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    1. 01-18-2018 09:49 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by RBurns237 View Post
      I bought the SEL last week, which comes with the full tow package that the SEL Prem has. My Atlas does have the "lower grille shutters". Where did you find that they were 'Ditched"?




      Quote Originally Posted by Chris4789 View Post
      I just bought the SEL Premium and factory tow pkg. was included. According to one of the articles I read somewhere on the Atlas:

      "Those looking to tow more than 2000 pounds will need the SEL V-6, which comes with a factory hitch and a 5000-pound towing capacity. VW also ups the radiator fan’s motor from 600 to 850 watts and ditches the lower grille shutters to ensure air is always passing through the heat exchangers".
      There are two two options — the 2000 pound option and the 5000 pound option. By default the SEL Premium comes with the 2000 pound option, and you have to do the factory upgrade to get 5000. I was under the impression that the grill shutters stayed with the 2000 pound option (standard in SEL Premium) but were ditched if you get the factory upgrade to 5000 pounds.

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      01-18-2018 11:38 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Atlas123 View Post
      There are two two options — the 2000 pound option and the 5000 pound option. By default the SEL Premium comes with the 2000 pound option, and you have to do the factory upgrade to get 5000. I was under the impression that the grill shutters stayed with the 2000 pound option (standard in SEL Premium) but were ditched if you get the factory upgrade to 5000 pounds.
      Nope!

      From dealer 2018_VW_Atlas_Order_Guide
      Factory-installed trailer hitch w/ 5,000 lb. towing capacity (optional on V6 SE & SE w/ Tech. only) — — OV6 OV6 SV6 S
      Trailer hitch, port-installed, up to 2,000 lb. towing capacity - part of the Accessory Towing Kit O O O O O2T —

      In order those columns are S, Launch, SE, SE Tech, SEL, SEL Prem

      So 5000# towing is standard on all SEL Premium, and the V6 SEL. It is now optional on all V6s SEs

    4. 01-18-2018 12:07 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by ice4life View Post
      There is an accessory panel that goes over the area. This hitch is not a cheap add on between the hitch, wiring harness, and decor panel. It adds up.
      Do you have a part number for the accessory panel? I've been trying to find one.

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    6. 01-18-2018 02:04 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by CobaltSky View Post
      Nope!

      From dealer 2018_VW_Atlas_Order_Guide
      Factory-installed trailer hitch w/ 5,000 lb. towing capacity (optional on V6 SE & SE w/ Tech. only) — — OV6 OV6 SV6 S
      Trailer hitch, port-installed, up to 2,000 lb. towing capacity - part of the Accessory Towing Kit O O O O O2T —

      In order those columns are S, Launch, SE, SE Tech, SEL, SEL Prem

      So 5000# towing is standard on all SEL Premium, and the V6 SEL. It is now optional on all V6s SEs
      Interesting. I think that may be a mid-year change. The older Atlas order guide that I was given when I purchased shows the 2,000 lb standard on Premium and one needing to order AGH Trailer Hitch Extras to get the 5,000 lbs.
      https://di-uploads-pod10.dealerinspi...-and-order.pdf

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      01-18-2018 02:33 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Atlas123 View Post
      Interesting. I think that may be a mid-year change. The older Atlas order guide that I was given when I purchased shows the 2,000 lb standard on Premium and one needing to order AGH Trailer Hitch Extras to get the 5,000 lbs.
      https://di-uploads-pod10.dealerinspi...-and-order.pdf
      Looks like you nailed it. People with an earlier SEL or SEL Prem got screwed out of 5000 lb towing, (and neither towing option was even orderable at week 15), as this shows. Something to check on if you own one, before you hitch up

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      01-19-2018 02:43 PM #31
      I think the AGH Trailer Hitch Extras is just a hitch ball and mount, NOT the trailer hitch receiver itself. And it is a 5,000 lb rated ball and mount. So this has nothing to do with what the vehicle itself can do. You can put a 5,000 lb ball and mount into a 2,000 lb hitch or an 8,000 lb hitch. It won't make the 2,000 lb vehicle tow more than 2,000 lbs and conversely it will limit the 8,000 lb vehicle to 5,000 lbs since that is now the weak link in the chain.

      So summary of my understanding:

      Early (wk 15 order guide) - only V6 SEL and SEL-P came with hitches, they were all 5,000 lb rated, and you could optionally get your ball and mount from VW (also rated to 5,000 lbs).

      Later (current order guides) - V6 SEL and SEL-P come with 5,000 lb hitches standard, and now it is a factory option on V6 SE and SE w/ Tech. Additionally a 2,000 lb hitch is available as a port option on any model that didn't come from one from the factory (both V6 and 2.0T). The AGH Extras option is still available for the 5,000 lbs hitch vehicles and the 2,000 lbs port option kit includes a ball and mount.
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      01-19-2018 04:23 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by WeeeZer14 View Post
      I think the AGH Trailer Hitch Extras is just a hitch ball and mount, NOT the trailer hitch receiver itself. And it is a 5,000 lb rated ball and mount. So this has nothing to do with what the vehicle itself can do. You can put a 5,000 lb ball and mount into a 2,000 lb hitch or an 8,000 lb hitch. It won't make the 2,000 lb vehicle tow more than 2,000 lbs and conversely it will limit the 8,000 lb vehicle to 5,000 lbs since that is now the weak link in the chain.

