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      05-25-2019 04:41 PM #1
      It's officially a build thread; I just couldn't part it. This is what the car looked like in 1982 down to the color and trim package:



      I originally thought that it was another LE1Z Burnished Gold Metallic. There is no paint code sticker that I have found and nothing on the door VIN sticker either. Having consulted some color charts, I am now suspecting that it might be LA1V Sand Metallic, what do you think?
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      05-25-2019 05:26 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      For Sale, I have this beautifully complete, straight, rust-free and rebuildable CA blue plate mechanic's special. All MK1s are mechanic's specials.



      I bought this for parts, but It has been telling me that it's a builder. I decided if I was going to put any time or money into it, it had to be 100% cancer free. So far, I cut out the carpet to verify what I saw underneath: No-rust.













      I wanted to make sure, because it came with a bad windshield seal. So, I replaced that to keep water out from here on.













      This is a 1.6L diesel.





      Fuel filter last changed 10/05.



      Strut mounts are shot, but frame housings are perfect.



      This is a stock AC car with a partial delete, everything is still there except the compressor, and pullleys. It also has a fully functional Non-AC belt setup from a Non-AC car.



      Driver seat is worn and both fronts need restuffed, but restorable if you like original tweed.





      Rear window and seal are in excellent shape.



      Comes with Four Enkei aftermarket 13" (period correct) wheels with no curb damage and original Conti spare tire on steel rim.

      Brakes seem to work, but who knows how well. Same with transmission, goes into five gears + Reverse.

      Clean CA diesel title and current Non-op registration.
      Still for sale, I guess, but less so the more i work on it: Florence Nightingale effect.

      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      Thanks for all of the good advice folks. I ignored most of it, but thanks anyway.

      Here's what's going in the Jetta:

      https://youtu.be/629C4Lapf0c

      How I did it:



      With the 'Forklift Method', how to raise the front end up the rest of the way seemed obvious to me: Unhook the engine and re-attach to the engine mount bolts, and up we go:



      Nice little notch-back, I might have to keep it:



      Where it stands this morning:



      I have two more days. Planning to spend today cleaning up the engine compartment and maybe swapping the steering rack. If I swap the rack and complete front suspension, can I avoid an alignment?
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      So much for unmolested; trimmed the back of the top-plate to allow me to tuck the stock radiator front and center using the condenser mount spots as they are the exact same distance apart as the radiator mounts and same style. Look how it fills the space so nicely. This should eliminate the need for a radiator card or side dam. Gives me space for Frank's over sized battery too, as the radiator was previously touching the edge of the tray.



      Necessitated change to wireless hood release for clearance, Colonel Mustard provided (miraculously undamaged).



      Now I'm not gonna want to put the bumper back on; all that cooling potential wasted... or maybe I can cut out some vent scoops...
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      Started up Frankinstyn's monster 1.9L (1Y) in my Butte Whip Jetta (Mutt).



      Almost everything sourced from either Colonel Mustard or The Butte Whip. Next will be brakes and suspension swap.


      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      So, I think that I have the basic cluster sorted now:



      Got temp gauge, fuel gauge, oil light, alternator light, glow plugs. The minimum for safe running in IMO.



      That L shaped circuit board thing is the oil pressure control unit. Bentley has a lovely little delete procedure,at least as far as getting little gremlin out of the cluster in a physical sense, which was very helpful. Having only ever had to delete this system on a later US built model; I found this to be a bit trickier. Not only because you have to take the speedo out to get to it instead of just pulling a relay, but because the blue black wire does not bypass the unit on to the LED on it's own when you remove it. One must jump it. As it turns out, (IME) it also helps to go ahead and scratch out the connection from the bulb to whatever it was going to in the laminated wiring loom. Now I have a light that comes on (flashing, no less) when blue black wire is grounded. $7 Air cooled oil pressure sender on order.

      Then there is this:



      When I first plugged in the cluster with what I think is a stock upper oil pressure sending unit for a rabbit (open circuit no pressure, ground with pressure), I was hopeful when I got a light, flashed a bit and then it went out. Checked the owner manual above and thought well great, it's working like it's supposed to, move on. While running the engine and letting the radiator fan cycle on and off (), pulled the wire off the sending unit and nothing on the dash. Revved up engine, still nothing. Sending unit showing ground. Blue black wire has continuity to the cluster. turn the key on and it "checks the bulb". That's it. doesn't matter whether you are plugged into a sending unit of any kind.

