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      So, I got lucky on a set of imported Pilot Sport 3s for the rabbit. I really enjoy them, but the rally to Radwood LA, the rally to CRR Rewind, and then CRR rewind has them nearly to the wear bars. The comfort, the gradual break away when you abused them the lack of noise was awesome. I wish they would make PS4s in “radwood” sizes.
      I previously had Toyo T1Rs, but they were loud and harsh. Admittedly they were 45 series instead of 50 series.
      Options available:
      BFG G-Force Sport Comp-2
      Direzza DZ102
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      What would you buy?


      There are a bunch of 200 tread wear options, but I think those would heat cycle out, and won’t deal with dusty roads well.
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      04-14-2019 10:39 PM #2
      The BFG is pretty good from that list. It's the most sporty but not as all-out as the 200 tw stuff.

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      04-14-2019 10:49 PM #3
      Whatever has white letters gets my vote.
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      04-14-2019 11:12 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Whatever has white letters gets my vote.
      I wish! Unfortunately none of these have that option.
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    6. 04-14-2019 11:19 PM #5
      Honestly, in the States, there's no longer much available in smaller fitments other than cheapo stock-sized econo tires, Chinese garbage, and near-race (or race) tires. Anyway, out of what you have listed, the BFG is the choice for performance.
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      04-14-2019 11:45 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Whatever has white letters gets my vote.
      Don't be so picky. Can just spray on illest or RWB.

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      04-14-2019 11:48 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Bad Rabbit Habit View Post
      I wish! Unfortunately none of these have that option.
      Are you running 15s?

      I honestly have no creative input because I don’t own a performance car and I don’t do track days.

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      04-14-2019 11:54 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Bad Rabbit Habit View Post
      Options available:
      BFG G-Force Sport Comp-2
      This.

      I had a few sets. Best band for the buck.
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      04-15-2019 06:34 AM #9
      Star Specs are my choice by a long shot. They take heat very well and even do OK in the wet. I have IIs on my MK1 that have lived through 6 dry track days, 2 wet, and 1,500 street miles. Still sticky too, and they aren’t wearing like any 200 tread wear tire I’ve seen.

      Incredible deal in my opinion, and I wouldn’t even contemplate the others further.

    11. 04-15-2019 08:26 AM #10
      What about continental extreme contact sports? In most tests they rank just below the P4S and are really good in the rain. Available in smaller sizes too

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    13. 04-15-2019 09:31 AM #12
      I vote BFG.

      Sad that there is such limited choice for 15"/16" tires nowadays.

      These would be a great Radwood choice:



      But apparently they're only available in Japan?

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      04-15-2019 09:57 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Are you running 15s?

      I honestly have no creative input because I don’t own a performance car and I don’t do track days.
      Quote Originally Posted by Aw614 View Post
      What about continental extreme contact sports? In most tests they rank just below the P4S and are really good in the rain. Available in smaller sizes too


      Quote Originally Posted by 3WheelGTi View Post
      Star Specs are my choice by a long shot. They take heat very well and even do OK in the wet. I have IIs on my MK1 that have lived through 6 dry track days, 2 wet, and 1,500 street miles. Still sticky too, and they aren’t wearing like any 200 tread wear tire I’ve seen.

      Incredible deal in my opinion, and I wouldn’t even contemplate the others further.

      Running a 195/50r15. The Continental's aren't available in that size, unfortunately.

      The Star Specs are tempting. Tirerack is closing out ZIIs right now for 80 a tire. Reviews seem mixed on heat cycling. The Rabbit could use more traction, but now I am thinking about fun versus speed. If I have more grip, I will end up using it. And on the street that is irresponsible.
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    15. 04-15-2019 10:00 AM #14
      I take it the 205/50/15 conti would be too wide/tall on a rabbit? Seems like that's the only size they have in 15in.

