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      02-02-2019 12:22 AM #51
      Is it possible to over rev a PDK version of this?
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      02-02-2019 12:40 AM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Tommietank View Post
      Is it possible to over rev a PDK version of this?
      I can't speak for a Porsche but VWs will not let the driver over rev with DSG with factory software.

      A VW will automatically upshift at predetermined limits. I have never bought aftermarket DSG software. I assume that aftermarket software would just bounce on the rev limiter in manual mode and not allow an over rev event. The DSG will not downshift to the next gear until it determines it is safe to do so. Click all you want and downshift happen until it's safe.

      An over rev event could be a concern with Kiznash's car since it's a manual. PDK not so much.

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      02-02-2019 12:44 AM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by Just another GTI View Post
      I can't speak for a Porsche but VWs will not let the driver over rev with DSG with factory software.

      A VW will automatically upshift at predetermined limits. I have never bought aftermarket DSG software. I assume that aftermarket software would just bounce on the rev limiter in manual mode and not allow an over rev event. The DSG will not downshift to the next gear until it determines it is safe to do so. Click all you want and downshift happen until it's safe.

      An over rev event could be a concern with Kiznash's car since it's a manual. PDK not so much.
      Fun fact -

      The GMT800 trucks 1999-2006 GM trucks will upshift as well.

      Even if you put the column shifter in 1 or 2, if you floor it and hold RPM’s for a few seconds it’ll start shifting through the gears like you’ve got it in drive.

      Makes sense, especially when they were under warranty.
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      02-02-2019 10:46 AM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Fun fact -

      The GMT800 trucks 1999-2006 GM trucks will upshift as well.

      Even if you put the column shifter in 1 or 2, if you floor it and hold RPM’s for a few seconds it’ll start shifting through the gears like you’ve got it in drive.

      Makes sense, especially when they were under warranty.
      Will it? I had my truck in 2nd and I let off at 5500-5600rpm because it seemed like it definitely wasn't going to
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      02-02-2019 12:08 PM #55
      Am I the only one who's *not* disappointed you didn't buy the amg? I definitely think you made the better choice. Even if it wasn't that much of a choice...
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      02-02-2019 01:23 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Tommietank View Post
      Is it possible to over rev a PDK version of this?
      Sure, it's possible, but it's unlikely. My understanding is that it will bounce off the rev limiter without up-shifting, but won't let you downshift if there aren't enough revs to do so.

      I would think the wheels would need to be off the ground for an over-rev situation.

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      02-02-2019 11:51 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by OrdinaryGirl View Post
      Am I the only one who's *not* disappointed you didn't buy the amg? I definitely think you made the better choice. Even if it wasn't that much of a choice...
      Oh I'm pretty sure no one was disappointed. Well, except maybe the dealer GM.

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      02-03-2019 01:22 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by kiznarsh View Post
      Oh I'm pretty sure no one was disappointed. Well, except maybe the dealer GM.
      Lol tough titties to his bonus check! I'm pretty sure you got the superior automobile. Good choice I'd be lying if I said I wasn't even a tiny bit jealous - I don't commute anymore so driving is a treat for me these days, and that tdi.... She's a slug.
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      02-04-2019 03:15 AM #59
      Now that the introduction is over, let's get to it.

      I was told the bumper holes were "already there" but the line item on the invoice indicating 4 screws makes me wanna throw the flag.



      Even though there are some rock chips on the bumper cover, it's nowhere near bad enough to make me want to fill in the holes and respray it, especially since this is my daily so I ordered plugs.



      Drilled out the holes to 9/32nd...



      ...and there ya go.



      Next item was the clutch and how stiff it is. A friend told me how his buddy's 986 clutch spring broke and it became really tight, so I got in everyone's favorite awkward position to look up and nope, no issues with the spring (wrapped around a white piece). Doing more research revealed this is just how it is, unless the clutch is near the end (unlikely at only 7k miles old). Of course as I type all this, I'm totally used to it now.



      I was getting the "service due" reminder but wanted to clear it since they had just done an oil change. This aspect of the Durametric software doesn't work on the 987s so I had to do it the old-fashioned way: pull the instrument cluster fuse for a bit.



      Then I decided to change out the air filters and replace the serpentine belt since it wasn't documented anywhere.

      Carpet removed.



