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    1. n00b
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      08-19-2019 02:17 PM #1
      Hey, my first post after a long hiatus...seemed to have lost my old profile.

      Not had a VW since Gen IV. My first car was an 80 Rabbit, my Dad had a Gen 2 and 3 Jetta growing up...so lot of VW in my blood.

      So now I’m in the market for a car and might be working somewhat remotely soon. I’m looking for a car that makes the drive fun, but won’t make me cringe if I pile some miles on it. Which is bringing me back to check out my VW roots and the VII R.

      Should I just go for it and not worry it’s the end of the run for the current generation? Sounds like it could still be 2+ years until we get the next R.

      Thanks!

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      08-19-2019 02:40 PM #2
      Depends when you need the car for. If you aren't in a rush i'd wait and see what's actually released (and the final press photos for the GTI/R) for MK8 before deciding.

      Personally i'd rather own the last year of a generation that the first year of a new generation.

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      08-19-2019 03:05 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Ecsta View Post
      Depends when you need the car for. If you aren't in a rush i'd wait and see what's actually released (and the final press photos for the GTI/R) for MK8 before deciding.

      Personally i'd rather own the last year of a generation that the first year of a new generation.
      Precisely. I'd take the refined generation that has been in cycle for some time over the new generation where the first year or two the owners are really just beta testers.

      You can find Mk7 R's for $33k or less for a 17 nowadays. For the Mk8 you'll be waiting at least two years before potential delivery of an R and then on top of that the first few years of development and changes.

      My vote? Mk7, unless you want the 7 speed DSG in which case Mk7.5
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      08-19-2019 03:13 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Ecsta View Post
      Personally i'd rather own the last year of a generation that the first year of a new generation.


      Plus, if you're going to keep the car mostly stock, the 6 year warranty will be gone by the time MK8 comes out.

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      08-19-2019 03:23 PM #5
      Thanks!

      Some things never change, and being at the close of cycle to work out most of the bugs is one of them. Those were my thoughts as well, it’s just always a bit of the feel of missing out on something awesome with the next new thing. I’d probably get the auto since the wife has never driven a stick...I’ve been at peace with paddle shifting since 2007.

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      08-19-2019 03:23 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Ecsta View Post
      Depends when you need the car for. If you aren't in a rush i'd wait and see what's actually released (and the final press photos for the GTI/R) for MK8 before deciding.

      Personally i'd rather own the last year of a generation that the first year of a new generation.
      By the time the US will get an R, I bet it will be a couple of years in production in Europe though.

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      08-19-2019 07:36 PM #7
      I bought the first model year mk4 vr6 GTi, a ‘99.5.

      I’m never, ever buying a first model year car again.

      As much as I wanted to wait for the mythical 400hp Mk8 Golf r, if have to wait several years to avoid the first model years blues
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      08-19-2019 08:23 PM #8
      No. Final Fantasy 7>Final Fantasy 8.
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    11. 08-19-2019 10:16 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Diggs24 View Post
      No. Final Fantasy 7>Final Fantasy 8.
      This guys knows what he's talking about.

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      08-19-2019 10:53 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Quickshift_C5 View Post
      This guys knows what he's talking about.
      The mk7.5 is really good, and the mk8 will not be here in the USA until 2021. You will not want that car anyway and would have to wait until 2022. That would be a great time to trade in a 2019 Golf R. Just sayin'....
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      08-20-2019 12:04 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by reallypeacedoff View Post
      By the time the US will get an R, I bet it will be a couple of years in production in Europe though.
      Agreed. We likely won't see the MK8 R until 2022/2023 or so.

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      08-20-2019 02:33 AM #12
      Get what you want now. There will always be buyers remorse no matter what.


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    15. 08-20-2019 09:39 AM #13
      I would hold for the Mk IX. Rumored to be a 911 killer.

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      08-20-2019 10:21 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by todd92 View Post
      I would hold for the Mk IX. Rumored to be a 911 killer.

      Cool story.

    17. 08-20-2019 12:08 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Fusker911 View Post
      Cool story.
      This. Very cool. I hear it's coming with a Quad-Laser VR9 Hybrid with a Mr Fusion.

      The photos released earlier of the MK8 were ugly AF too. VW nailed the design this gen. They might be restyling it though.

      But... it’s anyone’s guess. I say go 7.


