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      10-16-2019 05:39 PM #3276
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      anti-clockwise...look at the projected runoff.
      D'uh, I totally missed that. Thanks for the catch. Maybe it's not so bad then, since that right-hander leading onto the straight looks like a medium speed corner.

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      10-16-2019 06:02 PM #3277
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      Wonder how much it'll cost Miami to put the show on.
      I am going to guess.... about 400 million
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      10-16-2019 06:13 PM #3278
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      D'uh, I totally missed that. Thanks for the catch. Maybe it's not so bad then, since that right-hander leading onto the straight looks like a medium speed corner.
      You had it right the first time - it is anti (Counter)-clock wise, which makes them take that 90 degree left hander down the straight. Or am I dumb?

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      10-16-2019 06:46 PM #3279
      Quote Originally Posted by amusante1002 View Post
      You had it right the first time - it is anti (Counter)-clock wise, which makes them take that 90 degree left hander down the straight. Or am I dumb?
      No, originally I had assumed it was clockwise, which would have them, go through the hairpin, onto the straight, and then exit the straight into that 90 deg right hander. But as was pointed out to me, the runoff areas indicate that it's actually a counter-clockwise circuit, so they go through the 90 deg left hander and onto the straight, and the straight then leads into the left-hand hairpin. But I'm going off of little sleep last night, so I can be totally mixed up.

    6. 10-16-2019 06:56 PM #3280
      No you're right. See the red arrow on the left, It's ccw.

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      And I have my clocks backwards, It's clock-wise.

      In my defense I'm on my third Rickards Red
      Last edited by philf1fan2; 10-16-2019 at 07:21 PM.

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      10-16-2019 07:37 PM #3281
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      D'uh, I totally missed that. Thanks for the catch. Maybe it's not so bad then, since that right-hander leading onto the straight looks like a medium speed corner.

      So.....I was wrong, then sort of right, and then wrong again. I incorrectly said medium speed "right-hander leading onto the straight" when I meant to say a medium speed left-hander.

    8. 10-17-2019 07:02 AM #3282
      Sacre bleu, Renault is under investigation for an illegal braking system:

      Hours after the Japanese Grand Prix concluded, Racing Point handed a 12-page document to the FIA in which they claimed Renault are an illegal system.

      As F1 drivers have to adjust their own brake balance, the alleged Renault system would be illegal.

      Article 27.1 of the sport’s Sporting Regulations states drivers must “drive the car alone and unaided”.

      “It would be a big advantage … an automatic system controlled electronically could do it much better and faster than the driver can manually.”

      He added: “The suspicion must be reasonable, because it’s an unwritten rule that you don’t accuse another team of something like that unless you’re 100 per cent sure.

      “If they’re right, it’s a catastrophe for Renault."

      http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._found_guilty/

      The main issue Ricciardo had after switching to Renault was the braking, he couldn't go as deep into a corner as he did with the Red Bull car. At Suzuka Ricciardo was back to his field blazing shelf.

      Makes you wonder if Red Bull has something and whether or not Ricciardo brought it over to Renault.

    9. 10-17-2019 07:16 AM #3283
      Because somebody has to sell a book and Renault is under investigation an article about Michael Schumacher's 1994 championship brings it back out into the light.

      Senna had retired on the opening lap of the previous race in Japan, and before returning to the pits, stood trackside to observe his rivals, becoming suspicious about the legality of his main rival’s car after hearing the engine note under braking.

      “Senna himself was convinced that there was something different about Schumacher’s car,” former Williams team manager Ian Harrison told Autosport in 2014.

      The suspicions gained further credibility in 2011, when Schumacher’s teammate from 1994, Jos Verstappen, claimed the German was using banned electronic driving aids

      An independent analysis of the source code revealed Benetton had software “capable of breaching the regulations,” and although the team admitted the existence of the code, it claimed it was redundant and could not be activated by Schumacher

      https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/moto...wKl?li=AAgg0Zv

      *So put your tin foil hat on and play "Degrees Of Jos Verstappen", Jos learned from Benetton, Jos then schooled Red Bull, Ricciardo took it to Renault

      *no, I don't really believe that

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      10-17-2019 07:21 AM #3284
      Quote Originally Posted by Burnette View Post

      The suspicions gained further credibility in 2011, when Schumacher’s teammate from 1994, Jos Verstappen, claimed the German was using banned electronic driving aids
      Someone should just go ask Michael Schumacher and get a straight answer.
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      10-17-2019 07:54 AM #3285
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Someone should just go ask Michael Schumacher and get a straight answer.
      It would probably be more straight forward than what Flavio would tell you....

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      10-17-2019 08:56 AM #3286
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      No, originally I had assumed it was clockwise, which would have them, go through the hairpin, onto the straight, and then exit the straight into that 90 deg right hander. But as was pointed out to me, the runoff areas indicate that it's actually a counter-clockwise circuit, so they go through the 90 deg left hander and onto the straight, and the straight then leads into the left-hand hairpin. But I'm going off of little sleep last night, so I can be totally mixed up.
      aha, I misunderstood the hairpin part. I thought when you said hairpin, you were referring to the 90 deg turn, so we were both right

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      10-17-2019 11:45 AM #3287
      Quote Originally Posted by BluMagic View Post
      renders look like the track direction is counter clockwise, with a hard left and almost a hairpin right immediately after the start. Wonder what the track limits will be like. Either way should make for some decent midfield bumper car racing.

