volvo I4 in numerous applications now, and I don't like it. Extremely unnatural feel and odd power delivery, unexciting, and sounds lame. And that's to say nothing of the reliability.

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      03-27-2018 12:54 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by PrettyHateMachine View Post
      I have experienced the twin-charged Volvo I4 in numerous applications now, and I don't like it. Extremely unnatural feel and odd power delivery, unexciting, and sounds lame. And that's to say nothing of the reliability.
      Just sounds to me like Lancia 30 years ago was the only one to get it right, seems like all else either failed or isn't doing what it should.

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