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      08-20-2019 01:36 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by todd92 View Post
      I would hold for the Mk IX. Rumored to be a 911 killer.
      I had to smile about the "911 Killer" comment. I currently have a 2019 Golf R and a 2015 Carrera 4 GTS. I've always driven VW's, Audi's, or Porsche's. Nothing I've ever had has come close to the smooth power and superb handling of a 911. An R8 may, but I've never driven one.

      The MK 8 Golf R may be one crazy-ass car, but not a 911 killer. Anyways, just my thoughts.

      Oh, and buy now.


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      08-20-2019 01:55 PM #17
      If you think you want this one here are the reasons to buy......

      Production has ended. Whatever aint on a boat headed this way is never gonna get here for the 7.5's. Dealers basically have the stock on hand plus a few more coming and they are gone.

      The 6/72 warranty is also gone after this model year.

      While there have been multiple teases about power levels for the next one, there have been a bunch of articles about how they will be similar and you can always tune it. Most of the "hype" I have been reading is about how "online" the new version will be and the fancy tech. If you don't care about the tech, the exterior and interior are refinements to what you got now. Nothing revolutionary.


      Those are the reasons I bought now. I did not to wait two more years for prettier LCD screens and tech I won't use.

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      08-20-2019 02:15 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by rimmerr View Post
      I had to smile about the "911 Killer" comment. I currently have a 2019 Golf R and a 2015 Carrera 4 GTS. I've always driven VW's, Audi's, or Porsche's. Nothing I've ever had has come close to the smooth power and superb handling of a 911. An R8 may, but I've never driven one.

      The MK 8 Golf R may be one crazy-ass car, but not a 911 killer. Anyways, just my thoughts.

      Oh, and buy now.
      Didn't get a sarcastic vibe from Todd's post?

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      08-20-2019 02:51 PM #19
      If I were you, I'd look for a lightly used MK7.5, if you like the way they look. The updates to the dash and infotainment system make it feel very new and fresh, and you could drive it for 2+ years and eventually trade in for a Golf VIII R after they've worked out the kinks, if you're so inclined. Just my opinion.

    22. 08-20-2019 03:25 PM #20
      Another consideration is that VW is cutting their small cars. We won't get any golf wagons anymore, and I'm guessing the hatchback's days are numbered. These aren't big sellers in the US, nor do they have the visibility to help market VWs other vehicles. We are lucky to get cars like this at all anymore.

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      08-20-2019 03:29 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by rimmerr View Post
      I had to smile about the "911 Killer" comment. I currently have a 2019 Golf R and a 2015 Carrera 4 GTS. I've always driven VW's, Audi's, or Porsche's. Nothing I've ever had has come close to the smooth power and superb handling of a 911. An R8 may, but I've never driven one.

      The MK 8 Golf R may be one crazy-ass car, but not a 911 killer. Anyways, just my thoughts.

      Oh, and buy now.


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      08-20-2019 04:26 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by reallypeacedoff View Post
      Didn't get a sarcastic vibe from Todd's post?
      Nope. People are passionate about cars. I love that. All those folks who believe Corvettes are better than a Porsche - I personally roll my eyes, but appreciate they have strong opinions. Always great topics of discussion - just like talking sports.


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    25. 08-20-2019 05:12 PM #23
      C7 and earlier Corvettes are grossly inferior to a concurrent 911.

      C8 Corvette? Good luck Porsche.

      I traded a 991 manual Carrera S for the Golf R. I didn't find it the most amazing and wonderful car I've ever owned. I found the Porsche Kool-Aid culture amusing.

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      08-20-2019 05:15 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by todd92 View Post
      I traded a 991 manual Carrera S for the Golf R. I didn't find it the most amazing and wonderful car I've ever owned. I found the Porsche Kool-Aid culture amusing.
      You are on the wrong forum, Porsche uber alles.
      I don't think the R is that far off from a 911 realistically, and a simple RSB on a R makes the car very interesting alone on the handling front.
      Last edited by Rudy_H; 08-20-2019 at 05:18 PM.

    27. 08-20-2019 06:15 PM #25
      I would like to make a motion we face reality.
      A 430 hp Porsche will beat a vw r.
      A c6 corvette zo6 650 hp/650 tq will beat the Porsche.
      Back to out normal programming................

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