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      if this guy really likes it (and can't stop revving up the engine), then you know it's gotta be good...


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      02-15-2019 08:14 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Zembla View Post
      Was actually considering one, decided against it because the rear seats for some weird reason don't fold down. Quite a bummer when you want to transport something from, I don't know, IKEA or something.
      They don't fold because folding rear seats increase noise and reduce structural rigidity. I had the same thought you did (as mentioned in my above post), but then saw that the car at least has a pass-through for skis. I'd put on a hitch for a bike rack, or just get yet another roof rack for my collection.

      Given that I'll always have an SUV tow vehicle in my garage, I think I could live happily with one of these. I'm going to wait for 2017s to hit their 3-year-old off-lease status; all of the safety stuff became standard in that year. I really like the idea of an old-school sedan that can probably do 250k near trouble-free miles.

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      02-15-2019 08:31 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by lowlight View Post
      I've liked the GS F Sport for a long time. Very underrated car, IMO.

      For ~40K though I think a Q50 RS would be a good comparison.
      Yeah, $40k is more than I'm willing to spend on a car. $20-$25k gets a nice 40-50k mile GS350 though. I do want to drive both an F-Sport and base car, just to see if the adjustable suspension is that much better. Does it make enough of a handling difference on a big car like this to justify the expense and potential repair? The cosmetic and interior changes might be worth it alone though... but I would assume that I could get a nicer base RWD car for the same money. I did find out that some of these came without heated seats. Weird.

      Quote Originally Posted by mutcth View Post
      They don't fold because folding rear seats increase noise and reduce structural rigidity. I had the same thought you did (as mentioned in my above post), but then saw that the car at least has a pass-through for skis. I'd put on a hitch for a bike rack, or just get yet another roof rack for my collection.

      Given that I'll always have an SUV tow vehicle in my garage, I think I could live happily with one of these. I'm going to wait for 2017s to hit their 3-year-old off-lease status; all of the safety stuff became standard in that year. I really like the idea of an old-school sedan that can probably do 250k near trouble-free miles.

      Tom
      Yep, a trailer hitch for a bike rack is usually my first "mod" to any car. Good thing it's available for the GS (unlike the Si or Elantra Sport, oddly).


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      02-15-2019 08:37 AM #29
      my brother had one, they are pretty nice cars.
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      02-15-2019 11:20 AM #30
      I like this move better. I also want you to know that I have your best interests at heart.

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      02-15-2019 11:31 AM #31
      Because it is a Lexus masquerading as a German car but misses the mark at being a German car.

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      02-15-2019 01:36 PM #32
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      02-15-2019 01:39 PM #33
      Of all the letters in the alphabet...why did they pick the letter F to represent their sport models?
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      02-15-2019 01:44 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Crispyfritter View Post
      I like this move better. I also want you to know that I have your best interests at heart.
      Heh, I'm glad you approve. Maybe I'll find one in southern California and then convince you to drive it to NC for me.

      Quote Originally Posted by andlf View Post
      Of all the letters in the alphabet...why did they pick the letter F to represent their sport models?
      Here's why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_F
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      02-15-2019 03:16 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Because it is a Lexus masquerading as a German car but misses the mark at being a German car.
      What does a 4-6 banger German midsizer do that this doesn't?

      And it could be argued that German cars are now masquerading as Japanese cars.



    12. 02-16-2019 12:23 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      What does a 4-6 banger German midsizer do that this doesn't?

      And it could be argued that German cars are now masquerading as Japanese cars.


      I called it on the thread for the new 3series Lexus like tails

    13. 02-16-2019 02:45 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Because it is a Lexus masquerading as a German car but misses the mark at being a German car.
      And thus ends up being much better.

      The GS is a phenomenal car, best in class. Too bad it holds its value, comparable E-class and 5 Series models are much cheaper used but they're also absolute garbage (E-class) or a time bomb (5 series).

    14. 02-16-2019 02:55 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      And thus ends up being much better.

      The GS is a phenomenal car, best in class. Too bad it holds its value,.
      Really , these got cheap quickly still a good deal though it looks a bit like an 04 maxima

    15. 02-16-2019 04:26 AM #39
      F-Sport is a great choice if you want the looks and driving experience especially if it's loaded up with that Dynamics package or something. But if you go with Luxury trim you will get the interior and seats out of this world. Current GS interior has inferior interior technology compared to current midsize premium sedans but the layout and quality is like it was made for 19MY

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      02-16-2019 10:43 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by texghost View Post
      F-Sport is a great choice if you want the looks and driving experience especially if it's loaded up with that Dynamics package or something. But if you go with Luxury trim you will get the interior and seats out of this world. Current GS interior has inferior interior technology compared to current midsize premium sedans but the layout and quality is like it was made for 19MY
      I just drove a very base model '15 RWD (no heated seats for your $50k... what is this, a BMW?). $22k. I was surprised how much I liked it. Great seats. It's obviously not as firm and direct as my car, but enough for me. As has been mentioned in pretty much every review, the engine is fantastic. Smooth, great noise, and has a nice build of power towards the redline. That alone made me want one. The nav/infotainment is a bit clunky and the UI looks like it was designed by a ruler-toting engineer from 1996, but I can get past that. At ~60k miles, it was rattle-free and looked new inside. I'm sold.

