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    1. Member Uber Wagon's Avatar
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      06-11-2019 03:22 PM #1
      Blast was so big it set off airbags in nearby cars. Is this the end of the Hydrogen? Stay tuned.



      A hydrogen refueling station exploded and stood in flames yesterday in Sandvika, Norway, which could make June 10, 2019 the day when the perception about hydrogen stations and hydrogen fuel cell cars, in general, will forever change.

      According to reports from the Uno-X station, the explosion was huge. It triggered airbags in nearby cars and caused the necessity to close off the busy E18 and E16 intersection. A safety zone of 500 meters was recommended by the fire service.

      The good news is that there are no reports about direct injuries, but some reports say two people were sent to the emergency room because of injuries sustained from airbags in their cars.

      "“It is probably a tank that has exploded at the hydrogen station next to the police station at Kjorbo,” The Fire Services tells the local newspaper Budstikka."

      "“E18 near the site is closed in both directions due to the danger of explosion. The E16 at the Bjornegarden tunnel in Barum is closed for the same reason,” The Road Traffic Central tweets Tweets."
      The situation started to normalize at 22 o'clock:
      "E18 is now open again and the fire service will have good control of the fire, they write on Twitter at 22 o'clock."
      The cause of the explosion is not yet known as it needs to be investigated.

      Because of that, Uno-X closed its two other stations with hydrogen in Norway, while carmakers - Toyota and Hyundai - temporarily stopped sales of FCVs (well, only a few per month were usually sold anyway). Owners of FCVs are expected to get loaner cars.

      Taking into consideration how few hydrogen refueling stations are installed around the world, with this explosion, the average number of explosions per station will probably be orders of magnitude higher than for any other fuel. Not a good thing if you intend to promote FCVs.

      We were often criticizing hydrogen fuel cell cars as a poor alternative for all-electric, because of low energy efficiency, high cost and lack of refueling infrastructure. As the charging times decreased in new BEVs thanks to ultra-fast chargers and the range on a single charge increased, it seemed that FCVs will never have a chance to take off. Any issues with safety (especially if repeated) only adds to the challenge.
      https://insideevs.com/news/354223/hy...tion-explodes/
      https://norwaytoday.info/news/hydrog...fire-sandvika/

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      06-11-2019 03:39 PM #2
      Quote Originally Posted by Uber Wagon View Post


      But on a more serious note this makes me sad even though I think hydrogen is a non-starter.
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      06-11-2019 03:40 PM #3
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    4. 06-11-2019 03:53 PM #4
      Its not as if batteries don't explode.

      Hydrogen just cant seem to catch a break

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      06-11-2019 04:02 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by jakeyjohn1 View Post
      Its not as if batteries don't explode.

      Hydrogen just cant seem to catch a break
      They don't. They burn and you usually have hours before they start. If you're involved in even a minor accident I wouldn't park the car in the attached garage, that's for sure!

      Gas doesn't explode either, but it does burn mightily. An empty gas tank can explode, but doesn't have a huge amount of energy, though it can throw flaming liquid gas around.
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    6. 06-11-2019 04:11 PM #6
      EVs creating a nuclear like meltdown and now hydrogen stations exploding.......

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      06-12-2019 08:21 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      They don't. They burn
      The industry accepted term is conflagration.

      Although Spiral Wrapped cells can occasionally explode with some force. I have seen videos of packs of 18650's going off like a pack of firecrackers.
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    8. 06-16-2019 12:15 PM #8
      Sorry, if my choice is a full charged battery or a high-pressure full Hydrogen tank for fire safety - Battery wins.

      Add in that it takes way more energy to make Hydrogen than it gives back and its not a great idea for the eco-system.

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      06-12-2019 10:07 AM #10
      Hydrogen was the injured deer flailing on the side of the road. This event is the cop coming along and putting it out of its misery. Finally.

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      06-12-2019 12:29 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by ChillOutPossum View Post
      Hydrogen was the injured deer flailing on the side of the road. This event is the cop coming along and putting it out of its misery. Finally.
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