VWVortex.com - Upgrade Suspension and still having issues...HELP
Username or Email Address
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up

    VWVortex


    Results 1 to 5 of 5

    Thread: Upgrade Suspension and still having issues...HELP

    1. Member
      Join Date
      Feb 17th, 2016
      Location
      Toronto, Ontario
      Posts
      265
      Vehicles
      2002 Audi TT Quattro Stage 1
      04-26-2019 10:59 PM #1
      Ok so here is the deal.

      bought a 2002 Audi TT 225 back in 2016. Here is the original thread:

      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...rove-a-2002-TT

      Anyways.... i was having suspension creaks, squeaks, and clunks. Typical for a 17 year old car that probably didn't have the suspension treated in a while.

      So fast forward to today (well a few weeks ago) and i've finally forked out the cash to upgrade the components underneath. Here's what we've tackled:

      Upgrades:

      - KW Suspension V1
      - PowerFlex poly Strut bushings
      - PowerFlex poly Sway Bar bushings (F&R)
      - PowerFlex poly Subframe bushings (F&R)
      - Gruven Rear Control Arms
      - Rear control arm bushings (OEM)
      - Front Control arms (Poly in rear part/OEM for front - this kit we had was for an mk4 so the fronts didnít fit the TT arms)
      - PowerFlex poly dog mount inserts (full refresh)
      - front ball joints
      - sway bar links (F&R)

      Remaining Parts to add:

      - trailing arm bushings (OEM)
      - rear bushings for upper control arms (OEM)
      - ECS Engine and Transmission mounts

      My mechanic and I are knocking our heads trying to figure out where some of the noise is still coming from. It happens mostly on bumpy city roads. Sounds like there is some tension on a component or like metal twisting in some cases in the rear. Sometimes it sounds like a hanging piece of metal bouncing on something. The front also has a clunk/squeak when i go over bumps. It really is annoying and hard to figure out.

      Does anyone have ANY insight as to what it may be? I'm really finding it hard to believe that after upgrading all these parts that there are still issues with the suspension. Would love some feedback and help.

      Thank you in advance

    2. Remove Advertisements

      Advertisements
       

    3. Member
      Join Date
      Aug 5th, 2002
      Location
      WA State
      Posts
      229
      Vehicles
      03 TT225, 76 Dasher 16V
      04-30-2019 11:51 AM #2
      Forgive me if I missed it, but I didn't see you mention the sway bar end links. Were they changed?


      So, I'm going through a similar issue as you, but I've only replaced the A-arms, and upper strut mounts, and ball joints and tie rod ends. I've done nothing in the rear, and no sway bar end links.

      I've got a slight "thud-thud-thud" happening ONLY when starting out in 1st or reverse. Not steering related.

      I bet, at the minimum, we both need sway bar end links, but I doubt that's the only issue.

    4. Member
      Join Date
      Feb 17th, 2016
      Location
      Toronto, Ontario
      Posts
      265
      Vehicles
      2002 Audi TT Quattro Stage 1
      05-08-2019 10:19 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by B1-16V View Post
      Forgive me if I missed it, but I didn't see you mention the sway bar end links. Were they changed?


      So, I'm going through a similar issue as you, but I've only replaced the A-arms, and upper strut mounts, and ball joints and tie rod ends. I've done nothing in the rear, and no sway bar end links.

      I've got a slight "thud-thud-thud" happening ONLY when starting out in 1st or reverse. Not steering related.

      I bet, at the minimum, we both need sway bar end links, but I doubt that's the only issue.
      Hey there! Thanks for the reply. Sorry for my delay but I was out of country. Just saw this now. Front end links were done. Only in the front.

      Itís very odd. I get the noise sporadically. Usually get the creakingnsound when I go over speed bumps. My mechanic messaged me a few days ago to tell me that some of the road noise was a bad wheel bearing so weíll probably do that and change the remaining upper rear control arm bushings while at it.

      Iím lost too..... I tried everything from removing the sunscreen for the trunk, to clicking in the passenger side seatbelt to stop it from knocking on the side of the interior. I think Iíll try to empty out the items in the trunk to see if itís maybe a lose tool thatís causing all the ruckus or the spare moving around.

      Seems odd that all this work and still getting creaks and thuds.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    5. Remove Advertisements

      Advertisements
       

    6. Member
      Join Date
      Aug 5th, 2002
      Location
      WA State
      Posts
      229
      Vehicles
      03 TT225, 76 Dasher 16V
      05-10-2019 12:42 PM #4
      At the risk of sounding like I'm high jacking your thread, (not my intent), I may have solved my noises. Thought I'd post in case this might help you or someone else.

      I try not to hold my breath on these sorts of things, but for now, my car is fixed of it's weird noises.

      3 separate issues.

      I found that my dogbone lower mount had come loose. I could shake the motor back and forth while grabbing the oil pan and tranny.
      I fixed the mount, and the noise was still there. I surely eliminated SOME of the noise, but not all of it.

      I took one sway bar link off, and went for a drive. Even with the ends worn out and loose, the noise was still there, so that wasn't it. (has been on another car I have).

