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      12-17-2018 08:11 PM #51
      Don't let someone steal the H, that's how people know its a Honda. Its the car for the man that realizes a car is for more than driving from point A to point B, and then C on the weekends.

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      12-17-2018 08:44 PM #52
      Wow. So many replies.

      Answers to some of the questions that have been asked:

      I'm not planning on rebuilding the carb myself. I bought the car to up my mechanic skills, but rebuilding this crazy carb isn't where I planned on starting. Mostly I just bought it because it was awesome.
      There's a couple of mechanic shops I drive past daily that seem to have classic cars moving through them fairly often, so I'll probably start there.
      My normal mechanic said he wouldn't touch it.

      I may end up with no choice but to do the Weber conversion.

      I showed the pictures to a guy at work who is really into Hondas. He said to bring it to his shop and he'd help me put a B16 in it. That'd be pretty fun.

      I have no idea how it made it this far looking as good as it does. I believe the couple I bought it from said they bought it used in 1983. It was the wife's daily driver. They're retired now, but she was still driving it. The license plates in the pictures are the ones that were on it when I bought it. It was still registered.

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      12-17-2018 08:54 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Very nice to see a proper size Accord. Even the Civic now has larger dimensions than the original Accord.

      2018 Civic 177-183″ L x 71″ W x 55-57″ H

      1979 Accord 163.2 L 63.8 W 52.6 H
      For comparison:

      2018 Fit 162" L 67" W 60" H

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      12-17-2018 08:55 PM #54
      I had a white '84 base 5-speed sedan with blue interior - it's the car that made me love Hondas. It was so modern compared to everything else out there - by '84 it had a 12-valve engine (86 horsepower) and would smoothly and willingly rev out to almost 6500 RPM without running out of breath.

      I was always casually looking for an SE-i (fuel injected, bumped power to like 102 hp) but I never could find a nice one.

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      12-17-2018 09:36 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by ImpeccableNEW View Post
      This could be your friend and only 10.95 on ebay
      https://www.ebay.com/i/123525195751?chn=ps
      Purchased!

      Between this, the Haynes manual I bought, and the Chilton manual that I found in car, I should be able to figure out at least the basics.

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      12-18-2018 03:25 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Mugen was much like Oettinger at the time. Both of them tried some really cool, innovative stuff to get power out of such small displacement engines. Much of those Mugen parts are like Oettinger parts, where if they pop up for-sale somewhere, they are gone before the posting is even made.
      I could see that. Man, that'd be awesome, but awesome has a big price tag. Sigh.

      Oh, and in the air-cooled days it was Okrasa, but it's the same company.
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      12-18-2018 03:32 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by Mag-X View Post
      I'm not planning on rebuilding the carb myself. I bought the car to up my mechanic skills, but rebuilding this crazy carb isn't where I planned on starting. Mostly I just bought it because it was awesome.
      There's a couple of mechanic shops I drive past daily that seem to have classic cars moving through them fairly often, so I'll probably start there.
      My normal mechanic said he wouldn't touch it.
      Good. You need someone who knows those carbs. Most of the car is basic and easy to figure out, but those carbs (and if memory serves part of the ignition system) is wonky and you need to try to find someone who knows what they're doing. In the midwest that was a tall order when these cars weren't too old, but now? Crickets.


      Quote Originally Posted by Mag-X View Post
      I may end up with no choice but to do the Weber conversion.

      I showed the pictures to a guy at work who is really into Hondas. He said to bring it to his shop and he'd help me put a B16 in it. That'd be pretty fun.
      No and no!!


      Quote Originally Posted by Mag-X View Post
      Purchased!

      Between this, the Haynes manual I bought, and the Chilton manual that I found in car, I should be able to figure out at least the basics.
      Good.
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      12-18-2018 03:34 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Oh, and in the air-cooled days it was Okrasa, but it's the same company.
      That's cool, I never knew that! (not that I ever have had or will have any of that stuff)
      PRESS HARD; YOU ARE MAKING 4 COPIES.

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      12-18-2018 03:44 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Oh, and in the air-cooled days it was Okrasa, but it's the same company.
      Back in the mid-90s when Nopi was a VW-specific shop, and the Nopi Nationals was a VW show, you'd see tons of Okrasa stuff for sale.
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      12-18-2018 03:59 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Good. You need someone who knows those carbs. Most of the car is basic and easy to figure out, but those carbs (and if memory serves part of the ignition system) is wonky and you need to try to find someone who knows what they're doing. In the midwest that was a tall order when these cars weren't too old, but now? Crickets.

      The pre-combustion chamber part was pretty cool with the ability to ignite a lean mixture. A good friend/mentor had one that we tinkered with here and there just for the hell of it, some crazy Russian guy drove it from Salt Lake City to W.Mass for $800 delivered off Craigslist. He had this grand idea of copying the idea over to his 350ci Suburban, got at far as getting another carb/head and some solid modeling done. Regretfully he passed away last spring
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      12-18-2018 04:05 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post
      He had this grand idea of copying the idea over to his 350ci Suburban, got at far as getting another carb/head and some solid modeling done. Regretfully he passed away last spring
      Mr. Honda did this w/ GM in the 1970s and GM laughed at Honda at the time.

      https://jalopnik.com/when-honda-gave...771/1732884555
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      12-18-2018 04:11 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by MGQ View Post
      That's cool, I never knew that! (not that I ever have had or will have any of that stuff)
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Back in the mid-90s when Nopi was a VW-specific shop, and the Nopi Nationals was a VW show, you'd see tons of Okrasa stuff for sale.
      Yep, same company. OKRASA was short for "Oettingers kraftfahrttechnische Spezialanstalt". Yes, I had to look that up.