      I'm going to keep my eye out for a nice RWD '15 with at least the Luxury Package.

    17. 02-16-2019 10:47 AM #41
      A great, and very overlooked car. Surprisingly athletic and good to drive, as well. The shift towards SUV's has not done these things any favors in the resale value department, so they are great buys. Probably only other lux sedan in its category and era that I'd consider is an A6. Both are far better than a CTS, F10 5 Series, or E Class. Only real downsides are modest power, and mediocre infotainment.

    18. 02-16-2019 12:06 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by ImpeccableNEW View Post
      Really , these got cheap quickly still a good deal though it looks a bit like an 04 maxima
      That's the older model, you want the 2013+ and you want it in 450h guise ideally.


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      02-18-2019 07:59 AM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by PrettyHateMachine View Post
      . Only real downsides are modest power, and mediocre infotainment.
      Power felt more than adequate, but I agree about the infotainment and tech. My current car has more options than most GS350s that I've found. Finding one with adaptive headlights and adaptive cruise control like my old-ass Infiniti has isn't as easy as I'd have thought. Plus no sunglasses holder... WTF?

      This isn't the most well designed setup in the world:



      I also don't think the F-Sport package is worth it, at least for what I want. More expensive tires and apparently brakes, more stuff to break, heavier, more expensive in general. Adjustable suspension is sort of cool, but also sort of dumb. A base car + good tires should do it.

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      02-18-2019 09:24 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by ImpeccableNEW View Post
      Really , these got cheap quickly still a good deal though it looks a bit like an 04 maxima
      this is the exact color combo we have (though AWD so different wheels). they are so much car for the money on the used market.
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      02-18-2019 09:49 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by tejlab View Post
      And thus ends up being much better.

      The GS is a phenomenal car, best in class. Too bad it holds its value, comparable E-class and 5 Series models are much cheaper used but they're also absolute garbage (E-class) or a time bomb (5 series).
      Disagree. These things are pretty cheap considering the Lexus reliability reputation, and a C7/7.5 A6/S6 is a much better product.

      If you look at 3-year old off-lease CPO models with 6-cylinder engines, the three Germans and the GS are all around the $30k mark.

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      02-18-2019 09:56 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw79 View Post
      Disagree. These things are pretty cheap considering the Lexus reliability reputation, and a C7/7.5 A6/S6 is a much better product.

      If you look at 3-year old off-lease CPO models with 6-cylinder engines, the three Germans and the GS are all around the $30k mark.

      A 2014-2016 CPO S6 are anywhere from 40k to 60K

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      02-18-2019 09:59 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Just another GTI View Post
      And has a turbo charged 8-cylinder engine

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      02-18-2019 10:09 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw79 View Post
      And has a turbo charged 8-cylinder engine
      remind me about reliability and service costs on high mileage modern german turbo cars, oh wait...
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      02-18-2019 10:12 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by ImHereForTheTaco View Post
      Are the Q50 Red Sports getting down to these price levels yet? Might be a good comparison with the Lexus
      Quote Originally Posted by lowlight View Post
      I've liked the GS F Sport for a long time. Very underrated car, IMO.

      For ~40K though I think a Q50 RS would be a good comparison.
      Q50RS is a very different car, the GS is a class above it competing with the 5/A6/E whereas the Q is 3/A4/5/C level. GS is much quieter and softer, the Q50RS has gobs of power and even better brakes, but it's not as polished at the GS is.

      The GS is a great car, great platform, as long as you're not looking for a sports car, you can't be displeased with what it has to offer. The 3.5 in that car is hands down the best V6 I've ever driven and I think the fact that they've been using that motor for more or less a decade says a lot. It's reliable, quiet, comfortable, but quick and a little fun. I'd really love a GS-F.
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      02-18-2019 10:19 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by compy222 View Post
      remind me about reliability and service costs on high mileage modern german turbo cars, oh wait...
      Remind me about what is high mileage, unreliable, and unreasonably expensive to maintain about a 3-5 year old CPO car.

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