      Also wonder how wind around the stadium will effect cars/drivers as well
      Just like Montreal, but on a slightly larger scale.
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    14. 10-17-2019 12:22 PM #3288
      Looks like teams are turning into beeyotchs and snitches:

      A number of Ferrari's Formula 1 rivals have written to the FIA for clarity over the legality of design aspects they believe are behind the Italian team's engine advantage.

      Motorsport.com understands that Ferrari's competitors are seeking clarification over whether they are clear to pursue similar concepts themselves or if the ideas fall foul of the regulations.

      The requests have come after Ferrari's recent performance breakthrough revealed the full extent of its engine advantage, which is believed to be worth up to 0.8 seconds at some tracks and has been described as 'ludicrous' by one high-level team source.

      One theory relates to Ferrari's intercooler and how a controlled leak may allow a small amount of oil to enter the combustion process, and produce a power boost for a short period of time.

      Using oil in the intercooler, which Ferrari is thought to be alone in utilising, is permitted by the regulations, although the rules demand that such systems "must not intentionally make use of the latent heat of vaporisation of any fluid with the exception of fuel for the normal purpose of combustion in the engine".

      It also stated it has "received no protest from any competitor regarding any current designs".

      The lack of a response from the FIA to specific correspondence has left Ferrari's rivals uncertain about how to proceed.

      https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...s-fia/4559167/

      So they're not trying to get Ferrari to stop they just want to do it too, maybe because they think they can do it better

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      10-17-2019 09:46 PM #3289
      Quote Originally Posted by n0rdicalex. View Post
      Miami GP for 2021:



      https://jalopnik.com/f1-strikes-prel...ami-1839071419

      at least something will win at that stadium.

      There’s a winner there every single Sunday.
      shut your mouth. sh sh shut your mouth.

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      10-18-2019 10:28 AM #3290
      Quote Originally Posted by n0rdicalex. View Post
      Miami GP for 2021:



      https://jalopnik.com/f1-strikes-prel...ami-1839071419

      at least something will win at that stadium.
      Haven't we already tried that?


      https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2003/03...3321047140069/

      They had a 10 year agreement to race in a stadium parking lot. Circuit was garbage, locals were pissed. They only did it for one year.



      and.. WTF are those boats doing in the parking lot of the Hard Rock Stadium?

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      10-18-2019 11:45 AM #3291
      Quote Originally Posted by Woodski View Post
      Just like Montreal, but on a slightly larger scale.
      thats a good comparison. The more i look at that kind-of-chicane (turn 3 & 4?) after the long sweeping right. It could be interesting there, if someone gets the outside entering they have the inside line in the next two turns.

      i can't really come up with anything good to say about the other end of the course, it looks low speed with difficult passing and benefit faster cars on the final straight

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      10-18-2019 12:17 PM #3292
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Haven't we already tried that?


      https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2003/03...3321047140069/

      They had a 10 year agreement to race in a stadium parking lot. Circuit was garbage, locals were pissed. They only did it for one year.



      and.. WTF are those boats doing in the parking lot of the Hard Rock Stadium?

      I wonder if they considered doing it at Sebring. I guess they would have to repave the whole thing though

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      10-18-2019 12:32 PM #3293
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Haven't we already tried that?
      Yes, in New Jersey. Where this Miami plan is right now (...contract "in principal" only) is exactly where NJ was in 2012/13. How'd that work out, other than Seb driving the RB around the NJ track one time?

      I'll believe it when I see it, as it would be 2 yrs away best case and another race would need to come off for this once all the council signatures are inked and the $$ changes hands.

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      10-18-2019 12:32 PM #3294
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      and.. WTF are those boats doing in the parking lot of the Hard Rock Stadium?
      Seriously... Who the hell added boats to the parking lot?





      There is going to be one confused harbormaster come race week.


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      10-18-2019 02:44 PM #3295
      Selfishly speaking, they should have just gone back to doing the Long Beach GP. Indycar is great, but I'd love to see F1 at Long Beach.

      It would be in a relatively dense city, with multiple airports, and the extra influx of people wouldn't even be noticed as far as traffic goes.

      And it would be cheap and easy for a few of us to get to.

      /selfish rant.

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      10-18-2019 02:47 PM #3296
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Seriously... Who the hell added boats to the parking lot?


      There is going to be one confused harbormaster come race week.
      Watch them paint the ground blue and park some boats there to make it look good on TV. Extra points if they use alligator kerbs in lieu of sausage kerbs.

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      10-18-2019 03:02 PM #3297
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      Watch them paint the ground blue and park some boats there to make it look good on TV. Extra points if they use alligator kerbs in lieu of sausage kerbs.
      Sorry folks, harbor is full. Need to go anchor out on 27th Avenue.


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      10-18-2019 03:10 PM #3298
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      Selfishly speaking, they should have just gone back to doing the Long Beach GP. Indycar is great, but I'd love to see F1 at Long Beach.

      It would be in a relatively dense city, with multiple airports, and the extra influx of people wouldn't even be noticed as far as traffic goes.

      And it would be cheap and easy for a few of us to get to.

      /selfish rant.
      Uber to an F1 race? Yes please.

      Though I'm not sure how good of an overtaking track it'll be. Admittedly haven't paid too much attention to the previous Grand Prix races there.

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      10-18-2019 03:43 PM #3299
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      Selfishly speaking
      Well, I think Michelin should prep Road Atlanta for F1.
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      10-18-2019 03:49 PM #3300
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Well, I think Michelin should prep Road Atlanta for F1.
      Well, I was selfish first, so if my 1st grade logic is correct, I think Long Beach gets it.

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