Another thread about a car. Why not? You can get one for about the same price as a new Elantra. What are TCL's thoughts on these? Specifically, the RWD 2013-2015.
Big, sort of heavy, and an odd front bumper, but otherwise they look nice.
Test drove a 2015 AWD one last weekend. Really, really liked it. Surprisingly good steering for a Lexus, still has decent ride. I like that it's a bit shorter than other cars in this class. Very comfortable front seats, horrific infotainment controller.
Wife vetoed it because the rear seat didn't fold down.
It certainly sounds good:
It could use an LSD, but hey, it seems to work about as well as the worn-out VLSD in my car.
I don't have much to add about this specifically, but I do think the 2GR series of engines are real sleepers. They're noisy (meaning driveline, at idle, etc.), but I really like the way they deliver their power. super reliable too.
Otherwise, if you're considering anything in the class, I would at least test drive one.
we have an 08 GS350 AWD and love the thing. it's comfy, reliable, easy to work on, inexpensive to fix, and you can get them for pennies on the dollar because it isn't an SUV.
we've put 42k on ours (92k now), it has needed zero other than fluid changes, detailing, and tire rotations. also, it is a hilarious beast on snow tires.
I remember them being reviewed well when they came out, with some reviewers commenting that the chassis and steering were what made them want to flog the car, not the engine. I'd bet anything they're more fun than an F10 5-Series.
With Lexus quality and comfort to boot, you probably can't go wrong.
Thanks for the replies.
Uber comfortable interiors on those, the F-sport has different seats than the standard model so blast a few farts into both before deciding. I would have bought one but I needed the utility of my GSW instead.
That generation of GS has humungous soft rear LCA bushings in the front suspension, soft to the point that the switchable suspension modes in the F-sport are essentially programmed to work around it.
Home boy in this video (scroll down) has an upgrade for it that sharpens steering and suspension articulation significantly. There is a ride penalty though.
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Great cars The F sports eat tires and brakes so keep that in mind. They have sunroof rattle so watch out for that it can get annoying, otherwise the drivetrain is bullet proof .
02 GTi 1.8T haldex'd w/35r-SOLD [email protected] 27psi on 93 octane--04 A4 1.8T converted to AWD also- SOLD--'11 JSW Tdi 6speed Manual- Gone--
13' BMW 335i M-sport EBII
My quick review on it: sport-y-ish sedan. The tach is groovy and interior is tops. Power builds linearly, not torquey but also not slow. Makes nice cabin noises when you gun it. Rear passenger space is nice. Stereo is great. Throttle takes a lot of dip to get the car motivated to move, maybe this was an eco mode feature I wasn't aware of. Feels good in the Sport+ mode. It actually felt good in the corners, it does not shrink around you but it does not feel like a land yacht, either. Rides a little rough in my opinion but steering is heavy and body movement feels good when you turn. I'd personally go for a standard GS 350 and forego the sporty bits in search of comfort. But it's a handsome package and adds a pinch of thrill to the stew.
I 100% see the appeal of the hot rod GS F ($$$!) to get the bite to back up the bark for it to become a sports sedan. It has the bones for it.
Current: '17 Tundra, '16 3 GT
Past/Sold: '13 Evo, '08 Si, '12 Mustang GT, '03 Evo VIII, '01 Golf 1.8T
Can't beat that interior.. or at least, it's going to be difficult. High quality finishes and just plush all around. Not very engaging to drive the one time I drove one briefly.
Was actually considering one, decided against it because the rear seats for some weird reason don't fold down. Quite a bummer when you want to transport something from, I don't know, IKEA or something.
Current: 2019 BMW X3
Past: 2015 Lexus CT200h, 2008 Mazda MX-5, 2006 Opel Vectra, 1999 Renault Safrane, 1998 Golf Mk IV, 1985 Golf Mk II
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