      I think of the previous owner (Jetta owner that is) secure for 70,000 miles after his head swap that his oil pressure light was working as it should. Luckily he checked his oil frequently, he was a meticulous type. I have his mileage calcs and receipts from the 90s and early 2000s. And from his account his oil pump never clogged up or otherwise failed either, so it's all water under the bridge, but it's one of those things that make you say Hmmm.

      Anyway, glad I got rid of that little bugger. Is there someone out there that loves their stock control unit. While I'm at it, let me just say Pfft to the upshift control module as well, even if upshifting does save fuel. I'll decide darn it! And a pox on automatic transmissions!

      ...Oh, sorry. Anyway, whatever.
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      Modified the grille for the external hood release.



      Then I disassembled and blasted steering column, pedal and other random parts.



      Treated them with rust-reformer.



      Next, reassemble, paint, bolt-on.
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      Got the steering column back together and into the car, which made room on the bench.

      Just because the dash wasn't cracked, doesn't mean it didn't need some restoration.

      I don't think they were thinking 40 years out when they decided to go with cardboard for the dash frame. Some of the attachment points disintegrated:



      So, I got busy with the fiberglass and jelly:

      ...and that pretty much brings you up to date.
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      05-25-2019 06:35 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      I originally thought that it was another LE1Z Burnished Gold Metallic. There is no paint code sticker that I have found and nothing on the door VIN sticker either. Having consulted some color charts, I am now suspecting that it might be LA1V Sand Metallic, what do you think?

      Looks close to LE1Y Sandstone Metallic offered in 81 and 83.

      This chart seems to back up LA1V Sand Metallic as the Jetta had that paint option in 82. http://www.gti16v.com/vwcc1982.htm



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      05-25-2019 06:53 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by absenth View Post
      Looks close to LE1Y Sandstone Metallic offered in 81 and 83.

      This chart seems to back up LA1V Sand Metallic as the Jetta had that paint option in 82. http://www.gti16v.com/vwcc1982.htm
      I think I can rule out the LE1Y as I have two of those for comparison. They are a lighter, more silver, less gold color. I have been using my LE1Z touch-up paint on the Jetta around the windshield and under the hood, with good results. At first I thought it was just faded.

      The link that you provided was one of the sources that suggested to me that I have a LA1V. Note LE1Z is not listed for the 1982 Jetta.
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      05-25-2019 11:49 PM #5
      Wow, I didn't think you had another 3 projects in the works too...

      That Jetta is looking great by the way!
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      06-02-2019 12:54 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Blue-Civic-Hybrid View Post
      Wow, I didn't think you had another 3 projects in the works too...

      That Jetta is looking great by the way!
      Thanks! I like to work on cars and other mechanical equipment for the short term gratification. My main project for the past ten years has been making a doug-fir timber-frame home that I have logged and milled most of the timbers for, here on the estate. Not moving in, but might actually have the frame done this year and a proper roof should be soon to follow, like next year or something...

      I've gotten in the habit of taking a couple hours of shop time in the morning, before driving the LE1Z to go work for The Man.



      Some things are easy, like the shift linkage. I was sweating it after all of the posts recently about linkage problems and I've been there before myself. If you have an 'issue' it can be tricky to figure what's gone wrong and then get things right again. Amazingly, with fingers crossed, I got all five and reverse with a combination of Colonel Mustard and Butte Whip parts on the first try, without adjusting anything. I'll have to drive it before being able to tune it better than it is.



      Weighted short shift with adjustable linkz.

      As shown in the first photo, the brake servo swap is not going quite as smoothly. Had to sawzall the pin out of the pedal coupler on The Colonel this morning. Well I did anyway. maybe could have spun the coupler off the rod, if I had looked at the Jetta unit, that I already had off, more closely.
      So I marred the coupler, which spun off easily. Then spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to get the nice looking nickel plated coupler off the Jetta unit. Used a torch, stationary vice and big wrench, failed. Then had to go to work. Tomorrow: vice and impact wrench. Have the pin from the Jetta: oddly enough came out easily and is in great shape.
      Also installed a few large cosmetic items for fitment and just to get them out of the way:







      They will need to come off for paint, but I can enjoy them until then.