      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post
      The pre-combustion chamber part was pretty cool with the ability to ignite a lean mixture. A good friend/mentor had one that we tinkered with here and there just for the hell of it, some crazy Russian guy drove it from Salt Lake City to W.Mass for $800 delivered off Craigslist. He had this grand idea of copying the idea over to his 350ci Suburban, got at far as getting another carb/head and some solid modeling done. Regretfully he passed away last spring
      Honda did that! <--- Click that link to get your nerd on. They built a Chevy 350 with CVCC heads and yeah, it passed emission standards with flying colors.

      To absent friends.


      Here's a nice cutaway with some of the basics of how CVCC works.

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      12-18-2018 04:24 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by adrew View Post
      I had a white '84 base 5-speed sedan with blue interior - it's the car that made me love Hondas. It was so modern compared to everything else out there - by '84 it had a 12-valve engine (86 horsepower) and would smoothly and willingly rev out to almost 6500 RPM without running out of breath.

      I was always casually looking for an SE-i (fuel injected, bumped power to like 102 hp) but I never could find a nice one.

      Mine
      My high school girlfriend learned how to drive on an SE-i manual. She hated it. I loved it. Her Dad ended up selling it and getting her a Volvo 850 instead. I wanted her to keep driving the awesome old Honda.
      Driving While Awesome Podcast. Give it a listen.
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      12-19-2018 10:02 AM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Yep, same company. OKRASA was short for "Oettingers kraftfahrttechnische Spezialanstalt". Yes, I had to look that up.




      Honda did that! <--- Click that link to get your nerd on. They built a Chevy 350 with CVCC heads and yeah, it passed emission standards with flying colors.

      To absent friends.


      Here's a nice cutaway with some of the basics of how CVCC works.

      Thanks for the link!
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      12-19-2018 10:07 AM #65
      I"m not going to lie, I came in here thinking "who gives a crap" but after seeing the pictures... Not bad.
      iain

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      12-19-2018 10:26 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post
      Thanks for the link!
      You're welcome!


      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      I"m not going to lie, I came in here thinking "who gives a crap" but after seeing the pictures... Not bad.
      Who? That'd be me, even if it weren't such an exceptional survivor. These cars have been gone for decades in the midwest.
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      12-19-2018 10:56 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post
      Thanks for the link!
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      You're welcome!
      It was also posted above yours too.
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      12-19-2018 11:22 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      It was also posted above yours too.


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      12-19-2018 11:22 AM #69
      OP's new avatar should be this thumbnail:



      Typical forum guy with busted third-hand cars.
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      12-19-2018 11:34 AM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      It was also posted above yours too.
      Sorry, I missed that. You need to use 8X10 glossy photographs with circles and arrows. (Let's see if anyone gets that reference.)

      Quote Originally Posted by TheDeckMan View Post


      Everyone needs some love around the holidays it seems
      Indeed.
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      12-19-2018 01:51 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Metallitubby View Post
      Mugen was much like Oettinger at the time. Both of them tried some really cool, innovative stuff to get power out of such small displacement engines. Much of those Mugen parts are like Oettinger parts, where if they pop up for-sale somewhere, they are gone before the posting is even made.
      I worked at the NorCal Honda DC back in the early 90's. I think I was the only person there that knew what Mugen was. They had several sea containers worth of parts, I used to log into the system to find them in the vast expanse of the center just so I could gawk at them. I had all sorts of literature and swag. I used to chuckle at the "not approved for California" even though they were sold right over the counter at the dealership - I knew a couple people with the awesome Tri-Y headers on a CRX and Integra.

      Sometime in the mid-90's, they started destroying the parts since they didn't sell. I remember crying in horror as they took sawzalls to all the beautiful 13" turbine wheels.

      I had fun back then, I was going to college and worked there part-time for almost 3 years. Around the same time I met a guy that was a fabricator for Comptech. We started taking Mugen/F1 etc., he was impressed I knew so much about the brand, he had something to show me at his house. Mugen evidently started out with motocross bikes and shifter carts. He had a Mugen powered shifter cart at his house. Good times.

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      12-19-2018 02:55 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by Dal97GLX View Post
      He had a Mugen powered shifter cart at his house. Good times.
      I run the American Honda Karting team (single-speed) and I can tell you that Mugen's stuff still exists, but under another Honda-branded company.
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      12-19-2018 03:17 PM #73
      OP - very nice find. My mom converted from VWs to Hondas in 1978 when she bought a new one and she's been a Honda-only owner ever since. We owned that '78 for 9 yrs/100K+ hard miles.

      Over the summer I remembered one on BaT near where Metallitubby is.

      https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-honda-accord-2/

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      12-19-2018 03:19 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by tbvvw View Post
      Over the summer I remembered one on BaT near where Metallitubby is.
      Wow, that one is very close to where I live too.
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      12-19-2018 03:21 PM #75
      OMG. First car I ever bought back in high school!
      Brings back memories!


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