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      06-24-2019 05:54 PM #126
      Glass shop succeeded without cracking the glass, thank jeebus. They complimented the quality of Vintage Rubber's seal, not realizing it was a reproduction, so that's cool.

      Clicked the odometer over to 84,000 on the way home.







      I'm going to take a stab at sanding and polishing the aluminum window trim and then reinstalling. Watched some videos on youtube about renewing chrome trim using wet sanding techniques. Going to give that a shot. Anyone ever done that? There's a fairly nasty part of the trim that could look a lot better.

      Now that it's watertight, I suppose it's time to insure it and time to get it through state inspection. Going to sign up for Classic car plates. Can't believe I made. 1 year and 4 months. The car is NOT done, but it can definitely hit the road and see what else I can shake out.

      Still need to swap out the 4 speed for a 5, for example.
      Remind me to double check my diagnoses

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      06-24-2019 07:33 PM #127
      I thought the aluminum window trim had to be pressed in before the glass is installed, is that not the case?
      It's hard for me to know exactly what these things cost me. I'm guessing a LOT, but I like them, so that's that.

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      06-26-2019 08:07 PM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      I thought the aluminum window trim had to be pressed in before the glass is installed, is that not the case?
      The window shop made it sound like it was the last step of the install process. I removed it first during disassembly and I don’t see a reason why it can’t be installed last.

      I hope that’s right.
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      06-26-2019 09:39 PM #129
      I guess use lots of lube, press the trim into place firmly but without hitting it, for fear of breaking the glass. I'd be especially concerned about the corners where it appears the bend has collapsed the groove in the seal.
      It's hard for me to know exactly what these things cost me. I'm guessing a LOT, but I like them, so that's that.

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      06-27-2019 02:52 PM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by echassin View Post
      I guess use lots of lube, press the trim into place firmly but without hitting it, for fear of breaking the glass. I'd be especially concerned about the corners where it appears the bend has collapsed the groove in the seal.
      I have never had much luck getting the trim piece in after the window has been installed. It is just too tight. The corners will be the hardest part like you mentioned. Do not use a screw driver to widen the groove even when tempted.

      The last windshield I installed I put the trim piece in first and had much better success but it wanted to keep squirting out when pulling the seal in.

      And of course lots of lube is always the right way to do things
      Gordy S

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      11-21-2019 06:27 PM #131
      Sure sure, had a baby boy in August, but found a great deal on a swap for this former rust monster:



      Found a really amazing deal thanks to Ryan Schuermann, and he and I yanked the guts out of a very much totaled 16v sitting in a lot.

      I want to show you all the condition of the car it came out of, but you all should really be sitting down.
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      This is the result of a (presumably large truck?) t-boning this poor car into an iron fence. Thankfully, the engine compartment was perfect.



      The engine was almost entirely complete with computers, plumbing, wiring, accessories, brackets.. Felt like I hit the jackpot.

      Going to continue to drive my slow 1.6L as is until the summer comes and makes un-air conditioned car life unbearable and will then begin to drop the new engine in!

      Thanks again to Ryan!



      I know the engine looks like it's being held up by the intake, but it ain't.
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      11-21-2019 07:24 PM #132
      You should buy that '85 project in the classifieds. You could make it into a "real" 16V with the parts from your crunched 16V.

      (CIS-E being the most important part.)

      The tranny on the 16V also has one slightly different lever - I think it's called the relay lever but am too lazy to go get the Bentley and look it up.

      Your crunched 16V is the only condition of Scirocco I don't mind seeing cut up and thrown away.

      Be sure to carefully remove and save all wiring harnesses and anything else that didn't get destroyed in the crash.

      I hate it when junk yards cut up $1,000.00 (or irreplaceable) harnesses to sell $15.00 connectors.

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      11-21-2019 07:25 PM #133
      Yikes!! Forgot about the engine, hope the passengers were OK


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      11-21-2019 08:55 PM #134
      If nothing else, save the prop valves for the rear disks on that crunched Scirocco 16V.


      Those are probably the rarest part on a Scirocco, or any VW MK1.

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      11-21-2019 09:00 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by jimmyspirits View Post
      Yikes!! Forgot about the engine, hope the passengers were OK


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      Yes, forget everything else. How were the people in the Scirocco?

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      11-22-2019 01:31 AM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by 53PL-50AAA-VW611BAN View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by jimmyspirits View Post
      Yikes!! Forgot about the engine, hope the passengers were OK


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      Yes, forget everything else. How were the people in the Scirocco?
      The car was parked and empty at the time of the crunch.

