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      03-14-2019 08:33 PM #1
      It sounds like this wasn't cheating, just that the catalysts degrade too quickly in real-world use.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...ssions-recall/

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      FCA Recalls 862,000 Dodge, Jeep, and Chrysler Models Due to Tougher EPA Testing

      The emissions recall will fix catalytic converters; it is based on real-world road tests that demonstrated the cars to be out of compliance.

      By Clifford Atiyeh
      Mar 13, 2019

      Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) is recalling 862,520 cars in the United States that are no longer compliant with federal emissions regulations, the Environmental Protection Agency and the automaker said on Wednesday.

      Affected models include the 2011–2012 Dodge Caliber, the 2011–2014 Chrysler 200 and Dodge Avenger, and front-wheel-drive versions of the 2011–2016 Dodge Journey, Jeep Compass, and Jeep Patriot.

      FCA said it found a problem "during routine in-use emissions testing"—parlance for how the EPA has forced automakers, in the wake of the Volkswagen diesel scandal, to monitor tailpipe emissions during road tests—and reported it to the agency earlier this winter. FCA said it would replace the catalytic converters and update software on the powertrain control module. While some or all of the levels of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, and other hydrocarbons may have registered above the legal limit for on-road testing, FCA and these vehicles were in compliance at the time of sale before the new procedures were in place. There are no fines, and the recall is unrelated to the diesel-emissions settlement affecting 100,000 late-model Jeep and Ram trucks.

      The EPA said it will stagger the recall repairs into four stages depending on vehicle age, beginning with older models. Owners in certain states may need to have their catalytic converters replaced before taking in their vehicles for an inspection.

      As part of its new protocol, the EPA says it requires automakers to submit emissions data on currently registered vehicles that are between one and four years old. The agency borrows about 150 vehicles from car owners each year, while automakers borrow 2000. About 4 percent of all the vehicles show "higher than expected" emissions from these road tests, which may (but not always) spur a recall.
      It looks like the recall mainly affects the lamest cars they've offered, so it's unlikely anyone on TCL will be getting any recall postcards. The interesting thing to me was seeing that the EPA annually tests 150 used vehicles from ordinary Americans and requires the automakers to test another 2000 a year. The US really does take emissions more seriously than anyone gives us credit for.

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      03-14-2019 08:38 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post
      It looks like the recall mainly affects the lamest cars they've offered, so it's unlikely anyone on TCL will be getting any recall postcards. The interesting thing to me was seeing that the EPA annually tests 150 used vehicles from ordinary Americans and requires the automakers to test another 2000 a year. The US really does take emissions more seriously than anyone gives us credit for.
      It will be interesting to see how well the "emissions fixed" TDIs hold up as well.

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      Owners rejoice, free cats? Must be nice!
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    5. 03-14-2019 10:15 PM #4
      Judging by the models listed, I am thinking that this will be for the 2.4 litre 4 cylinder engines only. The Pentastar has a different catalyst setup, and other vehicles that are V6 only, e.g. the minivans, aren't listed.

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      03-15-2019 09:34 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post


      It looks like the recall mainly affects the lamest cars they've offered,

      first thing I thought of when I saw the list 'well that's a nice pile of turds'
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      03-15-2019 09:47 AM #6
      Hopefully they are bought back and crushed.

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      03-15-2019 11:39 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Volkl View Post
      Hopefully they are bought back and crushed.
      Yeah, Cash for Clunkers was the greatest.
      Next edit by onebadbug; tomorrow at 10:13 AM.

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