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    1. Member Samson's Avatar
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      02-14-2019 03:25 PM #1
      Another thread about a car. Why not? You can get one for about the same price as a new Elantra. What are TCL's thoughts on these? Specifically, the RWD 2013-2015.



      Big, sort of heavy, and an odd front bumper, but otherwise they look nice.

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      02-14-2019 03:39 PM #2
      The 450h model of those intrigues me... good performance plus ~30mpg, with the compromise of having less trunk space. How much more for the hybrid vs. the 350?

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      02-14-2019 03:40 PM #3
      Test drove a 2015 AWD one last weekend. Really, really liked it. Surprisingly good steering for a Lexus, still has decent ride. I like that it's a bit shorter than other cars in this class. Very comfortable front seats, horrific infotainment controller.

      Wife vetoed it because the rear seat didn't fold down.

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      02-14-2019 03:43 PM #4
      They've been on my radar to replace the Pilot. It might be a stretch, but I want a GS-F. Mileage would suck, but it'd be fun to commute in.

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      02-14-2019 03:53 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      The 450h model of those intrigues me... good performance plus ~30mpg, with the compromise of having less trunk space. How much more for the hybrid vs. the 350?
      It doesn't look like there's a huge difference. There's not many around here, but there is a 2013 with 43k for $24k. That's maybe a grand or so more expensive than a similarly low-mile 2013 350. The MPG is certainly impressive, but the CVT and smaller trunk might be deal killers.

      Quote Originally Posted by mutcth View Post
      Test drove a 2015 AWD one last weekend. Really, really liked it. Surprisingly good steering for a Lexus, still has decent ride. I like that it's a bit shorter than other cars in this class. Very comfortable front seats, horrific infotainment controller.

      Wife vetoed it because the rear seat didn't fold down.
      Yeah, in reviews I've seen, the infotainment setup does appear to be clumsy and the graphics leave something to be desired. The lack of folding seats is a bummer, but I also gave that up on my G35. So long as I can still fit a bike in the trunk like I can in that car, I'm good.

      Quote Originally Posted by titleist1976 View Post
      They've been on my radar to replace the Pilot. It might be a stretch, but I want a GS-F. Mileage would suck, but it'd be fun to commute in.
      That would be nice, for sure.

      It certainly sounds good:



      It could use an LSD, but hey, it seems to work about as well as the worn-out VLSD in my car.

    7. 02-14-2019 03:56 PM #6
      My dad just traded his (non-F-Sport) GS350 for an SLK350. The GS replaced an IS250, and he drove it for about three years. It was dead nuts reliable, quiet, and comfortable. He did not think it was as engaging to drive as the IS.

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      02-14-2019 04:01 PM #7
      I don't have much to add about this specifically, but I do think the 2GR series of engines are real sleepers. They're noisy (meaning driveline, at idle, etc.), but I really like the way they deliver their power. super reliable too.

      Otherwise, if you're considering anything in the class, I would at least test drive one.

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      02-14-2019 04:05 PM #8
      we have an 08 GS350 AWD and love the thing. it's comfy, reliable, easy to work on, inexpensive to fix, and you can get them for pennies on the dollar because it isn't an SUV.

      we've put 42k on ours (92k now), it has needed zero other than fluid changes, detailing, and tire rotations. also, it is a hilarious beast on snow tires.
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      02-14-2019 04:37 PM #9
      Expect to put premium gas in it.

      This 3.5L V6 in this and the IS is not the same as the one used anywhere else in Toyota/Lexus.

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      02-14-2019 04:41 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post

      That would be nice, for sure.

      It certainly sounds good:



      It could use an LSD, but hey, it seems to work about as well as the worn-out VLSD in my car.
      I've a feeling he means the GS-F, not the F-Sport, y'know the one with a V8.


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      02-14-2019 05:34 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
      Another thread about a car. Why not? You can get one for about the same price as a new Elantra. What are TCL's thoughts on these? Specifically, the RWD 2013-2015.



      Big, sort of heavy, and an odd front bumper, but otherwise they look nice.
      Love, love, love them. I've always felt that this specific GS was among the most well-rounded sport-lux sedans, particularly as a used buy. I would take one in a heartbeat over the Elantra.
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      02-14-2019 05:35 PM #12
      I remember them being reviewed well when they came out, with some reviewers commenting that the chassis and steering were what made them want to flog the car, not the engine. I'd bet anything they're more fun than an F10 5-Series.

      With Lexus quality and comfort to boot, you probably can't go wrong.
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      A bit too large of a car for my dense urban living self. Wood plow if I'm in suburbia.

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      02-14-2019 06:24 PM #14
      Thanks for the replies.

      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      I've a feeling he means the GS-F, not the F-Sport, y'know the one with a V8.
      Yeah yeah, I put that video in the wrong place. I know he meant the cooler, better, more awesome V8... I'd love one of those too.

