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      08-28-2019 05:52 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      I guess that means Bentley was 8 years too late, Rolls was 10 years late, and Ferrari will be 11-14 years past due?
      Here's a post I made on the subject in another thread and looking at the numbers, I'd say anything after 2016 is late.

      I feel ZERO pity for Aston Martin's dismal sales. The entire luxury car world has moved onto SUVs and for some idiotic reason, Aston Martin has not. Here's a quick list of when modern luxury/sporty SUV's have been launched by European based manufacturers (not counting G-Wagen, LM002, Land Rover, random outliers) to put this in perspective.

      1998: Mercedes ML (ML55 in 2000)
      1999: BMW X5 (X5 4.8is in 2004)
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      2016: Maserati Levante
      2018: Lamborghini Anus

      The more I look at the list above, the more I'm disappointed in Aston Martin. Sure I wouldn't expect them to come out with an answer to the SUV craze the year after the Cayenne debuted in 2002, but we're almost 20 years into the SUV craze and they still don't have a product out?! How much proof do they need that this segment is a huge sales success?
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      08-28-2019 05:52 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      Even camouflaged, this looks better than the Lambo, Bentley, and Rolls "exotic" SUVs.
      I saw my first Bentayga on the road 2 weeks ago and it just blended in with the rest of the crowd. The interior of that truck will sell it more than anything else.

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      08-28-2019 06:09 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by ImpeccableNEW View Post
      Why do they make these luxo suvs sorta bland, most narcissts want theyre "truck" as they call them to stand out
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      Quote Originally Posted by antilock View Post
      I saw my first Bentayga on the road 2 weeks ago and it just blended in with the rest of the crowd. The interior of that truck will sell it more than anything else.
      Exactly. ^^^

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      08-28-2019 07:04 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Crispyfritter View Post
      I'm wondering if AM could introduce an entry level Sports car. A real, honest to goodness British sports car that looks good and starts at $50k and has a sweet sounding V6/hybrid setup that sounds great and has some class.

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      If AM wanted to do something like that, they should have just kept selling the old Vantage. Base price on that was below $100K by the end.

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      08-28-2019 07:15 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by driveareliablecar View Post
      This brand is shot. Sad for loyalists who kept these collections for decades.
      No way. A manual V12 Aston will be cool until the end of time. Nothing will ever change that. That's part of why the brand is struggling now.

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      08-28-2019 08:50 PM #31
      Sucks that a traditional sports car marque is pushing an SUV as their most important model. Dunno if this is condemnation of Aston or the buying public.


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      08-28-2019 10:56 PM #32
      No. Not even close.
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      08-29-2019 12:15 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      Sucks that a traditional sports car marque is pushing an SUV as their most important model. Dunno if this is condemnation of Aston or the buying public.

      A)Why is this sad when almost 100% of other car companies also have an suv? B) Car companies don't add new models that they think won't sell, so you do the math.

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      08-29-2019 12:24 AM #34
      Aston Martin has lost its way...
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      08-29-2019 10:32 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      Aston Martin has lost its way...
      Hey, its business first otherwise its no business. There are always the classics to satisfy the purist, AM does not have the option to be sentimental right now.

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      08-29-2019 10:54 AM #36
      YEa seems like a lot of folks want companies to go the way of Lotus (who is also launching a way-too-late crossover soon)

      The way I see it, if a crossover enables a company to keep selling cool cars, who cares? Better to have a crossover in the showroom than no showroom at all.

      But the market is already oversaturated. AM, Lotus and Genesis ( ) are too late. All of their crossovers are probably gonna launch right as a global recession kicks off

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      08-29-2019 02:31 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      AM, Lotus and Genesis ( ) are too late. All of their crossovers are probably gonna launch right as a global recession kicks off
      This is very well said. Ferrari is in the same boat, and from the sounds of it possibly Bugatti as well. Don't even get me started with Genesis who has seemingly been testing the GV80 for years.

      Uneducated consumers follow trends until they can't anymore. When the recession inevitably hits, I'll be much happier in my 2.0T than in some monster SUV running a V6 or V8. I remember the last one. I was driving a Range Rover and it hurt bad at the pump.

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      08-29-2019 02:44 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by ice4life View Post
      This is very well said. Ferrari is in the same boat, and from the sounds of it possibly Bugatti as well. Don't even get me started with Genesis who has seemingly been testing the GV80 for years.

      Uneducated consumers follow trends until they can't anymore. When the recession inevitably hits, I'll be much happier in my 2.0T than in some monster SUV running a V6 or V8. I remember the last one. I was driving a Range Rover and it hurt bad at the pump.
      Then again, when the recession hits, it's also possible that oil and gasoline prices go down even further so that we see sub $2/gallon prices. Just like we did in 2009. There was a lot of knee-jerk reactions between 2006-2009. In 2006, people were happily putting around in trucks, Excursions and H2's. Early 2008, people began to freak out as gas prices doubled to $4-5/gallon and started dumping their full size SUV's. In 2009, gasoline dropped back down below $2 after the stock market crashed 60%. People then upgraded their Priuses and econoboxes for CUV's in the droves as the economy started to recover.

      People will feel poorer, because jobs, but still. It'll be interesting to see consumer buying patterns this next go around.

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      08-29-2019 10:41 PM #39
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      First spy shot of the rear:

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      08-31-2019 08:30 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      A)Why is this sad when almost 100% of other car companies also have an suv? B) Car companies don't add new models that they think won't sell, so you do the math.

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      agree. AM has to build a cash cow so they can build fun stuff. Just like Lotus.

      I just hate seeing fun car engineering companies have to resort to selling mommy mobiles with lane departure warning so they can still build what matters.

      I hope Caterham is comfortable being small and niche. Watch them try to build a tube chassis SUV with no windshield.
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      09-09-2019 02:55 PM #42
      New rendering. I think this design looks great.


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      09-09-2019 03:27 PM #43
      I just hope they can do a Superleggera variant with the DBS V12. Not that I'd be able to buy one but just for fun.

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      09-09-2019 03:43 PM #44
      That is definitely a good looking SUV. Looks quite small in pictures, but I'm guessing it's larger and has more presence in person.

      Maybe AM is late in the game to this market, but I'm almost 100% sure this vehicle will only help them financially. I see it competing well against the $120k-$175k class (e.g. Cayenne Turbo, Levante GTS, GLE 63 S AMG), but they might run into problems if they price it in $200k+ territory of the Urus, Bentayga, and Cullinan.

    21. 09-09-2019 03:48 PM #45
      My mid engine Aston van would do better if they put that into production :p
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      09-09-2019 03:48 PM #46
      Looks good!

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      09-09-2019 06:15 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by VigorousZX View Post
      My mid engine Aston van would do better if they put that into production :p
      Is that a flux capacitor on top?

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      09-09-2019 06:33 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Venom21 View Post
      Well yeah, AM is almost dead as a company. Their stock has completely tanked, their profits are basically non-existent. If this fails they are completely screwed.
      They are in dire straits, but nothing when compared to Lotus.

      Lotus has me on record as having owned a Lotus in the past, and I made the mistake of clicking a "more information" link on the new Evora GT website. Now I have some guy with a thick British accent calling me weekly from Hethel asking how he can arrange to "get me into" a new Evora GT. The amazing thing is that it's the SAME GUY EACH CALL. I actually think that Lotus has a single, lone, individual in Hethel, England who makes 100% of the marketing calls for North America.

      That's how you know when it's do or die time. I really hope Lotus makes it. And I really hope AM does too.
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      Is that a flux capacitor on top?
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