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    1. 02-10-2019 12:53 PM #1
      According to Driving.ca the take rate for manual trans Alltracks and Sportwagens in Canada is 40%. Far surpassing VW's forecast of 25%. https://driving.ca/volkswagen/auto-n...an-it-expected

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      02-10-2019 01:18 PM #2
      40% . Not bad. I’m guessing it’s less than 10% here in the USA.

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      02-10-2019 01:22 PM #3
      Awesome! I did my part by getting my Alltrack with 6mt.

      The fact that the 6mt is cheaper to buy and operate could be a big factor as well. Lots of frugal Canadians out there,

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      02-10-2019 01:50 PM #4
      Good deal, there's still hope for a manual renaissance. Thank you Canada.
      If you live where it snows and gets slick & snow packed it's only smart. You have so much more control over your car with a manual gear box in those conditions. Any really. Why the automakers are abandoning the manuals is beyond me. We had an automatic transmission car that even in neutral it would creep and in icy conditions that sucks. There are still loads of people out there that prefer the sporty fun to drive manual transmission. Apparently the majority of which lives way North.

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      02-10-2019 02:48 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Phil37 View Post
      40% . Not bad. I’m guessing it’s less than 10% here in the USA.

      They don't offer that many here, so you are correct.
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      02-10-2019 03:13 PM #6
      Happy to say I contributed to that 40%!

      Loving the drive.

    9. 02-10-2019 05:01 PM #7
      Yet, finding a used 4mo is impossible!

      Very pleased to hear that. Save the manuals!

      As someone who refuses to use my own money to purchase an automatic, hopefully this keeps the manual vws coming.

      Side note, that rs6 wagon coming will hopefully sport a manual. If so, I've got some saving up to do.
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      02-10-2019 06:06 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Wagon Master View Post
      Happy to say I contributed to that 40%!

      Loving the drive.
      Me three: 6-MT GSW 4MOTION, Trendline. Cheapest 4MO, and fun too! Yes I'm a cheapskate and would rather not shell out $1.5k plus higher maintenance costs, to do something I can do very well myself. But beyond the money factor, manuals are just more engaging to drive. And don't believe the DSG is more fuel efficient nonsense. Maybe in EPA testing but every real-world comparison I've read about DSG vs manual, the manual is marginally more efficient.

      I have a sneaking suspicion that VW has inadvertently found a lucrative niche. With almost every other car manufacturer ditching manuals their SUVs, and not making any wagons at all, VW has become the go-to place for someone wanting a practical and fun-to-drive vehicle with manual. In the last few days, BTW, every new-generation Jetta that I've spotted (maybe 4 or 5 in all) was manual. Maybe VW will listen and give us an R-line 4MO Tiguan with manual too.

      Funny story, my oldest son, who himself drives a beat-up manual Mk IV Jetta 2.0 wagon, has a friend who leased a Mk VI Jetta a few years ago. He wanted manual but never drove one. My son persuaded my wife to let him drive her Golf TDI wagon she had at the time (since bought back by VW and traded for a '17 GSW, 5-sp manual). Disaster, he couldn't drive it. But he went ahead and leased the manual Jetta. He had to have a friend drive it off the lot for him, and teach him how to drive it. He recently traded it for a base Mk VII Jetta, also manual. I guess he's figured it out by now.

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      02-10-2019 06:10 PM #9
      Cool, it should also be noted that in Canada they offer manuals on non-stripper/bottom-end trims which also probably helps the number out vs. the U.S. Happy with my DSG and wouldn't have bought the manual against it but hey, it's fun to shift your own gears too!
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    12. 02-10-2019 07:38 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by KarstGeo View Post
      Cool, it should also be noted that in Canada they offer manuals on non-stripper/bottom-end trims which also probably helps the number out vs. the U.S. Happy with my DSG and wouldn't have bought the manual against it but hey, it's fun to shift your own gears too!
      Eh. 2019 Alltrack can be had with a 6MT. Maybe they’re getting it now.

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      02-10-2019 08:21 PM #11
      I have an Highline (sel) 4motion, manual.

      When I was at the dealer to buy my wife’s ‘17 Golf (5spd btw) in February 2017, I told the salesman that the only way I’d trade (buyback) my TDI for another VW wagon, it had to be 4motion AND 6spd manual., otherwise I would jump ship. I guess they listened to customers feedback.

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      02-10-2019 08:41 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by AWDWAGON View Post
      I guess they listened to customers feedback.
      You think? That would be a first for VW

      We're also a two-manual family: '17 GSW FWD 5-sp Trendline manual for her, 6-sp manual 4MO Trendline for me. Not counting my son who lives in Montreal and drives a manual Mk IV Jetta wagon.

      There are 5 houses on our stretch of road. One is unoccupied. Of the 4 remaining houses, 3 are VW families. Our two wagons; neighbour across the street, two Mk VI Jettas; one non-VW house, then the next house: Mk VII Golf hatch, manual, and two Mk IV Jetta TDIs, manual. So 5 houses, 7 VWs, 5 of which are manual...

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      02-10-2019 11:52 PM #13
      Well played Canada!
      I for one appreciate your commitment to Saving The Manuals!


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      02-11-2019 01:52 PM #14
      I, too, purchased a 2018 6sp 4mo SEL. There were none available at the time I was looking so I had to order one and wait for 4 months... I love it! A little down on power compared to my tuned Tiguan but I'm happy for now. Both my daughters drive manual VWs, too. The DSG might be quicker and marginally better on fuel but I like shifting. Also, I didn't like the cost of the DSG plus the fact that I would have to eventually tune the DSG, too.

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      02-11-2019 05:44 PM #15
      Plus the DSG requires $400 service every 60k km. If you keep the car, say 180k km, that's another $1200 tacked onto the $1500 or so cost to purchase a DSG.

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      02-17-2019 10:28 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Phil37 View Post
      40% . Not bad. I’m guessing it’s less than 10% here in the USA.
      Quote Originally Posted by syntrix View Post
      They don't offer that many here, so you are correct.
      If the US was allocated more, they'd all sell. Some non-VW types come in and expect that there will be a dozen cars to pick an choose from and all they can see is an SEL DSG Alltrack of a FWD S GSW. I work at a dealership and ordered an '18 GSW S 4-Mo MT a year ago...and haven't received the car yet. The only other similar situation I've seen was with a guy who ordered a FWD MT a couple of years ago; he got his car within the first month of the new model year.

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