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      06-11-2019 11:09 PM #2
      Can I daily this in the US?
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      06-12-2019 12:23 AM #3
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      Says it’s road legal. Assuming some kit car rule.
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      06-12-2019 01:07 AM #5
      That thing looks like it should be on the grid in Le Mans

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      06-12-2019 01:29 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by rickandshana View Post
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      I was thinking HEB and Twin Liquors.
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      06-12-2019 06:43 AM #7
      Throw some sponsor stickers and some war paint on and that thing would look like a modern Group C car.

      I want one.
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      06-12-2019 08:50 AM #8
      Love it. My favorite part from the FAQ:

      "Is there a PDK option?

      No, the Ultima RS is a real driver’s car and therefore is only available with a six speed manual shift gearbox and a clutch pedal."


      I've seen an Ultima GTR in person, and unfortunately they do still look very kit car in person. Perhaps fit and finish is a bit improved with this model.

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      06-12-2019 09:44 AM #9
      Uh oh: “Bespoke”....”self-assembled”....groan. I would be curious what transmission/transaxle they are using that can handle 1200hp—I’m guessing a Porsche. Would be fun to put together-sorry...self-assemble for sure...

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      06-12-2019 09:45 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      Love it. My favorite part from the FAQ:

      "Is there a PDK option?

      No, the Ultima RS is a real driver’s car and therefore is only available with a six speed manual shift gearbox and a clutch pedal."


      I've seen an Ultima GTR in person, and unfortunately they do still look very kit car in person. Perhaps fit and finish is a bit improved with this model.
      hah, awesome.

      Is it a sequential or H-pattern manual? I think a motorcycle style sequential would be pretty damn cool in a car like this.

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      06-12-2019 09:48 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by danny_16v View Post
      Says it’s road legal. Assuming some kit car rule.
      Yes, I believe you can buy the chassis complete but without engine installed. You (or a local builder assist shop) then get the engine installed and you're good to go, register it as a homebuilt. Some states are harder than others for this, but Arizona in particular is especially easy for registration of homebuilt cars.

      Side note: I decided to have a quick look at how old the GTR is. Turns out the first one rolled out in 1983, so 36 years ago now. There's just something timeless about the shape and they keep making little tweaks and updates to keep it from looking stale, at least to my eyes.

      As for the people complaining about the fit and finish, it's a trackday special. You're going to get it scratched up, possibly bust body panels, and repaired a few times if you're really doing track events all the time anyway. I don't do track events anymore for financial reasons but when I did, pretty much every dedicated track car had some wonky fit and finish, regardless of what it looked like when it was new. It just kind of goes with the mission and purpose of these cars. If that's not what you're looking for then there's plenty of other alternatives for ten times as much money that have significantly better fit and finish and interior appointments.

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      06-12-2019 09:54 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by AZGolf View Post

      As for the people complaining about the fit and finish, it's a trackday special. You're going to get it scratched up, possibly bust body panels, and repaired a few times if you're really doing track events all the time anyway. I don't do track events anymore for financial reasons but when I did, pretty much every dedicated track car had some wonky fit and finish, regardless of what it looked like when it was new. It just kind of goes with the mission and purpose of these cars. If that's not what you're looking for then there's plenty of other alternatives for ten times as much money that have significantly better fit and finish and interior appointments.
      Eh- kit car look is a different sort of look than a beat up track car. It's more that from a far it might look like a crazy exotic, but even a relatively untrained eye will be able to tell it's not quite up to production car standards when viewed up close. But you are absolutely right that this car is about outright speed and you are not paying for fit and finish. My hope was simply that it was a bit better on the new model.

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      06-12-2019 10:40 AM #13
      This seems pointless to me. I'd gladly take the "base" version with "only" 500HP/ton.

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      06-12-2019 10:43 AM #14
      [QUOTE=Dieselstation;113435887]

      https://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Models/UltimaRS

      Kit car lol..

    16. 06-12-2019 11:01 AM #15
      When you take it to the jiffy-lube to get a tire rotation, looks like they might be able to do it w/o getting anything backwards.
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      06-12-2019 11:12 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      This seems pointless to me. I'd gladly take the "base" version with "only" 500HP/ton.
      For a real-world equivalent, that's better ratio than a GT2 RS - which has 690hp and weighs 3241lbs (per Porsche website).
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      06-12-2019 11:25 AM #17
      Not kit car. Everybody relax.

      As for deployable horsepower, that's another matter. Does anybody really need wheelspin in 6th gear?

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      06-12-2019 12:25 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by DerSpiegel View Post
      Not kit car. Everybody relax.

      As for deployable horsepower, that's another matter. Does anybody really need wheelspin in 6th gear?
      I think deployable horsepower gets to the root of the issue. Once the novelty of 6th gear wheelspin wears off what are you left with? This thing is probably undrivable on the street and not much better on a race track. At a runway race the aero and track based suspension seem out of place. What is this car for?

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      06-12-2019 01:11 PM #19
      Oh you said Ultima!


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    22. 06-12-2019 01:46 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      I think deployable horsepower gets to the root of the issue. Once the novelty of 6th gear wheelspin wears off what are you left with? This thing is probably undrivable on the street and not much better on a race track. At a runway race the aero and track based suspension seem out of place. What is this car for?

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      06-12-2019 01:48 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      Can I daily this in the US?
      Yes if you trade it in for an Evora, Cayman, etc.

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      06-12-2019 02:11 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      I think deployable horsepower gets to the root of the issue. Once the novelty of 6th gear wheelspin wears off what are you left with? This thing is probably undrivable on the street and not much better on a race track. At a runway race the aero and track based suspension seem out of place. What is this car for?
      You can option with a 430hp LS3 if you don't want 6th gear wheelspin. Basically, you just option the LS/LT of your choice, and they are trumping 1200hp because that's the most powerful LT they could find a builder willing to sell in crate form.
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      06-12-2019 02:12 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by DerSpiegel View Post
      Not kit car. Everybody relax.

      As for deployable horsepower, that's another matter. Does anybody really need wheelspin in 6th gear?
      According to the website, you have the option of buying it as a kit or assembled package. For U.S. purposes, I believe you'd need to do the kit option (or at least have it ship without the motor installed).

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      06-12-2019 02:15 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      You can option with a 430hp LS3 if you don't want 6th gear wheelspin. Basically, you just option the LS/LT of your choice, and they are trumping 1200hp because that's the most powerful LT they could find a builder willing to sell in crate form.
      I know, I said that's the version I would take.

      I guess my point is just because you can (put a 1200HP crate motor into an Ultima) doesn't mean you should

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