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    1. 11-25-2018 01:47 AM #1
      I have a '17 Golf Sportwagen.

      I had my most recent oil change done at a non-VW dealer, and provided my own oil, filter, and drain plug.

      I've discovered I didn't do enough reading, and the oil that is presently in the car is the correct weight and viscosity, but does not meet the VW 502 standard.

      I'm assuming I'll probably be ok to drive this thing for a few hundred miles until I can get the right oil and get everything drained and refilled, but I just wanted to see what the crowd here thought.

      For what it's worth, it's presently running Mobil 1 5W30 Extended Performance, which will see well less than a thousand miles of use before it's changed again.

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    3. 11-25-2018 01:53 AM #2
      I have done the same, with the same and never had an issue. In fact, once past warranty dates, that's all I put in and have gotten over 200K on one Jetta.
      You may hear a lot of other responses to the contrary, but I can assure you - a single use of this oil is most definitely NOT going to cause you issue


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    4. 11-26-2018 09:53 AM #3
      By having the right oil, it allows you to go the full distance on an oil service. Since you put the wrong oil in it, just do not go the full distance. I would not go more than half what the right oil allows you to go.

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      11-29-2018 01:31 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
      By having the right oil, it allows you to go the full distance on an oil service. Since you put the wrong oil in it, just do not go the full distance. I would not go more than half what the right oil allows you to go.
      5w30 Extended Performance has TBN of 9-10 range. The minimum for 502.00 is 7.

      The HTHS is less than 3.5 mPa, so, you'll exchange some wear protection for improved fuel economy.

      I'd be more concerned about oil change interval if a 504/507 oil was used.
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      12-11-2018 06:21 PM #5
      Keep an eye out on the oil level as well, VW seems to be a picky bunch when it comes to oil quality, my MK7 ate oil with couple of brands i had before Total Eneos 5w30 and Mobil1 0W40, but doesnt eat a drop of the Castrol Edge 0W40 i mostly been running since new. I have no idea on why, the flash point of those is pretty much the same rating as the Castol Edge, but then again its the brand that's factory filled so im sticking to it.
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    8. 02-25-2019 11:07 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post
      5w30 Extended Performance has TBN of 9-10 range. The minimum for 502.00 is 7.

      The HTHS is less than 3.5 mPa, so, you'll exchange some wear protection for improved fuel economy.

      I'd be more concerned about oil change interval if a 504/507 oil was used.
      Since all gasoline in the US is low sulfur since January 2017, 504 can be used for a full interval. 2019 and some 2018's reflect this with the under-hood sticker.

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      02-25-2019 12:57 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Huntermike View Post
      Since all gasoline in the US is low sulfur since January 2017, 504 can be used for a full interval. 2019 and some 2018's reflect this with the under-hood sticker.
      Not technically correct. EPA did mandate the 10 ppm average sulfur in 2017, but it takes time for individual states to come into compliance.

      Also remember, it's average. So you will have samples of higher than 10 ppm and samples lower than 10 ppm that should bring it into compliance of the EPA law. So, with who know's what ppm of sulfur going into your tank, it's extremely variable the results of the UOA's.

      You would think in CA, they would be at the forefront of the 10 ppm average gasoline to the consumers, but they haven't updated their specification for their gasoline since 2014.
      https://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/gasoline.htm
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      10-03-2019 05:06 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post

      I'd be more concerned about oil change interval if a 504/507 oil was used.
      I'm curious to know why ?!

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      10-03-2019 05:11 PM #9
      For the OP, the european specifications are a lot driven by specific additives that won't harm emission system and sensors used in european cars. Using an non-european lubricant won't compromise engine protection wear-wise, but may compromise emission sensors integrity/reliability. However, I doubt that it could do harm in a single oil change. I would advise to shorten the next drain interval.

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      10-07-2019 03:40 AM #10
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      10-17-2019 11:48 PM #11
      I’ve been using Supertech(Walmart) 5w30 full syn with a $5 filter from Autozone in my ‘16 Tig. Let the flames begin! Over 100k miles no issues and the engine purs smooth and great. I change it every 5-6k for $20. I wouldn’t worry about it.

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      10-17-2019 11:52 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by jnmarshall View Post
      I’ve been using Supertech(Walmart) 5w30 full syn with a $5 filter from Autozone in my ‘16 Tig. Let the flames begin! Over 100k miles no issues and the engine purs smooth and great. I change it every 5-6k for $20. I wouldn’t worry about it.
      It’s not all bad I mean the Walmart 5w30 is made by Pennzoil probably not a bad oil considering Sopus packs it for them. If it works for you good for you. I use factory filters and 0w40 Castrol (German one) when it’s on sale for $4.99 a qt. I too have 100k on my 2015 gsw 5MT and runs great I been using that oil since new.
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      10-20-2019 09:50 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by MK7_JSW View Post
      It’s not all bad I mean the Walmart 5w30 is made by Pennzoil probably not a bad oil considering Sopus packs it for them. If it works for you good for you. I use factory filters and 0w40 Castrol (German one) when it’s on sale for $4.99 a qt. I too have 100k on my 2015 gsw 5MT and runs great I been using that oil since new.
      I’ve used the Castrol 40 weight for German’s. It made the engine chatter and seem to labor to make power. I picked up some new Castrol 5-30 that’s suppose to be good for 20k. If it works well I’ll go 10k on it and save a little extra on my maintenance costs.

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