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    1. 05-20-2018 08:07 PM #1
      Ok, I've seriously tried to look through lots of oil recommendations. I find lots of statements from folks about whats good and bad but very little in the way of actual lab reports or other data to back it up.

      Is there some place that collects lab reports for various oils for Volkswagen cars?

      Is there an FAQ or summation of the available lab reports to indicate what oils are good in what circumstances.

      In my case, I'm looking for the best oil to get 10k oil change interval with a 2017 Golf (MK7) Wolfsburg.


      I know 502 is the requirement.
      I'm trying to find comparative information regarding, Mobil 1 0w-40, Castrol Edge 5w-30 or 0w-40, any of many LiquiMoly 5w-30 or 5w-40 oils.

      Thanks

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      05-21-2018 07:06 PM #2
      I believe 505.1 is the spec for extended intervals. If I am wrong someone here will surely point that out. THIS covers both specs according to the TSB. Happy shopping.

    4. 05-22-2018 09:25 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Ichabod0525 View Post
      I believe 505.1 is the spec for extended intervals. If I am wrong someone here will surely point that out. THIS covers both specs according to the TSB. Happy shopping.
      505.01 is specifically intended for Diesel engines. I'm looking for oil for US gasoline engine. There are some extended OCI standards apply only to low sulfur gasoline, which the US does NOT have consistently.

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      05-23-2018 12:57 PM #4
      I can partially help you out in a direction that can better help you reach your end goal. I get my oil analysis done through www.blackstone-labs.com. Go on their website and request a free test kit. They charge you only when they test the oil for $28. The test results show the quantity of medals in your oil along with where they should be and national average. They do charge extra for TBN, but dont remember how much. Good luck!
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      05-23-2018 01:28 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Ichabod0525 View Post
      I believe 505.1 is the spec for extended intervals. If I am wrong someone here will surely point that out. THIS covers both specs according to the TSB. Happy shopping.
      503 standards is for flexible service intervals, up to 30,000 km.

      505 series is TDI and that's a fixed 10,000 mile interval. 505.01 is specific for Pumpe-Duse TDI engines, where the injector are individual pumps and driven off of the camshaft, so it would need extra wear protection. Effectiveness of 505.01 is debatable.

      Certain gas FSI applications though, did call for 505.01, such as the RS4 4.2L V8 FSI engine
      Last edited by BsickPassat; 05-23-2018 at 01:42 PM.
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      05-23-2018 01:28 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by nutsofast1.8T View Post
      I can partially help you out in a direction that can better help you reach your end goal. I get my oil analysis done through www.blackstone-labs.com. Go on their website and request a free test kit. They charge you only when they test the oil for $28. The test results show the quantity of medals in your oil along with where they should be and national average. They do charge extra for TBN, but dont remember how much. Good luck!
      iirc, $10 extra
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      05-23-2018 01:42 PM #7
      Back in the day, the top oil was Renewable Lubes Biosyn HD 5w40, as it produced better wear numbers. There was a plot of various Iron wear (but the original plot has site hosting issues)

      https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...topics/1173372

      And... not a 502.00 certified oil
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    10. 02-25-2019 11:22 AM #8
      Here's a report from Castrol Edge 0w-30 A3/B4 502 00 approved oil run for 5600 miles. Lots of life left.
      '17 GTI

    11. 03-27-2019 07:25 AM #9
      I have 2015 Passat 1,8 TSI. And I know that it is recommended to use 1,8 VAG SPECIAL PLUS SW40 but how about Castrol EDGE Professional Longlife III 5W30?

    12. 09-30-2019 02:51 AM #10
      MB 229.5 is the spec to look for. 502 is fine for an old 2.Slo or maybe a VR6, Basically an antiquated and obsolete spec.

      https://online.lubrizol.com/relperftool/pc.html

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      10-07-2019 04:17 AM #12
      Pheww... glad my LM/Kool Aid has 229.5.

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    15. 10-14-2019 02:31 AM #13
      Yeah, but you paid double for it.

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      10-17-2019 06:38 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by A.Junkie View Post
      Yeah, but you paid double for it.
      Accurate. I chose to spend my money as I see fit and tossing support to my favorite online Euro retailer for a $60 kit vs. $40 is money well spent.

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    17. 10-17-2019 07:15 PM #15


      2017 1.4 Jetta TSI
      Penzoil Platinum Euro 0w40 VW 502 and MB 229.5 spec.
      4,445 Mile oil change.
      Lots of short trips. Harsh ohio winters.
      Since the oil thinned down to a 30 weight, I plan on keeping my oil change intervals at no more than 5,000 miles or one year.

      I would say determining the type of daily commute you have is more important than trying to split hairs and figure out which oil will get you to 10k miles. If you do mostly easy highway mileage in a mild climate, then 10k oil changes may work fine on any 502 spec oil.
      If you have a more severe duty commute with short trips and harsh winters like I do, you will want to stick to the 5k oil changes.
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      10-18-2019 03:03 PM #16
      My latest. 6k in Liquimoly Leichtlauf 5W40. Usually go to 7.5ish. Changed early for Stage 2 IS20.

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