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    1. Banned by John until they unbanned me zukiphile's Avatar
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      03-28-2019 03:32 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      I would buy that, but just put a Unimog on my credit card and Amex says I'm at or past the limit.
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      03-28-2019 03:33 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by zukiphile View Post
      I would buy that, but just put a Unimog on my credit card and Amex says I'm at or past the limit.
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    4. 03-28-2019 03:42 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      the older i get, and the more money i make, the more i am astounded by the terrible fiscal decisions people make. when i was was 22, spending 30k on a car was like ... duh, what do i care? hell, thats exactly what i did when i got a real job, i went out and bought a brand new 30k GTI. now that im in my 30s, making twice the money i did when i was 22, i find the prospect of a car that costs more than 5 grand to be wildly expensive and totally pointless. why would i drive around a nice car with a car payment, with expensive insurance, that if i touch it funny will lose value, and it won't be that good to drive anyway (most modern cars a numb and boring), when i could drive around and not give a **** doing whatever i want to my car, and do it for a hundred bucks a month or less? its a no brainer. there isn't 800 dollars a month in value from having heated seats. there isn't 800 dollars a month in value from having a touchscreen in the car. there isn't 800 dollars a month in value to have radar guided cruise control, or lane monitoring or anything. 800 dollars a month id rather spend on raceing, women, booze, drugs or ANYthing else. that convenience or "niceness" is WILDLY overpriced.

      TLR: the older it get, the more i realize how bad a value anything over ~5 grand in a car really is.
      But the 30k can go towards winning spec miata

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      03-28-2019 03:47 PM #104
      My wife's last two vehicles have been leased Ram trucks. She drives less than 12,000 miles a year so the lease deals are great on them. A ~$50K pickup in Metro Detroit can be leased for the same price as a $30K sedan or CUV...many times, even less.

      Her current truck is a 2018 Ram Laramie 4x4 Hemi Crew Cab. It is spacious inside - more roomy inside than the Chrysler 300 before the trucks. Seats are very comfortable (heated/vented), Alpine sound system is loud and clear and UConnect works great. Ride is smooth and quiet but at the same time feel more capable of handling the horrid Michigan roads. It is nearly a luxury vehicle inside - even has a stitched leather dash. The 2019 Rams are even nicer.

      We have used the trucks to pull boats, rented RV campers, minibikes, go kart, mulch and a lot of other suburban household stuff. Even the fuel economy isn't that bad - we averaged nearly 20 MPG (>70 MPH) on a recent road trip.

      My wife would rather have a ~$50k truck than a $50k CUV. It works out for me, I get to have a car that is not super practical and she gets what she wants too.

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      03-28-2019 05:07 PM #105
      It's 2019, are butt warmers still considered luxury? How about massage seats, soft closing doors, air balance ionization system, pink noise, etc...

      ..

      I remember the days when I had this Luxury back in 1989


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      03-28-2019 05:10 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by Senior Member View Post

      I remember the days when I had this Luxury back in 1989

      According to my mom that just meant you were a drug dealer.

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      03-28-2019 05:19 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      According to my mom that just meant you were a drug dealer.
      Pagers had many purposes besides dealing drugs.


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      03-28-2019 05:19 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by ImHereForTheTaco View Post
      Some people spend in inordinate amount of energy caring about what other people spend their money on.
      Nail on the head. Worry about your own finances before someone else's.

      I agree trucks are expensive but so is everything else. You might as well get something you like while you're still here breathing oxygen. If you like these luxo trucks then go right ahead and buy one if you can afford it. If you don't think you are getting value out of it then buy something else. To criticize someone for buying a nice truck (or anything) is just a silly waste of your time.

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      03-28-2019 05:26 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      its amazing how insecure men are they are willing to put down that much money to feel good about themselves.
      QFT. it's amazing right! how do people in european countries even survive?

      also this:

      The 10 best-selling vehicles in the United States in 2018 were mostly trucks and SUVs:
      1. Ford F-Series - 909,330.
      2. Chevrolet Silverado - 585,581.
      3. Dodge Ram - 536,980.
      doesn't look like they're too expensive to me, as insecure guys keep purchasing them in droves.
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      03-28-2019 05:26 PM #110
      fun fact, pagers are still big business.

      the medical industry uses them extensively because they are far more reliable than cell phones

      https://rockhealth.com/why-doctors-still-use-pagers/
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      03-28-2019 06:03 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by Aw614 View Post
      But the 30k can go towards winning spec miata
      two of 'em!
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      03-28-2019 06:35 PM #112
      The taxes...the finger thing means the taxes.

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      03-28-2019 07:04 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      which are not 50 grand luxo-trucks, so whats your point?

      i can atest personally i have seen three conservative co-workers go out and buy 50k trucks over previously driving sedans in the last 2 years. one even spent nearly 70k on a truck, its becoming a pride/insecurity thing in what they view as an increasingly feminized world. none of them use these truck as trucks, just daily drivers.
      Did you inform them that they should be driving a sports car and that no one needs anymore than that?

      Also... What level of driving are they at in their trucks?

      Or do you even talk to them about it because they don't drive them at the limit or beyond?

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      03-28-2019 07:24 PM #114
      Heck, there are some insecure truck drivers that only drive theirs at one tents.


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      03-28-2019 08:19 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Heck, there are some insecure truck drivers that only drive theirs at one tents.
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      03-28-2019 08:34 PM #116
      What's all this talk about insecure truck owners compensating for something?



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      03-28-2019 09:06 PM #117
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      03-28-2019 09:11 PM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
      Heck, there are some insecure truck drivers that only drive theirs at one tents.

      According to people like aoc your so insecure you have to sleep with it.
      Wearing a disguise, and pretending to be someone else?

      That goes against all my instincts as a actor...

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      03-28-2019 09:14 PM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Basically your neighbor's problem is called "three quarter ton pickup ownership".
      I get it. Still sucks to pay the fuel bill though! He knew it would suck gas. He just didn’t think it would be that bad all the time.

      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      So what you're saying is that no older trucks have ever had these problems? For as long as cars have been in existence, a proportion of all owners have problems. Doesn't matter if it's a Ford or Honda.
      Of course every brand and model has issues. But you cannot deny the fact that Ford, GM and Ram truck owners have more than their fair share of problems, which directly supports the point that the survey made which is buyers think their trucks are overpriced for the product they are getting. And that’s even after factoring in the crazy discounts they need to make all those sales.

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      03-28-2019 09:17 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      According to my mom that just meant you were a drug dealer.
      Not even a good drug dealer. All the good ones had the color cases.


      The trucks are expensive and people are stretching the loans. At this rate, they'll just call it a car-mortgage or something.

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      03-28-2019 09:30 PM #121
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      I get it. Still sucks to pay the fuel bill though! He knew it would suck gas. He just didn’t think it would be that bad all the time.
      Did he happen to look at it in person before he bought it? How in the world did he think he'd ever get better than 10-12MPG in a three quarter ton truck?

      Our diesels that have all emissions stuff gutted, and a tune, can touch 18-20MPG on the highway if you take it easy. Otherwise it's 11MPG everywhere.
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      03-28-2019 09:33 PM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Did he happen to look at it in person before he bought it?
      Yes yes of course! There is no EPA estimated fuel economy for these trucks. So without first hand experience it’s not unreasonable to assume that it would suck gas while towing but not necessarily be that bad all the time.

    24. 03-29-2019 12:29 AM #123
      People love to dog pile truck owners but have no problem with exotic luxury cars with crazy HP numbers. Why stress out over how other people spend their money? “Oh, I have share the road with these oversized vehicles taking up too much space”. You also have to share public spaces with overweight Americans who eat junk food and spend too much time on the internet complaining about nonsense so get over it.

      Just kidding, if I didn’t have nonsensical internet gossip to read, life would be boring.

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      03-29-2019 01:16 AM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by Porkchopexpress View Post
      People love to dog pile truck owners but have no problem with exotic luxury cars with crazy HP numbers. Why stress out over how other people spend their money? “Oh, I have share the road with these oversized vehicles taking up too much space”. You also have to share public spaces with overweight Americans who eat junk food and spend too much time on the internet complaining about nonsense so get over it.

      Just kidding, if I didn’t have nonsensical internet gossip to read, life would be boring.
      Oma owns a 2008 BMW 760Li.

      If I drive that car like I own it I get around 12MPG in it. For some reason that's okay. Car to this day has 16,000 miles on it.

      If I drive a truck that gets 12MPG it's due to terrible engineering.

      This place makes no sense. /TCL
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      03-29-2019 02:40 AM #125
      I've been looking to lease a new vehicle lately and by far the best bang for the buck looks to be the F-150 Lariat up here in Canada. These things sticker for around $65-$70K Canadian but Ford Canada discounts them so much and dealers give huge breaks too with low rates that a loaded one is way cheaper to lease than say a mid trim Highlander, Pilot, Atlas for example.

      It's probably why they have been best selling vehicle up here for 50 years straight.

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