      Quote Originally Posted by someguy123 View Post
      Expect to put premium gas in it.

      This 3.5L V6 in this and the IS is not the same as the one used anywhere else in Toyota/Lexus.
      I have no problem putting premium gas in cars that require it. Do these have that timing cover leak issue that some IS350s had/have?

      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      we have an 08 GS350 AWD and love the thing. it's comfy, reliable, easy to work on, inexpensive to fix, and you can get them for pennies on the dollar because it isn't an SUV.

      we've put 42k on ours (92k now), it has needed zero other than fluid changes, detailing, and tire rotations. also, it is a hilarious beast on snow tires.
      Good to hear. I like that generation as well, and I think it looks better.

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      02-14-2019 06:29 PM #15
      Are the Q50 Red Sports getting down to these price levels yet? Might be a good comparison with the Lexus

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      02-14-2019 06:47 PM #16
      Uber comfortable interiors on those, the F-sport has different seats than the standard model so blast a few farts into both before deciding. I would have bought one but I needed the utility of my GSW instead.

      That generation of GS has humungous soft rear LCA bushings in the front suspension, soft to the point that the switchable suspension modes in the F-sport are essentially programmed to work around it.

      Home boy in this video (scroll down) has an upgrade for it that sharpens steering and suspension articulation significantly. There is a ride penalty though.

      https://www.rr-racing.com/Lexus-Lowe...isfxlca001.htm
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      02-14-2019 06:52 PM #17
      Great cars The F sports eat tires and brakes so keep that in mind. They have sunroof rattle so watch out for that it can get annoying, otherwise the drivetrain is bullet proof .
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      02-14-2019 07:26 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
      It doesn't look like there's a huge difference. There's not many around here, but there is a 2013 with 43k for $24k. That's maybe a grand or so more expensive than a similarly low-mile 2013 350. The MPG is certainly impressive, but the CVT and smaller trunk might be deal killers.
      The hybrid seems like a good mix of sporty, comfortable, reliable and economical. The CVT doesn't seem that bad under hard acceleration (see below video). I really wanted to find a current gen CPO for my long commute. Alas, they're very difficult to find and still quite pricey. Not sure if earlier models are more prevalent.

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      Really hard to go wrong with these. My only gripe is they only take premium

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      02-14-2019 08:44 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by zmt2 View Post
      I don't have much to add about this specifically, but I do think the 2GR series of engines are real sleepers. They're noisy (meaning driveline, at idle, etc.), but I really like the way they deliver their power. super reliable too.

      Otherwise, if you're considering anything in the class, I would at least test drive one.
      My father-in-law bought a new GS350 F-Sport last year and I agree, they are surprisingly noisy at idle. Why is that? It sounds rough. He loves the car, spindle grill and all.

      My quick review on it: sport-y-ish sedan. The tach is groovy and interior is tops. Power builds linearly, not torquey but also not slow. Makes nice cabin noises when you gun it. Rear passenger space is nice. Stereo is great. Throttle takes a lot of dip to get the car motivated to move, maybe this was an eco mode feature I wasn't aware of. Feels good in the Sport+ mode. It actually felt good in the corners, it does not shrink around you but it does not feel like a land yacht, either. Rides a little rough in my opinion but steering is heavy and body movement feels good when you turn. I'd personally go for a standard GS 350 and forego the sporty bits in search of comfort. But it's a handsome package and adds a pinch of thrill to the stew.

      I 100% see the appeal of the hot rod GS F ($$$!) to get the bite to back up the bark for it to become a sports sedan. It has the bones for it.

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      02-15-2019 12:52 AM #21
      Flagship, yo!!! Yeah, that's the one I want. Not sure I'm passing the wifey test after pissing her off with the last three cars I've picked up, but you never know.

    23. 02-15-2019 12:58 AM #22
      Kinda ho hum looking but not bad would rock it over the infinit equivalent Previously known a M56

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      02-15-2019 01:06 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by zmt2 View Post
      I don't have much to add about this specifically, but I do think the 2GR series of engines are real sleepers. They're noisy (meaning driveline, at idle, etc.), but I really like the way they deliver their power. super reliable too.

      Otherwise, if you're considering anything in the class, I would at least test drive one.
      Lol werent both of us supposed to have swapped to supposedly cheap M2s by now
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      02-15-2019 05:16 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by ImHereForTheTaco View Post
      Are the Q50 Red Sports getting down to these price levels yet? Might be a good comparison with the Lexus
      I've liked the GS F Sport for a long time. Very underrated car, IMO.

      For ~40K though I think a Q50 RS would be a good comparison.
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      02-15-2019 06:45 AM #25
      Can't beat that interior.. or at least, it's going to be difficult. High quality finishes and just plush all around. Not very engaging to drive the one time I drove one briefly.

      Was actually considering one, decided against it because the rear seats for some weird reason don't fold down. Quite a bummer when you want to transport something from, I don't know, IKEA or something.
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