      I then popped the hood and grabbed the intercooler pipe to see if the engine had any rocking from the top. Well, the intercooler pipe was clicking/loose in it's cradle mount.
      There is a washer that goes on top of the mount, not under it. (duh). I put the washer on top of the hold down clamp and no more rattle from the pipe.

      Then I got underneath again, and thought I'd put a socket to the Control Arm bolts. BINGO. The passenger side bolts were quite easy to turn, they had no torque on them. Not sure if they didn't get tightened all the way when doing the A-arms, or, if they came loose. I snugged them down, went for a drive, and all is well!
      If it happens again, I'll have to get some Loctite on them.

      No more thudding when driving up the rolled curb in front of my driveway, and no triple tapping noise/feel when starting from a dead stop. I think the thudding was the control arms, and the tapping when starting out was the intercooler pipe.

      Moral of the story of why I'm posting this in your thread, maybe your control arm bolts are not tight as they should be. Be sure to tighten while at ride height.
      I've had this exact same thing happen on a different make of car. They need to be tighter than it would seem.

    7. Member
      Join Date
      Feb 17th, 2016
      Location
      Toronto, Ontario
      Posts
      265
      Vehicles
      2002 Audi TT Quattro Stage 1
      05-15-2019 06:08 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by B1-16V View Post
      At the risk of sounding like I'm high jacking your thread, (not my intent), I may have solved my noises. Thought I'd post in case this might help you or someone else.

      I try not to hold my breath on these sorts of things, but for now, my car is fixed of it's weird noises.

      3 separate issues.

      I found that my dogbone lower mount had come loose. I could shake the motor back and forth while grabbing the oil pan and tranny.
      I fixed the mount, and the noise was still there. I surely eliminated SOME of the noise, but not all of it.

      I took one sway bar link off, and went for a drive. Even with the ends worn out and loose, the noise was still there, so that wasn't it. (has been on another car I have).

      I then popped the hood and grabbed the intercooler pipe to see if the engine had any rocking from the top. Well, the intercooler pipe was clicking/loose in it's cradle mount.
      There is a washer that goes on top of the mount, not under it. (duh). I put the washer on top of the hold down clamp and no more rattle from the pipe.

      Then I got underneath again, and thought I'd put a socket to the Control Arm bolts. BINGO. The passenger side bolts were quite easy to turn, they had no torque on them. Not sure if they didn't get tightened all the way when doing the A-arms, or, if they came loose. I snugged them down, went for a drive, and all is well!
      If it happens again, I'll have to get some Loctite on them.

      No more thudding when driving up the rolled curb in front of my driveway, and no triple tapping noise/feel when starting from a dead stop. I think the thudding was the control arms, and the tapping when starting out was the intercooler pipe.

      Moral of the story of why I'm posting this in your thread, maybe your control arm bolts are not tight as they should be. Be sure to tighten while at ride height.
      I've had this exact same thing happen on a different make of car. They need to be tighter than it would seem.
      Donít worry. No hi jacking here. Iím happy to hear stories in our quest for solutions.

      I find it hard to believe that we havenít tighten everything. My mechanic and I have gone over ever part underneath and tightened each screw as tight as possible and torqued them where needed. After today though, we definitely need to go over everything again.

      People think Iím going crazy and that itís all in my head but today I recorded four clips on my way home with the windows down and you can clearly hear how loud the creaking and cranking is. Iím lost as to what it could be.... have a listen and as always, any advice is appreciated. For a list of work weíve done please see first post. I donít know what it could be but itís obvious something is up:

      https://1drv.ms/v/s!AtxZ-eIRC9dSgqVb2DA7NVuxorfYvw

      https://1drv.ms/v/s!AtxZ-eIRC9dSgqVdw_BZr0HxDOcC7Q

      https://1drv.ms/v/s!AtxZ-eIRC9dSgqVcP8C4tUJPbYhPhQ

      https://1drv.ms/v/s!AtxZ-eIRC9dSgqVa66MjrncwwOMP0A


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
      Last edited by recaro19; 05-15-2019 at 06:34 PM.

    Similar Threads

    1. Just bought A4 and now having issues!!! HELP!!!!
      By jc412 in forum A4, S4, RS4 (B6 and B7)
      Replies: 7
      Last Post: 01-07-2012, 11:42 AM
    2. EPC Help!!! Just replaced throttle and still having issues!
      By guitahrzan in forum Golf IV & Jetta IV
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 03-04-2011, 04:39 PM
    3. EPC Help!!! Just replaced throttle and still having issues!
      By guitahrzan in forum 1.8T Engine Forum
      Replies: 2
      Last Post: 03-04-2011, 04:25 PM
    4. EPC Help!!! Just replaced throttle and still having issues!
      By guitahrzan in forum GTI 337/20th Anniversary/Jetta GLI Forum
      Replies: 0
      Last Post: 03-04-2011, 04:14 PM
    5. new parts and still having issues
      By dankvwguy in forum Golf I & Jetta I
      Replies: 6
      Last Post: 10-24-2007, 02:53 PM

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •