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    1. Member 96mkIIIGTI's Avatar
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      06-12-2019 11:09 PM #1
      After years of searching it seems like I finally found an EIP exhaust for sale... maybe.

      The Story behind the exhaust is that it’s an early EIP and doesn’t have the EIP branded tips... everything I can see is that all EIPs have rounded mufflers...

      Can anyone confirm by the photos before I make a huge mistake ?


      Exhaust for sale - looks more like a Milltek Muffler to me, but the real outlet is different.


      Actual EIP exhaust



      Milltek Exhaust for reference





      What are y’alls thoughts ?


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      06-12-2019 11:29 PM #2
      Your right looks like milltek. Here’s my eip I polished few years back. Best sounded exhaust imo!




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      06-13-2019 05:56 AM #3
      Would you like to sell it? Haha


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      06-13-2019 10:23 AM #4
      IDK why you would want an EIP exhaust. Dude blew up at least 3 engines testing out tunes. I wouldn't trust anything with the EIP namesake.

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      06-13-2019 10:38 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by gloaming88 View Post
      IDK why you would want an EIP exhaust. Dude blew up at least 3 engines testing out tunes. I wouldn't trust anything with the EIP namesake.
      X2, I remember the early days and I don't think that first pic looks anything like the EIP shown.
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      06-13-2019 11:50 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by gloaming88 View Post
      IDK why you would want an EIP exhaust. Dude blew up at least 3 engines testing out tunes. I wouldn't trust anything with the EIP namesake.
      I hear that - but it’s like a “period correct” exhaust for that car. I was going to order a Lucifer from the UK - and might still do that - I saw this one and was like hmmm why not. BUT i hear where you’re coming from and appreciate the feedback


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      06-13-2019 11:53 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by quaudi View Post
      X2, I remember the early days and I don't think that first pic looks anything like the EIP shown.
      After looking at it more that’s why I was thinking it was an older milltek possibly based on the muffler and resonator style


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      06-13-2019 02:30 PM #8
      Period correct? Are we planning a concours type vehicle here?
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      06-13-2019 03:12 PM #9
      It actually appears to be more of an old Blue Flame exhaust setup.

      The crease on the muffler, hanger locations, pipe bends for the tips and the flange connection from resonator to muffler are all the same...Bill ran the same one back in the day and posted some info on his site, if you want to check it out more.
      There also seem to be more videos and threads from the Mk5 R32 crowd vs. the Mk4.. so you may not find many decent sound clips of this version.

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      http://www.billswebspace.com/vwr32.htm

      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...t-install-pics

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      06-13-2019 04:14 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by gloaming88 View Post
      IDK why you would want an EIP exhaust. Dude blew up at least 3 engines testing out tunes. I wouldn't trust anything with the EIP namesake.
      An exhaust isn't going to blow up your car. I had the EIP on my old R as I thought it was the best sounding.

      The EIP has laser etched EIP logo's on top of each exhaust tip.

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      06-13-2019 09:05 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by quaudi View Post
      Period correct? Are we planning a concours type vehicle here?

      Of course! Who wouldn’t ? Lol


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      06-13-2019 09:16 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Vee-DubbVR6 View Post
      It actually appears to be more of an old Blue Flame exhaust setup.

      The crease on the muffler, hanger locations, pipe bends for the tips and the flange connection from resonator to muffler are all the same...Bill ran the same one back in the day and posted some info on his site, if you want to check it out more.
      There also seem to be more videos and threads from the Mk5 R32 crowd vs. the Mk4.. so you may not find many decent sound clips of this version.

      References -

      http://www.billswebspace.com/vwr32.htm

      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...t-install-pics
      You’re totally right! I actually stumbled across his page when I was looking for EIP pictures - his page popped for his trans mount. But you seem spot on


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      Yesterday 12:21 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
      An exhaust isn't going to blow up your car. I had the EIP on my old R as I thought it was the best sounding.