      So summary of my understanding:

      Early (wk 15 order guide) - only V6 SEL and SEL-P came with hitches, they were all 5,000 lb rated, and you could optionally get your ball and mount from VW (also rated to 5,000 lbs).

      Later (current order guides) - V6 SEL and SEL-P come with 5,000 lb hitches standard, and now it is a factory option on V6 SE and SE w/ Tech. Additionally a 2,000 lb hitch is available as a port option on any model that didn't come from one from the factory (both V6 and 2.0T). The AGH Extras option is still available for the 5,000 lbs hitch vehicles and the 2,000 lbs port option kit includes a ball and mount.
      So the AGH extra(s) is just a ball and hitch?


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      01-19-2018 06:32 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by 0macman0 View Post
      So the AGH extra(s) is just a ball and hitch?
      It is a ball, ball mount, and the 7-pin connector. Full description from the order guide (2018 wk2):

      AGH Trailer Hitch Extras
      Hitch Ball & Mount (5,000 lb. tow capacity), 7-Pin Adapter Plug
      Available only on V6 models w/ factory-installed trailer hitch
      (P12 for SE & SE w/ Tech., standard on SEL & SEL Premium)


      The "hitch" is the metal bolted/welded to the tow vehicle. The hitch has a "receiver" which is usually 1.25 or 2 inches square (just talking about common in the US for personal vehicles). The combination of those two are sometimes called a "receiver hitch" to distinguish it from other types of hitches used in agricultural or industrial settings.

      Into the receiver opening you slide in a "ball mount" which is held in place by a "hitch pin". And at the end of the ball mount you attach the "ball" to which the trailer will physically connect.

      The terms get thrown around, combined, and mixed up a lot. Usually doesn't matter since it is usually clear what people are talking about, but here in this case VW has complicated things by having different bits and pieces included depending on what packages/options are involved.
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    11. 01-20-2018 09:24 AM #34
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGlAzZK2nvk


      I think all vehicles with V6 and 4MO can do 5000?

    12. 01-20-2018 09:38 AM #35
      I just returned from a trip to the MI U.P. towing a 14' enclosed R&R snowmobile trailer. Snow and high winds, fully loaded, probably 1800 lbs. SE with Tech, I installed the hitch and wiring myself. No change in regular oil temp throughout the trip. The Atlas was great, stable, plenty of power and handled the trailer with no issue. 13 MPG. I had to buy aftermarket mirror extensions. Very happy with my set-up.

    13. 02-03-2018 12:58 PM #36
      I'm placing this question here since it is allied with towing and stands the best chance to be answered.


      Mtg my 4' wide basket carrier brings up a "reverse" problem. The rear 'PDC' & rear 'Cross Traffic sensors' are triggered to red and shortly full auto braking stops the car. (Atlas SEL Premium)

      I can turn off the rear PDC but the rear Cross Traffic is still stopping any backing up. (Because it sees the hitch mt'd basket carrier)


      Do I need to provide a seudo trailer electrical load to end the Atlas seeing an about to happen false collision?

      Any help on this would be much appreciated.


      TIA


      I have since incorporated Owners Manual pg 256 in solving this problem with no success. SEE Edit ie Unchecking Blind Spot Monitor & unchecking Rear Traffic Alert pg 256



      Solved:

      Menu - Vehicle - Settings - 'Assistance Systems' Uncheck "Blind Spot"

      'Parking & Maneuvering' uncheck "Rear Traffic Alert" ....... uncheck "Maneuver Braking"

      So this is one way to have a hitch supported flat basket cargo carrier auto & abruptly not bring you to a halt when backing up.

      Our Atlas SEL Premium InforTainMent screen menus seem to hide line items................. sometimes hard to get the next page of that menu.
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      02-04-2018 03:43 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by rdenis View Post
      Do you have a part number for the accessory panel? I've been trying to find one.
      Here is the VW Accessory listing I found for the Rear Lower Valence which I presume covers the tow hitch when it is not in use.
      Part # 3CN807434A9B9 with park distance control List price is $345. I'd like to see a Pic is anyone has it.
      Part Number: 3CN807521A9B9 without park distance control; Part Number: 3CN807568D041 R - Line Models (black); Part Number: 3CN807521DGRU R - Line Models (Primer)

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      Last edited by Chris4789; 02-04-2018 at 03:51 PM. Reason: to add additional part numbers

    15. 04-25-2018 09:49 AM #38
      Hey all,

      I've searched high and low and haven't seen anyone actual post results/experiences of installing a hitch after purchase of their atlas. UPS freight is scheduled to deliver all the parts today so i figured i'd officially probe before diving in.

