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      03-13-2019 08:18 PM #1
      In the low-mid $20k range, moderately luxurious and sort of sporty used car market, a 2016-ish TLX SH-AWD Advance can be had. It has features that I like, such as cooled seats and adaptive cruise, plus a good V6. Looking at various reviews, the 9 speed auto doesn't get much love. CR gave it 1/5 in the reliability department, which seems odd, since it's basically an AWD Accord. Is this something that has been fixed via a software update, or is it more serious than that?

      It also comes in brown, which is cool.

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      03-13-2019 08:32 PM #3
      Metallitubby is the one to ask about these, I believe he has some great advice about the TLX.

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      03-13-2019 08:42 PM #4
      The early ZF 9-speed had plenty of issues which is well documented. There were some software glitches with the infotainment as well from what I understand. FCA implemented an improved version of the 9-speed in 2016, I imagine Honda did as well sometime during that year.

      I don’t really like these at all. Very meh.
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      03-13-2019 08:54 PM #5
      I saw what I think was one of these in white in traffic the other day. I thought it looked pretty sharp. Seems like it should be a good idea.

      Remind us again how much you liked your last Accord?

    7. 03-13-2019 09:01 PM #6
      Almost bought one but backed out due to unresolved vibration issues across all years. Do a search. Buyer beware.

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      03-13-2019 09:14 PM #7
      I wish they would have put the drivetrain from my car into these (or even better a hotted up DI v6). The size is juuuuust right imo.

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      03-13-2019 09:39 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
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      Heh. But this is the last one. I'm not already looking at something else. I swear.

      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Metallitubby is the one to ask about these, I believe he has some great advice about the TLX.
      I bet he does.

      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      FCA implemented an improved version of the 9-speed in 2016, I imagine Honda did as well sometime during that year.
      Quote Originally Posted by gtimusings View Post
      Almost bought one but backed out due to unresolved vibration issues across all years. Do a search. Buyer beware.
      Interesting. I'll look into this stuff more.

      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      I saw what I think was one of these in white in traffic the other day. I thought it looked pretty sharp. Seems like it should be a good idea.

      Remind us again how much you liked your last Accord?
      Yeah, my neighbor has a white A-Spec that just sits in his driveway. I'm not sure if the car never moving is a good or bad sign, but walking past it every day on the dog walk has made me appreciate the styling more than I used to. The cleaner look of the pre-refresh is nice as well.

      I'd like to think that this is totally different than my old Accord (but maybe not). Much more interesting drivetrain, better appointed interior. My main problem with the Honda was that you could tell that a solid idea was turned into a "**** it, that'll do" pile of mediocrity. Then again, the TLX is built at the same plant, so...

      Quote Originally Posted by zmt2 View Post
      I wish they would have put the drivetrain from my car into these (or even better a hotted up DI v6). The size is juuuuust right imo.
      Yeah, a 6-speed version of this with a bit more power would be pretty sweet.

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      03-13-2019 10:34 PM #9
      I like the TLX. Still own a 07 TLS myself. However I got to drive it for a couple days as a loaner and it felt pretty big and felt like driving a boat. Would love to see a type S version.
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      03-13-2019 11:27 PM #10
      I have an 18 V6 SHAWD. It’s a great highway cruiser and it eats thru snow like nobody’s business. It’s plenty spacious for my young family and a good trunk. And it will haul ass if needed.

      I wouldn’t buy one pre-refresh due to the lack of CarPlay/Android Auto and the Honda Sensing stuff though. Also, the fuel economy is awful. Roughly 23 combined, and premium.

      Compare to Fusion Sport, Lincoln MKZ, and Subaru Legacy before you pull the trigger.

      I think I’m going to hang onto it for another year or so then maybe upgrade to an electric or plug in or some sort, depending on what my driving patterns are like.

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      03-13-2019 11:31 PM #11
      This boy Samson sure seems to like lightly used Japanese near-lux sedans.

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      03-14-2019 03:26 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      This boy Samson sure seems to like lightly used Japanese near-lux sedans.
      I'm pretty much in the same boat, but with the C350 Sport thrown in the mix.

      Currently leaning towards a 11'-13' 2nd Gen IS350 right now.

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      Garbage trans.
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      03-14-2019 05:14 AM #14
      Good discussion here.

