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      05-19-2019 11:26 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      Don't let its "Widowmaker" name worry you, just play it cool and remember how that rear end has a habit of breaking loose.
      I’ll be careful! I already have the true widowmaker, a 1986 911 Turbo. As long as you stay on throttle once you’ve committed to a corner, no problem!!

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      05-19-2019 11:34 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      OP, cool car!

      I don't know Porsches well. What makes this a hot rod? I see louvers. What do they mean to this car?
      Thanks! The “hotrod” label is typically used with Porsche guys as merely meaning modified and sometimes trying to evoke some badass-ness. Not sure it truly qualifies here, but it is significantly modified from stock with wider rear fenders, removal of side valances, custom gear shift and larger engine and loud exhaust, wider wheels and tires, stiffer suspension, and the custom louvers for cooling. The stock rear deck lid would have only the standard grille for cooling. Here is a stock 1977 pic for comparison.


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      05-19-2019 11:45 AM #28
      Outstanding car. The first time I opened this thread I saw the mismatch on the deck lid vs rest of the car and thought it was a bit shabby; a perusal through the BaT thread shows it is anything but.

      I look forward to a thorough thread about this car and what you do to it. Frankly, this price gives rise to the hope that these cars will be attainable by regular people again, not all $100k+.
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      05-19-2019 01:29 PM #29
      Congrats Dave, look forward to the project updates!
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      05-19-2019 01:54 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Your car looks fantastic! I may be hitting you up for some advice! My 1986 930 is bone stock so I've never done any modding to a car of that era. Noob!!
      Thanks, and anything I can do to help DO NOT be shy in asking!

      You're going to have fun with this one, no doubt!

    7. 05-19-2019 01:58 PM #31
      I remember when these were the red-headed stepchildren of 911s. The magnesium case has a bad reputation of pulling head studs and the thermal reactors were very problematic. They used to be the bottom of the barrel, now they're gaining serious traction.

      I don't see how getting rid of the original engine is a bad thing- not too many survived intact over time anyway. Bodywork is a little strange on this car- super wide rear tires and stock front is going to drive really weird. I'd say downsize the rears to a much more reasonable stagger and it will be a much more balanced car- they don't make enough power with a relatively stock SC engine to be an issue.

      Definitely a neat project car, I'll stay tuned to see what you end up doing to it.

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      05-19-2019 02:39 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by t44tq View Post
      Bodywork is a little strange on this car- super wide rear tires and stock front is going to drive really weird. I'd say downsize the rears to a much more reasonable stagger and it will be a much more balanced car- they don't make enough power with a relatively stock SC engine to be an issue.

      Definitely a neat project car, I'll stay tuned to see what you end up doing to it.
      Thanks! I'm not too worried about the larger rear setup, as I may offset that with a wider front setup (eventually - if I convert fully to RSR spec). But I will drive it and see what it's all about first, maybe downsize the tires a tad. Note the seller and the builder (car was worked on by ButziGear - speed shop in CT, and Black Horse Garage), swear that it is a good setup with all they've done. According to the speed shop Butzigear (on BaT):

      "As for suspension it has been lowered and Rebel Racing Coilovers with eibach springs have been added to the rear to help with / eliminate squat under load. The system was engineered with Clint at Rebel Racing and Ira at Tarett Engineering and it drives very well with the comfort of stock torsions and the support of adjustable springs in the rear (working with the torsion bars)."

    9. 05-19-2019 02:43 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Thanks! I'm not too worried about the larger rear setup, as I may offset that with a wider front setup (eventually - if I convert fully to RSR spec). But I will drive it and see what it's all about first, maybe downsize the tires a tad. Note the seller and the builder (car was worked on by ButziGear - speed shop in CT, and Black Horse Garage), swear that it is a good setup with all they've done. According to the speed shop Butzigear (on BaT):

      "As for suspension it has been lowered and Rebel Racing Coilovers with eibach springs have been added to the rear to help with / eliminate squat under load. The system was engineered with Clint at Rebel Racing and Ira at Tarett Engineering and it drives very well with the comfort of stock torsions and the support of adjustable springs in the rear (working with the torsion bars)."
      The parts they used are very good, not questioning the quality of the job at all- I just don't see how running a 205/315 stagger is in any way reasonable- definitely a setup for maximum understeer. I get that with the BMW M Coupes (clownshoe) as well- people put 12" wide wheels in the back with stock power and run a 235/315 stagger- silly. Stock on that one is 225/245 and it's still an understeering setup unless you start changing the suspension a lot. Maybe they stiffened up the back so much (to reduce the squat they describe) that you need that much stagger to keep the back end planted?

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      05-19-2019 02:46 PM #34
      Can't remember if I commented in the BaT thread, but just to be sure: Noice! Keep us posted on what you do with her.
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      05-19-2019 03:03 PM #35
      Sweet!! Nice buy. The car looks great, those fenders are where its at.

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      05-19-2019 05:03 PM #36
      Congrats!

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      05-19-2019 07:27 PM #37
      Jealous!

      Congratulations, Dave. Is this the thread for project updates as well? I gotta make sure I’m “in” for this one.
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      05-19-2019 08:13 PM #38
      Congrats!

      Any engine plans? I'm surprised it went north of $40k with a stock 170k motor with no (stated) recent work.

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      05-19-2019 08:38 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      Congrats!

      Any engine plans? I'm surprised it went north of $40k with a stock 170k motor with no (stated) recent work.
      The engine was replaced 10years ago with a 3L from a 1982 911SC, and has approx 80k miles on it. I got the receipts for the engine work.

      No engine plans for now. Just drive it and clean it up and see what happens. Possible all new exhaust.

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      Congrats, nice car👍👍

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      05-19-2019 09:27 PM #41
      I'm all aboard on this one. Nice buy Dave!
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      05-19-2019 10:06 PM #42
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      05-20-2019 06:32 AM #43
      Congrats! I've come clsoe to buying a 911 a couple of times recently as well - looking for that perfect Targa project.


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      05-20-2019 07:31 AM #44
      Get 9Eleven headlights for it instead of just clear lenses.
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      05-20-2019 10:45 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by TooFitToQuit View Post
      Get 9Eleven headlights for it instead of just clear lenses.
      I just looked them up, very cool LED option for older 911s. At about $2K per set, I'll have to wait to see if I'm keeping this one for a long time or modifying and selling with a couple years.


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      05-20-2019 10:58 AM #46
      Another option for headlights- are Flat 6 illumination.
      Have them on my 964 and they are great. There is a xenon or LED option. The Xenon option on mine out performs the headlights in our Audi's

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      05-20-2019 11:14 AM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by dubjager View Post
      Another option for headlights- are Flat 6 illumination.
      Have them on my 964 and they are great. There is a xenon or LED option. The Xenon option on mine out performs the headlights in our Audi's
      I like that they do a fluted lens.

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      05-20-2019 11:32 AM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Chapel View Post
      I like that they do a fluted lens.




      That's what I have and I just love it. At certain angles you can see the projector but not all and I like that it looks stock!

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      05-20-2019 12:11 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by dubjager View Post




      That's what I have and I just love it. At certain angles you can see the projector but not all and I like that it looks stock!
      What do they charge? I see their website is 'under construction'

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      05-20-2019 12:35 PM #50
      Congrats Dave, great buy!

      I am looking forward to seeing what you do with this one. Hopefully there will be a CnC again soon, I'd love to see it in person.

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