      But I ran the 195/55/15 Comp2 for a couple of years and thought they were a good tire for everyday use. Great for the florida summer downpours, but also grippy enough for street driving. From friends who have driven on the DZ102 with their miatas they hated that tire and two friends said that said it was dangerous in the rain in normal driving. Not sure what their issue was, but one friend switched to an S drive for daily use and is happy now.
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      04-15-2019 10:12 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Aw614 View Post
      I take it the 205/50/15 conti would be too wide/tall on a rabbit? Seems like that's the only size they have in 15in.

      But I ran the 195/55/15 Comp2 for a couple of years and thought they were a good tire for everyday use. Great for the florida summer downpours, but also grippy enough for street driving. From friends who have driven on the DZ102 with their miatas they hated that tire and two friends said that said it was dangerous in the rain in normal driving. Not sure what their issue was, but one friend switched to an S drive for daily use and is happy now.
      Yah. The 195/50s rub in aggressive driving actually. I need to remove some offset, add more sway bar or run some flares.
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      04-15-2019 10:17 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Aw614 View Post
      I take it the 205/50/15 conti would be too wide/tall on a rabbit?
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      04-15-2019 11:15 AM #17
      It's probably not wide/short enough but there are a couple of euro-style summer tires in 175/65-15 (base Mini size). I have the Michelins and they don't look like much but they have been great and hold up well to on/off ramp attacks.

      https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...earDiameter=17
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      04-15-2019 11:29 AM #18
      G-MAX AS02 i had them on my G5 GOL and they were awesome, never doubted them in rain, and in hot it was hard for them to loose traction, it handled like a go kart and were pretty inexpensive. They make them in 195 50 16 thats what i was running on the car.

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      04-15-2019 01:47 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Bad Rabbit Habit View Post
      Yah. The 195/50s rub in aggressive driving actually. I need to remove some offset, add more sway bar or run some flares.
      FYI in my experience s.drives run wide so you might rub more

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      04-15-2019 01:51 PM #20
      ah, literally none of these.

      extreme contact sport if you must (and raise it to fit the 205), but the re71r is the ticket you want, also in 205. the 195 isnt as fast. running so low you can't fit a 205 on a car, is running it too low, period.
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      04-15-2019 02:38 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Bad Rabbit Habit View Post
      If I have more grip, I will end up using it. And on the street that is irresponsible.
      But if you have more grip, and you don't use it, then you're being more responsible.

      I haven't driven all of those tires, but I have driven Sean's 911 on S Drives. It was ok at best.
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      04-15-2019 03:11 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      ah, literally none of these.

      extreme contact sport if you must (and raise it to fit the 205), but the re71r is the ticket you want, also in 205. the 195 isnt as fast. running so low you can't fit a 205 on a car, is running it too low, period.
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    24. 04-15-2019 03:20 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      ah, literally none of these.

      extreme contact sport if you must (and raise it to fit the 205), but the re71r is the ticket you want, also in 205. the 195 isnt as fast. running so low you can't fit a 205 on a car, is running it too low, period.
      Believe it or not, not everyone is a blowhard trying to win in a 15k spec miata (that could easily win Runoffs) on the street.

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      04-15-2019 03:20 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Aw614 View Post
      I take it the 205/50/15 conti would be too wide/tall on a rabbit? Seems like that's the only size they have in 15in.

      But I ran the 195/55/15 Comp2 for a couple of years and thought they were a good tire for everyday use. Great for the florida summer downpours, but also grippy enough for street driving. From friends who have driven on the DZ102 with their miatas they hated that tire and two friends said that said it was dangerous in the rain in normal driving. Not sure what their issue was, but one friend switched to an S drive for daily use and is happy now.
      i have not seen good luck with the DZ102's...at that price point and sizing, you could just go straight to the star specs, which I've had fantastic luck with. the Comp2's are the budget "fun" tire of choice in these parts. this is relevant as in MI we get very regular rain.

      i'd also mention the Ventus Evo's are very solid, ran them on my s2000 for quite sometime. softer sidewall, but in Michigan with the roads, you want a little extra flex.
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    26. 04-15-2019 03:36 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by the_paddock View Post
      Believe it or not, not everyone is a blowhard trying to win in a 15k spec miata (that could easily win Runoffs) on the street.

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