      It’s not my car. I just made off with the loot. Ryan saved the prop valves and the transmission. I got everything else!
      Remind me to double check my diagnoses

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      11-22-2019 09:03 PM #137
      Great news all around. Good luck with all that nice loot.


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      12-18-2019 03:13 AM #138
      Quote Originally Posted by 53PL-50AAA-VW611BAN View Post
      If nothing else, save the prop valves for the rear disks on that crunched Scirocco 16V.


      Those are probably the rarest part on a Scirocco, or any VW MK1.

      yeah, I made sure to get those along with the front caliper/carriers

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      12-26-2019 10:10 AM #139
      Nice score getting all the 16V gear for a swap... I can relate totally as to how much a pain it is with stuff missing... good luck with the conversion, i will be watching

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      02-02-2020 01:16 AM #140


      Opened up the valve cover and found some good news. Not bad looking for an engine with almost 200k on it.



      New timing belt, tensioner, valve cover gasket, intake gaskets, oil pan gasket (engine came to me with NO oil pan gasket!?), oil seals on crank, intermediate and camshafts,, water pump, thermostat, and oil cooler.

      Took the passenger side engine mount to the local dealership, and asked them if they could press in a new insert. Fully expected them to turn me away with a 'we haven't done that in years' kind of thing. The service writer got the shop manager out and took one look at it, and just smiled. Turns out this guy's first car was also a '79 Scirocco, and he said he'd take care of it personally. Sure enough, at the end of the work week, I went to pick it back up, the work was done perfectly, and he wouldn't charge me. I showed him my car outside, and he regaled me with a few stories like how he used to be able to have a clutch out of these in 45 minutes.



      The block was recently painted -- I just cleaned it up with simple green and a toothbrush.



      Got it back together to the point where I started playing with V-belts. Since this car won't have power steering, but might someday have A/C (it IS Texas after all), I'm building this with the 16v's compressor. But the belts and pulleys won't work in its current config. I just bought a non p/s water pump pulley off eBay, and its related belt off Rockauto. Hopefully this works.



      All in all, I got a lot done today.

      Next up, get it off the stand, install clutch, bolt up the FN transmission and starter, and turn it over to check compression.
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      02-02-2020 12:22 PM #141
      Nice work!


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      02-02-2020 03:00 PM #142
      Quote Originally Posted by ArclitGold View Post
      Nice work!


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      02-08-2020 05:08 PM #143
      FN transmission - before:




      And after about 6 hours of work with simple green, brake cleaner, wire brushes and a toothbrush:




      Got the V-belt situation figured out by ordering a water pump pulley off eBay for a non-PS / w/AC A1 car. Got the 4-belt 16v situation down to two, so I'm happy. Didn't feel like getting into the serpentine conversion just yet.




      Got the motor ready to be hoisted back up on the lift and off the stand!




      Next steps are to get the clutch and (lightened!) flywheel on, so I can bolt up the transmission and starter to test engine compression. Once I'm feeling good about that, I order the new exhaust in from TT and start pulling the 1.6l and 4-spd transmission out so I can clean up the engine bay! Going to be a busy rest of this month, but the intent is to try and drive her up to Cincy.
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      02-14-2020 06:51 PM #144
      Trying to do a compression check on the new motor before it goes in the car. I have it out on a dolly, FN transmission connected and a new Mk4 diesel starter mounted. No exhaust manifold mounted. Fuel injectors installed.

      Tried two different gauges and getting the same results. Registering some compression while cranking but not holding the reading after I stop cranking.

      I took a video.

      https://youtu.be/DTZS8fxh_qM

      Am I missing something?
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    21. 02-15-2020 11:41 AM #145
      The compression tester should have a check valve that will allow the compression to go in, but not out. This valve usually looks like a tire schrader valve but has a weaker return spring. The valve located usually at the tip of the hose where it screws into the spark plug hole. I'm willing to bet that it's not there.

      Do not use a regular tire schrader valve unless you are trying to sell an engine. It will read way too low.

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      02-15-2020 01:03 PM #146
      Agree with Mark, it looks like the pressure is immediately bleeding off out of the gauge. My gauge has a release valve on the top of the gauge's casing which yours doesn't have, hopefully you have a valve on the hose like Mark mentionned and it's just stuck open.

      Hard to believe any engine could be that bad.
      It's hard for me to know exactly what these things cost me. I'm guessing a LOT, but I like them, so that's that.

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