      I want to like the TLX, I like Acura & Japanese cars in general, it just doesn't excite me that much. N/A V6, AWD, reliable, I'd still go GS 350 F Sport. If it must be a Honda product, honestly the current Accord excites me more. I'd just find a way to put in a LSD from Si or CTR.

      Also, Q50 Red Sport. They're practically giving those away right? And last, Genesis G80 comes to mind, love how those look.
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      03-14-2019 06:10 AM #15
      My co-worker just bought one of these, although I think it's a 2017.

      He thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but the idea that it might turn into a great big headache for him actually warms my soul. He's a little bit of a c**t.
      I keep up with traffic with only 90 hp. What's your superpower?
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      03-14-2019 08:18 AM #16
      I've heard that the 06-07 G35 with the "S" package is the one to get in the near luxury Japanese sedan game. Either that, or a 2014+ Lexus GS350.

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      03-14-2019 08:28 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Surf Green View Post
      but the idea that it might turn into a great big headache for him actually warms my soul. He's a little bit of a c**t.
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      03-14-2019 08:28 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by mrothwell View Post
      I've heard that the 06-07 G35 with the "S" package is the one to get in the near luxury Japanese sedan game. Either that, or a 2014+ Lexus GS350.
      Come on now, the '06 is a V35. Nobody wants that. Now buy another X3.

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      03-14-2019 09:05 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
      Come on now, the '06 is a V35. Nobody wants that. Now buy another X3.
      My bad, 07-08 are the hot years to own.

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      03-14-2019 09:40 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
      In the low-mid $20k range, moderately luxurious and sort of sporty used car market, a 2016-ish TLX SH-AWD Advance can be had. It has features that I like, such as cooled seats and adaptive cruise, plus a good V6. Looking at various reviews, the 9 speed auto doesn't get much love. CR gave it 1/5 in the reliability department, which seems odd, since it's basically an AWD Accord. Is this something that has been fixed via a software update, or is it more serious than that?

      It also comes in brown, which is cool.
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      Its not an overly exciting car, but its very comfortable, and capable. My father has a FWD one and it easily gets 34mpg highway cruising at 70-80. I actually like the 9spd box alot, and dont really understand the hatred for it.

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      03-14-2019 10:08 AM #21
      I've been driving a 2018 TLX sh-awd for the last 2 months (consider this is the MMC)
      The ZF 9 spd isn't the best trans, however, its not "garbage" in the sense that its unreliable to my knowledge.
      Its garbage because today there are so many very good transmissions. For instance my Accord 10spd is pretty amazing, compared to that its garbage.
      The TLX trans shifting could be better, but still an improvement from the previous models. When you shift from P to D, or R etc. there is a considerable delay ~1 second.
      Overall I'd say the car is still pretty nice, actually, nicer than I originally gave it credit for. I also drove a 2018 MDX for a while and I like the TLX much better.

      I will add, I drove a FWD 2018 TLX for a few weeks too, and the trans on that car was better than AWD version. Is it a car to car difference, or a tuning difference because awd? I'm not sure.
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      03-14-2019 10:14 AM #22
      Overall, the TLX of this flavor is just "ok" at best. The transmission is NOT unreliable, but it is finicky and this was just to tide us over until our own factory could up production numbers of our own design. Knowing OP's likes and dislikes, then I would say this vehicle is not for him.
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      03-14-2019 10:47 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by RicN View Post
      I like the TLX. Still own a 07 TLS myself. However I got to drive it for a couple days as a loaner and it felt pretty big and felt like driving a boat. Would love to see a type S version.
      I still kick myself for getting rid of my 2007 TL-S

      I find it interesting that the "Problem and fixes" sub-forum on Acurazine has more posts that the other 4 subforums. And the transmission threads appear to be the biggest:

      https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...-tlx-2015-415/

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      03-14-2019 10:54 AM #24
      I have mixed feelings about these. They look great and it would be nice to have a big honest N/A V6 again. I have experienced the ZF9 in other cars and didn't feel anything strange. I'm sure SH-AWD is nice too. But outside of that the Accord 2.0T is just a better car in every way.

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      03-14-2019 10:57 AM #25
      With that used price why not go "all the way" for a RLX... Flagship

      random autotrader search
      https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...=RLX&zip=90210

      https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...Type=spotlight
      That was a $60k+ car... V6 + hybrid + SHAWD + all the Honda tech...
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