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      09-04-2019 11:36 AM #26
      I'm having a hard time getting past the nomenclature. What's with Germans and their weird lack of precision with naming convention. As I seem to recall, Audi confused supercharging and turbo charging. And now Porsche is calling their all electric car by terms that are only relevant for ICE vehicles. Why not take the opportunity to come up with new naming conventions. I guess that extra time would have amounted to a more expensive car?

      I like this more than a model S, for certain.

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      09-04-2019 11:46 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      I'm having a hard time getting past the nomenclature. What's with Germans and their weird lack of precision with naming convention. As I seem to recall, Audi confused supercharging and turbo charging. And now Porsche is calling their all electric car by terms that are only relevant for ICE vehicles. Why not take the opportunity to come up with new naming conventions. I guess that extra time would have amounted to a more expensive car?

      I like this more than a model S, for certain.
      A good point made by someone I follow:

      If the harmonised nomenclature is the only thing done to reassure customers slightly afraid of change (there doesn’t seem to be any compromises with the car), it doesn’t bother me. Msg is, you can choose ICE, EV, 2 or 4 doors, they’re all great.
      https://twitter.com/stratnine/status...60904313163778

      But I do agree that I would have liked to see what kind of EV-specific nomenclature Porsche could have come up with.
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      09-04-2019 11:58 AM #28
      That price? I think Elon breathed a small sigh of relief.
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      09-04-2019 12:12 PM #29
      At $150k, Taycan Turbo is basically the same price as Panamera Turbo.

      $190k for Turbo S sets the bar higher vs. Panamera.

      If you apply the pricing logic for RS7 vs. Panamera, I would guess ETron GT RS will get the "Turbo" tune at Taycan 4S price ( and ETron GT S for Taycan base price, and base ETron GT at roughly $20k below Taycan base)

      So yes, I will wait for the Audi version

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      09-04-2019 12:13 PM #30
      Someone send the police to do a welfare check on Hawk.

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      09-04-2019 12:18 PM #31
      “Yo, what’s the boost on your Turbos?”

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      09-04-2019 12:19 PM #32
      It looks great until you compare it to the Mission-E.

      They toned down the rear flares and hood-fender cut too much IMO.


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      09-04-2019 12:33 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
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      Turbo will start at $173,900 in Canada and the Turbo S will start at $213,900


    10. 09-04-2019 12:40 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Hajduk View Post
      Turbo will start at $173,900 in Canada and the Turbo S will start at $213,900

      Holy **** that ain't cheap!!!! A McLaren 540C is $200k. I know apples to airplanes and all that but still that is a hefty price tag.

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      09-04-2019 12:41 PM #35
      There will be a whole bunch of cheaper models coming in the near future, including a rear-drive base model. I'd assume the next variant will debut at the LA show.
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      09-04-2019 12:45 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      There will be a whole bunch of cheaper models coming in the near future, including a rear-drive base model. I'd assume the next variant will debut at the LA show.
      Awesome. When will the $35k model come out?

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      09-04-2019 12:47 PM #37
      What a good looking car. I hope there is one for under $100k. Something base enough to give a wide swath of people the taste of the EV life. I predict when they go EV, they will want EV everything else. Wives will want EV Cayennes, G-Wagons, and whatever other vehicles such buyers have at home.
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      09-04-2019 12:48 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      Holy **** that ain't cheap!!!! A McLaren 540C is $200k. I know apples to airplanes and all that but still that is a hefty price tag.
      Yeah, aspirational products are aspirational. VW Group has plenty of other brands that they can race to the bottom with. Porsche will not be the one.

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      09-04-2019 01:04 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by JackStraw79 View Post
      Yeah, aspirational products are aspirational. VW Group has plenty of other brands that they can race to the bottom with. Porsche will not be the one.
      Agreed. Tesla seems to be taking the American muscle direction. Crazy power, cheap interiors, for much less than the European competition.
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    16. 09-04-2019 01:15 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      You're welcome, Hawk
      Thank you.

      I declare this the one true Taycan thread.

      (Until forum owners lock it to force us to use their fake thread.)


    17. 09-04-2019 01:16 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Tommietank View Post
      What a good looking car. I hope there is one for under $100k. Something base enough to give a wide swath of people the taste of the EV life.
      That will be the next Macan in 3 years. We won't see this under $100K even in base form I'm guessing.

    18. 09-04-2019 01:19 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Someone send the police to do a welfare check on Hawk.
      Hahaha.

      Honestly in a way I'm glad it's SO out of reach it's not even debatable for me. This is a total no-go price wise for me.

      What I was afraid was that it would come in around $110-$120K and then I'd be like, hmmmm.... do I still go for it? But at this price there's just no way.

      Now that said, there is still talk of a 'base' car right? But I'm guessing even that will be north of $100K.

      Oh well I guess I look forward to Audi E-Tron GT.


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      09-04-2019 01:30 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Now that said, there is still talk of a 'base' car right? But I'm guessing even that will be north of $100K.
      I bet it'll be just over $90,000 US, but that's just my own speculation
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      09-04-2019 01:42 PM #44
      If the mumbo jumbo is to be believed, this is actually the first electric car I'm remotely intrigued by. Of course, I'll never afford one... but still, they make a compelling case for finally advancing the technology.
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      09-04-2019 01:59 PM #45
      Beautiful. Whoever signed off on the Turbo badge should be fired.

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      09-04-2019 01:59 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
      Holy **** that ain't cheap!!!! A McLaren 540C is $200k. I know apples to airplanes and all that but still that is a hefty price tag.
      It's still $20K less than in the US

    23. 09-04-2019 02:05 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      I bet it'll be just over $90,000 US, but that's just my own speculation
      I agree, but I do wonder how de-contented it will be and how quickly little options will add up to make it more like a 100-105k vehicle. We already see the AC and 150kw DC chargers are options. Wonder how much more will be like that to make the more realistic base model that will be available.

      Overall the specs on this are as good as you'd hope except the range. Looks like the Turbo S will be more like a ~240mi EPA and the Turbo will be ~270mi. This is probably due to them being a bit less efficient and more conservative with their batteries, but still a bit disappointing.

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      09-04-2019 02:16 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by silverlegacy View Post
      I agree, but I do wonder how de-contented it will be and how quickly little options will add up to make it more like a 100-105k vehicle. We already see the AC and 150kw DC chargers are options. Wonder how much more will be like that to make the more realistic base model that will be available.
      Less power, fewer driven wheels, way less standard performance and driver-assistance stuff. Typical base Porsche fare.
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    26. 09-04-2019 02:16 PM #50
      And the Taycan "base'' wont' be AWD I'm guessing, neither will the Taycan S. Only the Taycan 4S. (If any of those even get made)

      So the chance of an AWD Taycan under $100K CDN is 0 percent.

      Time for another, what vehicle should hawc buy thread?

      (I'm leaning facelifted S4...)


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