      The first photo also shows my 12v portable dent puller sitting next to my test tailgate. Part of my plan to straighten out the bed, inner fenders,and inner tailgate on the LE1Z. This is model 2.0. My first starter relay solenoid wasn't letting go, too much amperage I think, so I got a big amp isolator from an audio store. I use a similar one for my glow-plug relay on the F250 which eats the stock relays for breakfast.
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      06-02-2019 09:58 PM #7
      that missinglinks extension on the shift relay (short shift) kind of irks me
      ive always opted to weld on an extension cut off a spare i find in a junkyard
      a lot of these the shaft is worn or the bottom is foobared, so always pick and choose


      yes the cardboard inside the german dashes are really poor after 30+ years
      but some fiberglass kit makes easy work of it once you have it out

      i also find it funny they mounted a star ground terminal onto a metal bar in the dash
      but..... it doesnt ground to anything.....

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      06-05-2019 03:14 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by rabbitnothopper View Post
      yes the cardboard inside the german dashes are really poor after 30+ years
      but some fiberglass kit makes easy work of it once you have it out

      i also find it funny they mounted a star ground terminal onto a metal bar in the dash
      but..... it doesnt ground to anything.....
      Ha, I was thinking about retracting that statement about the cardboard. As you say the fiberglass repair was so easy and effective, I don't know what i was complaining about. <img src="https://www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/biggrin_upper.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin Animated" class="inlineimg" />

      No goofy non-ground star connector on the Butte Whip, but I think there is one on Colonel Mustard, just got a peek at it so far...

      Hey, have you seen accelerator cables like this before:



      Not sure if they are for an early model or they are aftermarket or what. I have two, they came with the Jetta. Supposedly bought at an estate sale along with some early diesel heads in the early 2000s. Having just lost a clip mid-flight recently, I like the idea of nuts and washers on threaded tube.



      Not just German: West German. Pre-1991 I suppose. Still, most VW parts from the 80s just say Germany on them.
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      06-27-2019 09:32 PM #9
      Recent work includes:

      *Replaced the radiator with a NOS Brazilian because the Jetta Turbo/AC original had an annoying little leak. No leaks now.

      *Two new Cardone axles. Not an Italian part company I think, more like "Is that car-done yet?". With prices like these, I can't justify spending time working on my stack of functional axles with bad boots and I don't want all my clean parts spattered with grease. Used really nice quality original mounting hardware from the Jetta.

      *NOS clutch cable from the previous Jetta owner's estate sale stuff.

      *Hooked up the accelerator cable to the rebuilt pedal. Then I mounted the steering wheel and driver seat. I think you know where this is going. Here's a walk-around:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcQc1JS4Jns

      I accepted a work detail to Montana that might last up to four months, so amongst other loose ends that need to be tied up, I decided the best thing for the Butte Whip was to be on the ground and mobile. All unfinished or uninstalled parts are either in the cab or in the trunk. So, if for some reason, I don't get to pick this up again soon, it should be a manageable project or a sacrifice sale is always easier when the car runs and drives with all parts boxed and labeled.

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      06-28-2019 09:02 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      Two new Cardone axles. Not an Italian part company I think, more like "Is that car-done yet?". With prices like these, I can't justify spending time working on my stack of functional axles with bad boots and I don't want all my clean parts spattered with grease.
      I get that the cost is hard to beat. Keep saying that when you are on the side of the road wondering why the thing will not move again. Fortunately it's a diesel so I doubt if they will be stressed much.

      I worked on a BMW the other day, the CV boot was starting to crack. Being a first time client, he had is own axle shaft. He bought it for $50. The good OEM boot kit I got, listed for the same price. There is really something wrong when a good quality boot kit cost as much a some cheap Chinese complete axle shaft. How much are the Chinese selling those shafts for? $10? Can you really get a good axle for that price?

      No, I did not install his axle.

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      06-28-2019 09:41 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post

      I get that the cost is hard to beat. Keep saying that when you are on the side of the road wondering why the thing will not move again. Fortunately it's a diesel so I doubt if they will be stressed much.
      I am sure an actual roadside failure would change my tune and I do feel some guilt, but I have had surprisingly good luck with these and other obscenely cheap parts; when, by weight, these folks should be losing money just shipping it to me. Other parts that cost less than shipping these days: radiators and fenders. Are these items made by children working in factories for pennies a day? It boggles the mind.