      I ordered:
      3CN092135A - the hitch receiver
      3CN807434A9B9 - bumper valence with the notch for reveal of hitch
      3CN055203A - wiring kit
      3CN092730 - ball and mount
      N91137101/B19684701 - nut and bolt for mounting wiring box

      Picked it all up for about 800 shipped.

      I have the SE w/ Tech...couldn't find any on a dealers lot with the tow package and didn't want to spend the extra on stepping up to the SEL. I can post here with the results of the install since it doesn't seem to exist.

    16. 04-26-2018 05:17 PM #39
      I would be interested in this. Let us know how hard it is. The only drawback for factory hitch is 2000k limit. I was looking at this aftermarket that is good for 5k:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGlAzZK2nvk

    17. 04-26-2018 08:11 PM #40
      I had an eco hitch on my forester that I traded in. Solid product minus the outer coating breaking off leaving the metal to rust right near the receiver. It definitely did the job though....I had towed 5k with it and the subie was only rated for 3.

      As far as the limit on the oem hitch, I’m not sold there is anything different between the hitch I ordered and the one factory installed. I just brought it in from the driveway and its heavy with solid welds. My guess is VW limits towing due to cooling the trans and I don’t plan on towing anything long distance so I’m not concerned if I exceed the 2k.

    18. 04-27-2018 04:10 PM #41
      I'm interested in seeing how a dealer-installed OEM hitch would look compared to buying an entire rear-valence ($345 MSRP).

      I'm sure you noticed under the OEM after-market hitch description that it says "expert cutting of the rear valence required"?

      Has anyone with an SE had this done at a dealer?

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      04-27-2018 06:42 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by dgleeds View Post
      I would be interested in this. Let us know how hard it is. The only drawback for factory hitch is 2000k limit. I was looking at this aftermarket that is good for 5k:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGlAzZK2nvk
      The factory hitch is rated for 5000lbs. It also comes with the transmission cooler. The manual says that aftermarket hitches are only rated for 2000.

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      05-08-2018 04:33 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by RunningRob View Post
      Hey all,

      I've searched high and low and haven't seen anyone actual post results/experiences of installing a hitch after purchase of their atlas. UPS freight is scheduled to deliver all the parts today so i figured i'd officially probe before diving in.

      I ordered:
      3CN092135A - the hitch receiver
      3CN807434A9B9 - bumper valence with the notch for reveal of hitch
      3CN055203A - wiring kit
      3CN092730 - ball and mount
      N91137101/B19684701 - nut and bolt for mounting wiring box

      Picked it all up for about 800 shipped.

      I have the SE w/ Tech...couldn't find any on a dealers lot with the tow package and didn't want to spend the extra on stepping up to the SEL. I can post here with the results of the install since it doesn't seem to exist.
      Is the valence part of the rear bumper and snaps into it? Wondering if the non-hitch bumper can be modified without buying this piece.

    21. 05-12-2018 09:45 AM #44
      So I just installed yesterday finally! The hitch itself was easy to install. Getting left side rear panel off to install wiring harness/control module was a PITA.

      On top of that, I need to take to the dealer to get the damn hung activated! Way to over complicate things VW.

      To answer your question, you don’t need to buy the valence to install the hitch. You will just need to cut a big hole In the black plastic part of the bumper for the OEM hitch. The valence will definitely look better than a cut hole IMO and worth the 270 dollars considering I paid 36k for the car. If you get the valence it’s just the matte black plastic part. Which snaps onto the colored part of the bumper. You will need to take old trim off valence and attach to new valence. I have pictures I’ll gave to post when I get some more time.

      I’ll note that I ordered the wrong valence. I think I got the one meant for the SEL. I should have ordered the one with out the rear collision sensors. The only difference is that I’m missing a piece of chrome trim that I will now need to order. Fits fine so it’s not the end of the world.

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      05-29-2018 12:44 PM #45
      Towed the first trailer with the Atlas this weekend. 5x8 foot utility trailer. It pulled great, but the drawbar I got from Uhaul made a heck of a lot of noise inside the hitch. Didn't fit very tight at all.

      Yes, the trailer was light, especially when not loaded, but I've never had a drawbar be that loose or make so much noise on any car.

      Anyone have a different brand drawbar, or know of anything that might help it? Thanks
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      Haha. Wow, an entire page all about rattling hitches! Thanks!
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      05-29-2018 11:46 PM #48
      I purchased the OEM ball and mount from the dealer. It's the correct length and height specified by VW and the hitch manufacturer. No issues or noise towing our lightweight cargo trailer or 3000lb. camper.

    26. 05-30-2018 12:15 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by vwbugstuff View Post
      I purchased the OEM ball and mount from the dealer. It's the correct length and height specified by VW and the hitch manufacturer. No issues or noise towing our lightweight cargo trailer or 3000lb. camper.
      Which camper do you have? Pics?


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      05-30-2018 12:53 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by TWong1200 View Post
      Which camper do you have? Pics?


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