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Judging by the responses in this thread, there really isn't anything that can match the C8 in terms of performance, for the money, including used- excluding heavily modified cars. i.e. No stripped out APR Stage III RS3s with no interior.
My gripe with the Corvette is that it feels big- it's actually not larger than a contemporary 911, but it doesn't feel that way. The 996/997 is about the perfect size of car for me. The Corvette isn't much larger, but because you sit behind that long hood, it feels like it's huge. The mid-engine layout of the C8 might fix that, but I don't think it's going to hide its bulk very well. 911s are good about feeling nimble and light, even though they're not that light.
But subjective preferences aside, it's very hard to fault the C8- a 997 Turbo doesn't have the performance of the C8 and it's not exactly easy to find a clean 997 Turbo for $60-70k. 996 GT3s trade in this range or slightly more, that also doesn't have the performance of a C8. We're also talking about 10 year old (997 Turbo) or 15 year old (996 GT3) cars.
It has to excite your senses and draw you in. Not saying this can't. But there are def some new and a lot of used cars that obviously aren't as fast, but just look better and have a 3rd pedal option. I mean it's not like a C7 GS or Evora 400 are slow.
owner of a plain ol' C7 Stingray here.
Like others, I think Chevy hit it out of the park with the C8. At the same time though, I'm curious why most think the C8 is such a game changer.
Honestly, I've never driven a rear or mid-engined car. Is the difference THAT noticeable? even on the street?
I mean a C7 Z06 will do 0-60 in under 3 seconds, pull some crazy numbers on the skidpad, and dare I say look pretty mean as well. I think it's cool that there will be exotic-looking mid-engine cars on the street everywhere.... is the exotic LOOK the real draw?
This year I replaced the wheels/tires on my Cayman from the stock 17" size to the option S model 18" size that are 30mm wider front and rear and added much stickier tires (Conti Extreme Contact Sports). The car grips like crazy but now the "light rotation feel" has been diminished. I think the car might have been more fun on the street on the narrower tires, so perhaps the limits of the C8 will be so high that street drivers will never really experience the MR magic???
1 depends on the car.
2. Sound of engine behind head really is nice exciting when you get on it.
3. Steering feel is better, but heavier effort until at speed (at least on the MR’s I’ve driven).
4. Moment of car is vastly different. Compare how a FF understeers into a turn vs FR car and the difference is about 2x that. Not saying it’s the same physics. I’m saying the difference in feel is this much. You don’t notice it until you become conscious of the car moving different in regards to power and turns.
That being said, in my limited experience, most vette people (boomers) will boulevard cruise these things, so it wouldn’t matter where they put the engine, or how much power it makes. But the looks will certainly get some boomers off the fence and put one in the garage. Of course a solid minority of enthusiast buyers will buy them for performance. That is until there is newer competition, and then they will sell.
GM will probably apply every electronic gizmo they can on these things to make it drive like a FR car, or make it completely neutral, there is no way they are setting these cars up like MR of the past. They will have lawsuits and be all over the news when people lift the gas at the wrong time or something, and spin out off the road and into the Golden Corral parking lot or something.
C8, like the C5-7 will make great 5-10 year old used cars for enthusiasts, as their boomer first owners die off and leave pristine garaged examples, and no cranky cane waving boomers to yell “I know what I gots” demanding top dollar. You’ll be finding mint boomer owned C8’s with 5000 miles on them for 25 years. Boomers who buy these will figure out that they can’t get in or out of them, and they can’t handle the ride, and they will be too proud to sell it fearing that it would be indicating a bad financial decision. They won’t be able to resist buying them though because muh patriotism and muh it’s and investment, muh America is back MAGA, etc.
If I have to stick to the spirit of this game and buy something new, I'd buy a Durango SRT. Plenty of power, but practicality for kids and home ownership needs ya know? Either that or a 4 door Jeep Wrangler with 3 pedals. Would be really difficult to make a decision between 3 pedals or a Hemi.
Last edited by oidoglr; 08-16-2019 at 10:27 AM.
Now if you're never, ever going to take the car to the track, then that really doesn't matter. You're going to jail if you exploit the limits of these cars on the street. (i.e. kill someone because you crashed into them doing 3-4x the speed limit)
For purely street use, I'd go for a turnkey Flyin Miata ND LS3 conversion. 480hp in a 2500 lb. car? Yes.
Came to post one from my own inventory. I love this car and the joy will last a lot longer than that of a Corvette.