      My preferred hoarder conspiracy theory is that warehouses are unloading these parts because of obsolescence and once the existing stock is gone, that will be it and we will all be rebuilding axles to the tune of $250 a side.

      Regardless, short of a mid-flight lock-up, axles are about the easiest part to swap. You don't have to take anything else off, heck I might just have Amazon same-day drone-drop me another one on the side of the road and change it there. Piston rings on the other hand....
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      07-03-2019 11:07 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      Hey, have you seen accelerator cables like this before:



      Not sure if they are for an early model or they are aftermarket or what. I have two, they came with the Jetta. Supposedly bought at an estate sale along with some early diesel heads in the early 2000s. Having just lost a clip mid-flight recently, I like the idea of nuts and washers on threaded tube.
      The cable on my '76 is like those, but without the rubber bushes. Just metal nuts and washers.

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      07-03-2019 01:26 PM #14
      Looks and sounds like the car runs awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing more! Are you planning a general restoration?
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      07-03-2019 09:33 PM #15
      Cardones?
      They are from a little village named Cardonia.
      Which is right outside Beijing.

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      What part of Montana?
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      07-03-2019 09:57 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Muldermutt View Post
      Cardones?
      They are from a little village named Cardonia.
      Which is right outside Beijing.

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      What part of Montana?
      Wisdom. About sixty air miles SW of Butte, in the Big Hole Valley.<img src="https://www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

      "Mountain trappers called the big flat areas between mountains "holes" The more common name these days is valley but hole has stuck in a few spots such as Jackson Hole and the Big Hole southwest of Butte. (Editor's note: for some reason, the area between the mountains near Butte is known as the Big Hole River near Wise RiverSummit Valley, not the Butte Valley and definitely not the Butte Hole.)"-ButteAmerica.com
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      07-03-2019 09:59 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by MattRabbit View Post
      Looks and sounds like the car runs awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing more! Are you planning a general restoration?
      Thanks! Yes, Going all the way, eventually.
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      Quote Originally Posted by thegave View Post
      The cable on my '76 is like those, but without the rubber bushes. Just metal nuts and washers.
      I suspected it might be an older model thing. Your turboed brown beauty is a 76 then? Putting it all together...
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      while im logged in.

      wanted to say nice work dude. keep it up!

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      07-04-2019 06:21 AM #20
      "lifetime warranty"
      which means it will break and leave you stranded

      unfortunately i learned that the outer joint isnt always clean or greased......
      its clamped so you would "assume" hey i dont need to check this and add grease
      so yeah, when it melts and breaks the bearing cage, youre toast.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rabbitnothopper View Post
      unfortunately i learned that the outer joint isnt always clean or greased......
      its clamped so you would "assume" hey i dont need to check this and add grease
      so yeah, when it melts and breaks the bearing cage, youre toast.
      --axles
      I've always wondered about that. They appear to be single use bands, so I 'assume' that there is grease in there. If not, there's probably at least some cosmoline preservative. I guess I'm a gamblin man.
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      wanted to say nice work dude. keep it up! <img src="https://www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
      Thanks! Watching your progress on Greta. &#x1f44d;
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      07-05-2019 12:35 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by mokoosh View Post
      I suspected it might be an older model thing. Your turboed brown beauty is a 76 then? Putting it all together...
      Yep. All the early-car idiosyncrasies.

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      10-19-2019 01:37 PM #24
      With one hour to go, it was under $5500. I was thinking maybe I was crazy; thinking that a Jetta could be worth much. I was leaning back towards no paint, just clean and patina....

      https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...wagen-jetta-2/

      Whoa baby: $17,000.00! Time and money justified. Plans: Rubber seals: $800, carpet: $200, paint: $1-2K, upholstery: $500, time: infinity.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rabbitnothopper View Post
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      11-02-2019 11:17 AM #25


      Fit checked my new stainless vent surrounds from across the pond for a little motivation.

      Gonna pull her out of storage and get back into the brake and suspension swap over the next days, weeks, months...
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      Quote Originally Posted by rabbitnothopper View Post
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