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      08-12-2019 07:36 PM #1
      https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/39934165

      Thought this was interesting, the car's safety is it's saving grace, too bad 25.81% of the owners don't seem to want to use their own eye sight.
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      The Honda HR-V came in a close second, at 25.7%. The balance of the list includes, in descending order, the Hyundai Elantra GT, the Infiniti Q50, the Subaru WRX (which also has the dubious distinction of being the car with the highest proportion of speeding offenses), the Mazda3, the Acura ILX, the Lexus CT, the Chevrolet Trax (the sole American car on the list), and the Hyundai Santa Fe Sport.
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      08-12-2019 07:45 PM #2
      Anecdotally, I have absolutely no difficulty believing this. Non-WRX Subarus are menaces; always with the no-look moves and merging at 36 mph.
      Holy crap all those rates seem super high to me though. The Crosstreks aren't even that old!
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      08-12-2019 08:02 PM #3
      Blame the drivers, not the cars. We know what kind of people buy these things.
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      08-12-2019 08:03 PM #4
      I haven't driven one, but wondering if the blind spots are particularly bad perhaps? I mean even something like a mk7 golf has wide and heavily angled A pillars (like most modern FWD cars), but the steer the rake, and the fatter they get with airbgas, the bigger blind spots they create. It certainly dependent on your seating position, but nevertheless, I can see that being one rational cause if indeed it has poor blind spots. That list seems to be all fwd-based cars.

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      08-12-2019 08:11 PM #5
      Case closed.

      Bring back the RS trim and stuff the 2.5l in there.

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      08-12-2019 08:20 PM #6
      I see a lot of these gunning around. I know they’re slow, maybe they are trying to compensate.

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      08-12-2019 08:24 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Schrodinger's Rattle View Post
      Anecdotally, I have absolutely no difficulty believing this. Non-WRX Subarus are menaces; always with the no-look moves and merging at 36 mph.
      Holy crap all those rates seem super high to me though. The Crosstreks aren't even that old!
      Can confirm. My latest trip to L.A. had me convinced there's a special driving school for Crosstrek and Forester drivers, wherein they taught the best ways to clog the roads and drive like crap.

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      08-12-2019 08:47 PM #8
      In the Northeast they seem to be driven by older folks that appear to hate driving. I'm only surprised by this statistic given the high praise given to Subaru's eyesight system. Other than that, this doesn't surprise me at all.

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      08-12-2019 09:18 PM #9
      I'd love to know demographics, and it'd also be good to know what types of accidents, such as at-fault and what the drivers said.
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      08-12-2019 10:12 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      I'd love to know demographics, and it'd also be good to know what types of accidents, such as at-fault and what the drivers said.
      And how much pot was consumed...

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      08-12-2019 11:01 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Crispyfritter View Post
      Can confirm. My latest trip to L.A. had me convinced there's a special driving school for Crosstrek and Forester drivers, wherein they taught the best ways to clog the roads and drive like crap.

      Chris
      Can confirm. Stay out of Seattle. Crosstraffics are the new Jetta.

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      08-12-2019 11:42 PM #12
      Funny to see some data on this; my anecdote is I saw a nearly new Crosstrek in my parking garage with the front end smashed. Even had EyeSight. I almost wonder if non-techy people who buy these are being oversold on how good the AEB is and they decide to try it out.

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      08-13-2019 06:14 AM #13
      Can confirm almost every one of these I see is being driven at 11/10. Same for the base Impreza hatch.

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      08-13-2019 07:03 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by 16volt View Post
      Can confirm. Stay out of Seattle. Crosstraffics are the new Jetta.
      Hipster lifestyle has slowly bled into mainstream culture, which means every "earthy girl" and every "thoughtful guy" needs to have a Crosstrek to show their support of said lifestyle. Around Atlanta, most of them have National Park stickers, some sort of cooler advertisement and a two-rail bike rack that looks brand new.

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      08-13-2019 07:53 AM #15
      It's autopilot syndrome - people assume that because there are excellent safety systems, the car will drive for them. Then they are surprised when that does not prevent accidents.
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      08-13-2019 08:56 AM #16
      true story, during winter snowstorms up here crosstreks and impreza's are the most likely (with a high margin) to be either driving on the highway at 10 mph when traffic is moving at 40, or pulled over on the shoulder within 1 foot of the travel lane with low visibility.
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      08-13-2019 10:13 AM #17
      My guess is that this is a balance of two distinct driver types for this car:

      1. Older people who buy them for the safety systems but who are poor drivers or have very slow reaction times and bad depth perception.

      2. Young people who think 'Subaru' and 'AWD' means impervious to any weather and drive them like they stole them in rain, sleet, snow, and unmaintained roads - making them more likely to get involved in accidents.

      I also think the survey is incomplete without considering the damage level of the accidents - if most of them are low speed impacts causing minor damage, swipes and impacts with garage walls, mailboxes, etc, then that would be most likely contributed to bad or older drivers who hit things in parking lots and their own houses...not exactly deadly raging crashes.

      They are slow to get going, but move OK once you get them up to speed...I find myself standing on the gas pedal trying to get it to move, but no problem keeping up with or exceeding traffic speeds and highway speeds, and they feel pretty stable and controllable. I find visibility pretty good all around too.
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      08-13-2019 10:36 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by 16volt View Post
      Can confirm. Stay out of Seattle. Crosstraffics are the new Jetta.
      Meh, they're still better than the rideshare Prius and Corolla drivers.
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      08-13-2019 10:52 AM #19
      I was surprised how many 2018 Subaru's with rebuilt titles you can find on my local craigslist.

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      08-13-2019 11:07 AM #20
      Nothing to add other than I'm not surprised.

      But OP should feel bad for sharing an AMP link. AMP Links are bad, mmmkkaaay?

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      Because they're outdoorsy Toyota drivers?
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      08-13-2019 11:30 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by l88m22vette View Post
      I'd love to know demographics, and it'd also be good to know what types of accidents, such as at-fault and what the drivers said.
      Well, the new Crosstreks owners are edgy, outdoorsy, ex-Toyota drivers.

      Outbacks are owned by DINKs or single middle-aged women who run marathons and love their dogs

      Forresters are owned by lesbians and old ladies in cat sweaters

      WRXs are owned by sensible young male professionals who don't like the stigma of the STI or Young women professionals who also grew up with Subes and love the sportiness.

      STIs are owned by Army E-4's who's entire paycheck goes to the car loan and insurance with a bank note from a military credit union at a stupid % rate
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      08-13-2019 11:38 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by SWeetie View Post
      Well, the new Crosstreks owners are edgy, outdoorsy, ex-Toyota drivers.

      Outbacks are owned by DINKs or single middle-aged women who run marathons and love their dogs

      Forresters are owned by lesbians and old ladies in cat sweaters

      WRXs are owned by sensible young male professionals who don't like the stigma of the STI or Young women professionals who also grew up with Subes and love the sportiness.

      STIs are owned by Army E-4's who's entire paycheck goes to the car loan and insurance with a bank note from a military credit union at a stupid % rate
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      08-13-2019 11:41 AM #24
      In my experience, Subarus and Honda CR-Vs are bought buy people who couldn't be less interested in driving and it shows.

      The same goes for Nissan Rogue drivers, who I assume would otherwise buy CR-Vs if they had better credit ratings.

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      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      What about people that drive a Baja Turbo? Take your best shot, you’ve already missed twice.
      Baja owners are sons of boomers who bought Brats

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