      The EIP has laser etched EIP logo's on top of each exhaust tip.
      x 2...EIP's logo was on each tip. Had one for a while but entirely too loud for a NA setup.

      Now if I only had held onto it when I went turbo...

      And yes...that's a Blue Flame exhaust. Had one of those as well right up until the point the baffles let loose.
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      Yesterday 05:54 AM #14
      i dont think that's a milltek exhaust

      the back box looks a bit small, and the way the centre pipe joins the back back is also different.


      my milltek back back is from 2003

    17. Yesterday 06:46 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by gloaming88 View Post
      IDK why you would want an EIP exhaust. Dude blew up at least 3 engines testing out tunes. I wouldn't trust anything with the EIP namesake.
      If he was testing tunes, what makes you think it was this exhaust that caused engine failures?

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      Yesterday 07:00 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Gti Fly View Post
      i dont think that's a milltek exhaust

      the back box looks a bit small, and the way the centre pipe joins the back back is also different.


      my milltek back back is from 2003
      I think we’ve officially confirmed it’s a blue flame


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    19. Yesterday 07:35 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Sagginwagen View Post
      If he was testing tunes, what makes you think it was this exhaust that caused engine failures?
      LOL - The exhaust made him blow up the engines.. ! Everyone knows this.. Tunes don't matter..

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      Yesterday 08:27 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Sagginwagen View Post
      If he was testing tunes, what makes you think it was this exhaust that caused engine failures?
      I didn't imply the exhaust would blow up an engine. I stated that I wouldn't want anything associated with EIP. They had a history of lying and cheating their customers that is well documented. Their blowing up of some engines from tunes/turbos was just one example. I thought this was very well known here on vortex?

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      Yesterday 09:55 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by gloaming88 View Post
      I didn't imply the exhaust would blow up an engine. I stated that I wouldn't want anything associated with EIP. They had a history of lying and cheating their customers that is well documented. Their blowing up of some engines from tunes/turbos was just one example. I thought this was very well known here on vortex?

      It is to those of us who have had them since 04. But there are way more new owners of pre owned on here now. There were hydrolocked and blown up motors among other things due to their products and you are correct on their history. I too would/will stay away from anything EIP. There are many reliable alternatives out there today. And Op, glad you got an ID on that system.
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      Yesterday 02:59 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by quaudi View Post
      It is to those of us who have had them since 04. But there are way more new owners of pre owned on here now. There were hydrolocked and blown up motors among other things due to their products and you are correct on their history. I too would/will stay away from anything EIP. There are many reliable alternatives out there today. And Op, glad you got an ID on that system.
      You guys are nuts. EIP had some excellent fabrication guys. Anyone with half a brain knew the risks of using thier cold air intakes and driving through deep puddles. Thier exhausts were always good as well. I do agree even the street was too loud for na cars, but you never saw anyone complain of the welds cracking. Plus they used super thin wall stainless, making it the lightest system out there. So they couldn't tune for ****, and allegedly used nitrous to cheat dyno numbers, just hearing the name doesnt make the hardware suck. End rant...

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      Yesterday 05:33 PM #21
      We are all entitled to our opinion and you know what those are.
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    24. Yesterday 06:06 PM #22
      In honor of the fabricators. I’ve been running their exhaust since 2006. No issues. So my vote is it’s a quality piece.

      Most of the facts seem to be out in the open about Rich. Sadly he has passed and I refuse to speak poorly of those that I didn’t have any direct negative dealings/experience with. However, I do know others that did.
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    25. Yesterday 06:42 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by gloaming88 View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by Sagginwagen View Post
      If he was testing tunes, what makes you think it was this exhaust that caused engine failures?
      I didn't imply the exhaust would blow up an engine. I stated that I wouldn't want anything associated with EIP. They had a history of lying and cheating their customers that is well documented. Their blowing up of some engines from tunes/turbos was just one example. I thought this was very well known here on vortex?
      Got ch’ya, it didn’t make sense when I read it.

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      Man I really opened up some old wounds for all of y’all didn’t I? Haha


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