      Engine cover gone. 'tis dusty but I'm gonna hold off on cleaning the bay for now.



      OK fine I did clean the air filter cover.





      Getting the new filter to seat on the flange was tricky, until it wasn't, nomsayin'?



      Now to the frunk and the cabin air filter.





      While there, I used a coax cable to clear out the drain holes.



      Now shifting gears to the belt. Aluminum handle bar removed (2 T45 screws).



      Then one T20 screw for the plastic cover, which then snaps off.



      Carpet removed revealing the other engine cover.



      Of course they're 10mm bolts.



      Access is...tight.



      However, either the belt is super resilient or it's already been replaced once, and fairly recently too. Just look at it.





      So it looks like I'll be returning the belt I got but while I was in there, I pulled on the tensioner to see how it feels. Felt good, man.



      Inspected the power steering fluid. Hard to see but it looked tired and didn't smell very sweet. I'll have to look into it but guessing sucking out the old fluid is my best option. I did see a little seepage at the PS pump connection but I don't know yet how easily addressing that is going to be.



      Applied a little silicone to the rubber gasket on the engine cover to keep it fresh.



      Not sure how this cap got lost, but it's back now.



      Last week I got the "refill washer fluid" message and without paying attention to its capacity, I added a mixture comprised of distilled water and the concentrated Porsche washer fluid that I kept. I stopped when it started to overflow from the filler neck and some poured through the fender liner down to the ground. Whoops. But then I noticed puddles for the next 2 days underneath where the reservoir sits and remembered that I accidentally bottomed out on a dip when going a bit too fast on an unfamiliar street. So I thought maybe I had cracked the reservoir or jarred something loose.

      Took off the wheel and fender liner for an inspection.



      Bump stop's tired of bumpin'.



      Here's the reservoir. Everything looked fine, there's still fluid in there and I didn't see any leaks from the pump gasket.



      Then I noticed this overflow hose at the top, which is below the level of the filler neck, so driving around must've caused all the excess to overflow. I guess I'll find out. Capacity is only 0.66 gal/2.5 liters in case it comes up on Jeopardy.



      Also realized the filler hose comes out which makes positioning the reservoir a lot easier. Nice.


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      02-04-2019 10:16 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by kiznarsh View Post

      Lower it!

      I would like to hear what you think about this 987.2 Cayman compared to your 981 Cayman S. When I bought my 981 GTS, I was also considering a 987.2 Cayman S but couldn't find anything decent at a fair price. I think the recession really put a damper on sales of them over the years.

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      02-04-2019 10:45 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by kiznarsh View Post
      I was getting the "service due" reminder but wanted to clear it since they had just done an oil change. This aspect of the Durametric software doesn't work on the 987s so I had to do it the old-fashioned way: pull the instrument cluster fuse for a bit.
      I had this same issue with my "Enthusiast" Durametric, but I hadn't thought of the fuse-pull hack. Thanks for that tip!

      Looks like you're getting her all squared away, well done!

      As for the power steering pump, I blew up a couple of mine (track use) before the addition of an under drive pulley and an inline power steering cooler from LN engineering. I assume you're not hearing any whine from the system when turning hard at this point?

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      02-04-2019 11:27 AM #62
      This is the exact same spec as my old Cayman. If it weren't for the front plate, I'd swear that's my old car.
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      02-04-2019 11:39 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Lower it!

      I would like to hear what you think about this 987.2 Cayman compared to your 981 Cayman S. When I bought my 981 GTS, I was also considering a 987.2 Cayman S but couldn't find anything decent at a fair price. I think the recession really put a damper on sales of them over the years.
      It absolutely did. The .2 987/997 cars are rare as hen's teeth thanks to that.

    15. 02-04-2019 11:45 AM #64
      Not a fan of the Pioneer unit or the aftermarket Fogs. Also not a fan of base model Caymans. Oh well.

    16. 02-04-2019 12:00 PM #65
      I've come to the same conclusion as the OP- when it came to the 987.2, even the base model has more power (265) than the 986S. They're light enough (3000 lbs.) that the power is plenty to have a real sweet driving package without feeling underpowered.

      It seems like most of the 2009-12 Porsches are pretty hard to come by, sales numbers must be very low for the 987.2/997.2 cars.

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      02-04-2019 01:20 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Lower it!

      I would like to hear what you think about this 987.2 Cayman compared to your 981 Cayman S. When I bought my 981 GTS, I was also considering a 987.2 Cayman S but couldn't find anything decent at a fair price. I think the recession really put a damper on sales of them over the years.
      It will be lowered eventually and likely just with springs.

      I'd give the 981 the advantages of styling (esp the interior), handling (though mine had the sport suspension so not a fair comparison), & exhaust tone.

      987.2 wins in the steering & engagement categories. It also seems more DIY-friendly.

      I can see myself becoming more attached to it as I slowly make it mine. And with no sport/sport plus buttons, it feels more like a traditional sports car with an engine that seems more comfortable at high revs.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      I had this same issue with my "Enthusiast" Durametric, but I hadn't thought of the fuse-pull hack. Thanks for that tip!

      Looks like you're getting her all squared away, well done!

      As for the power steering pump, I blew up a couple of mine (track use) before the addition of an under drive pulley and an inline power steering cooler from LN engineering. I assume you're not hearing any whine from the system when turning hard at this point?
      Pulling the fuse is now mentioned in the software in one of those "information" windows...they've given up.

      No whine from the pump right now. There's a very slight vibration at full lock which is considered normal according to the manual.

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      02-04-2019 01:28 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by kiznarsh View Post
      I'd give the 981 the advantages of styling (esp the interior), handling (though mine had the sport suspension so not a fair comparison), & exhaust tone.
      Personally, I love the sound of my 987.1 with the Tubi exhaust. Check the video out at this website that sells the Tubi for your car:

      https://flat6motorsports.com/product...cayman-boxster


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      02-04-2019 01:55 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by JustPassingBy View Post
      Not a fan of the Pioneer unit or the aftermarket Fogs. Also not a fan of base model Caymans. Oh well.
      Good thing it's not your money, then. And you can move on from this thread.

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      02-04-2019 02:33 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Personally, I love the sound of my 987.1 with the Tubi exhaust.
      Yeah I remember watching some of your other videos with the Tubi...sounds pretty solid.

      I've noticed some aftermarket options completely change the sound character to the point where it doesn't sound like a Porsche anymore. The AWE is another option I've looked at, but realistically won't be doing this mod for a while unless I find a really good deal on a used one.

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      02-04-2019 06:10 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Numbersix View Post
      Good thing it's not your money, then. And you can move on from this thread.
      Don't mind him, he's just passing by.


      This thread is really starting to deliver! Love the photos of the internal workings of the 987. And bumper plugs---I didn't know these even existed. I book marked these as I have the same issue on the M3.

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      02-04-2019 06:37 PM #71
      How many miles on the water pump? My mechanic recommends changing them out on P-Cars at 60k, though he said mine looked healthy when he did a post-purchase inspection on mine at about that mark.

      No Sport button?

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      02-04-2019 06:39 PM #72
      +1 for Dave's exhaust, and whatever witchcraft has been applied to the suspension on his...
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      02-04-2019 07:03 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by kiznarsh View Post
      Pulling the fuse is now mentioned in the software in one of those "information" windows...they've given up.

      No whine from the pump right now. There's a very slight vibration at full lock which is considered normal according to the manual.
      I bought a Foxwell NT520 Pro for the oil reset, but it doesn't do it. Now it's an expense DME report reader.

      Can you elaborate on the fuse trick?

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      02-04-2019 07:09 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by SLVRon View Post
      +1 for Dave's exhaust, and whatever witchcraft has been applied to the suspension on his...
      As for the witchcraft, unfortunately, TPC Racing no longer sells the suspension for the 987.1. It was their highest level upgrade (prior owner put in on there) and it was called the "Stage 4 Suspension" and it included JRZ RS Pro Adjustable Dampers, TPC Racing Adjustable Sway Bars, TPC Racing Adjustable Toe Links, and TPC Racing Adjustable Drop Links.

      For kiznarsh, I think the PSS9 Billstein coilover setup would be great! Adjustable height, better dampers, etc. Add GT3 adjustable sway bar with drop links and adjustable toe links, then GT3 lower control arms (to shim for more negative camber), get a good alignment specialist to dial it in and the Cayman handles as well as anything on the road at 5x the price

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      02-04-2019 07:15 PM #75
      We still gotta swap keys Dave, and find an empty road. The only time I drove your Cayman I felt like I was driving through the Tour De France.
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