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      09-10-2019 04:01 AM #1
      Here's the super long press release, I only included the very beginning of it below: https://media.landrover.com/en-us/ne...rover-defender










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      • The new Defender is reimagined for the 21st century
      • The world’s most iconic 4x4 and the choice of adventurers and expedition leaders for more than 70 years has been reinvented with an instantly recognizable silhouette that features signature Defender elements including short front and rear overhangs
      • Durable new D7x architecture engineered to withstand the Extreme Event Test procedure, above and beyond the normal standard for SUV testing in the industry
      • New Configurable Terrain Response, Twin-Speed Transfer Box, Locking Center Differential, Active Rear and Locking Differential allow drivers to optimize the Defender for use on various terrains (7)
      • The new Defender debuts the new ‘PIVI Pro’ (12) infotainment system featuring an intuitive interface, while Software-Over-The-Air updates allows customers to access to the latest software updates remotely
      • Intuitive 10-inch touchscreen with standard Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™ compatibility delivers enhanced user experience and broader range of functions (1)
      • At launch, the Defender 110 will be available with optional 5+2 seating and four distinct Accessory Packs (Explorer, Adventure, Country and Urban), as well as 170 individual accessories; A shorter wheelbase Defender 90 derivate will join the line-up soon after
      • Four distinct Accessory Packs are available
      • Explorer Pack: The Explorer Pack is ideal for off-road adventures, equipped with a lightweight 57-lbs Expedition Roof Rack(3) , Exterior Side-mounted Gear Carrier, Wheel Arch Protection and a Spare Wheel Cover. A Matte Black hood decal, featuring ‘90’ or ‘110’ cut-out detailing, completes the Explorer Pack’s head-turning appearance
      • Adventure Pack: Ideal for time spent outdoors, the Adventure Pack features a Portable Rinse System with a 1.7 gallon (6.5-liter) pressurized water reservoir, trunk-mounted Integrated Air Compressor and Exterior Side-mounted Gear Carrier. A practical 6.3 gallon Seat Backpack, which you can take with you when you leave the vehicle, completes the interior
      • Country Pack: Designed for time spent off the beaten track, the Country Pack features rugged Wheel Arch Protection, Bright Rear Scuff Plate, Portable Rinse System and FullHeight Loadspace Partition
      • Urban Pack: To stand out in the concrete jungle, the Urban Pack adds a Bright Rear Scuff Plate, Spare W
      • The functional, durable and flexible interior is unique with exposed structural elements and available 5+2 seating and a central front jump seat
      • The Land Rover brand’s pioneering Terrain Response® 2 technology is enhanced with standard Wade Sensing (13) feature, while world-first off-road Configurable Terrain Response allows the driver to tailor off-road character more precisely (7)
      • New Advanced Electrical Vehicle Architecture (EVA 2.0) underpins connected tech
      • A maximum payload of up to 1,984-lbs (900kg), static roof load of up to 661-lbs (300kg), dynamic roof load of 370-lbs (168kg), towing capacity of 8,201-lbs and wading depth of up to 35.4-in (900mm) combine to make the new Defender the ultimate 4x4 for overland adventures
      • Land Rover brand to continue long-term humanitarian partnership with the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) with Defender at the heart of it
      • Above and Beyond Collection: A capsule of technical apparel developed in partnership with Musto® is available in Land Rover showrooms and online, reflecting core Defender qualities of capability and toughness. For more information, visit your local Land Rover retailer.
      • The Defender 110 will be priced from $49,900 (11) in the U.S. and will go on sale in Spring 2020; the Defender 90 body style will be available later in the year 2020. Configure your new Defender at www.landroverusa.com/Defender
      • To view a live stream of the New Defender reveal at the Frankfurt Motor Show, visit the Land Rover brand’s YouTube channel on September 10, 2019 at 4:00AM EDT

      (MAHWAH, NJ) – September 10, 2019 – The Land Rover Defender has always been a symbol of strength and the new model is the toughest and most capable Land Rover vehicle yet, combining a new body structure with all-new technologies and proven hardware to create a Defender that is fit for the 21st century.The new Defender is built for adventurous hearts and curious minds, for those who know the value of community and strive to make a difference.

      The unmistakable silhouette is familiar yet new. It looks tough and is tough but designed with purpose and engineered to excite. Iconic in name, shape and capability, the Defender can be personalized to allow owners to make the most of their world.

      Across seven decades of pioneering innovation, Land Rover vehicles have earned a unique place in the hearts of explorers, humanitarian agencies and adventurous families across the world. Proven in the harshest environments on earth, the new Defender maintains this bloodline.

      Alongside the peerless luxury and refinement of the Range Rover family and the highly capable and versatile Discovery SUVs, the new Defender completes the Land Rover dynasty. The Defender 110 is just the start for this family of the most capable and durable 4x4s in the world. It will be swiftly followed by a short wheelbase Defender 90 later in 2020.

      Driven by a passion and respect for the original, the new Defender delivers transformational breadth of capability and advanced all-terrain technologies to redefine adventure for the 21st century, while remaining true to the pioneering spirit that has been a Land Rover brand hallmark for 71 years.
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      09-10-2019 04:06 AM #2
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      09-10-2019 04:17 AM #3
      In before all the people mad it’s not exactly like the old Defender from the 1970’s.
      Hell, in before all the people who are mad we don’t LIVE in the 1970’s.

      It looks the business to me.
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      09-10-2019 04:44 AM #4
      Looks nice. Wish it could be had in manual.

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      09-10-2019 05:28 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0_Mazda View Post
      Looks nice. Wish it could be had in diesel.
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      09-10-2019 06:36 AM #6
      I'm surprised it has a dedicated platform. I know some purists will think it's dumbed down, but I think it's as good as realistically possible and definitely less compromised than I expected. I'm impressed.

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      09-10-2019 06:41 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
      In before all the people mad it’s not exactly like the old Defender from the 1970’s.
      Hell, in before all the people who are mad we don’t LIVE in the 1970’s.

      It looks the business to me.
      That's not a Defender!

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      09-10-2019 07:05 AM #8
      Real cool. Too many different plastic pattern pieces though.

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      09-10-2019 07:12 AM #9
      The pricing though, $100k for a Defender?

      https://build.landrover/C373E984

      Try to do a 4 cylinder offroad bits only build and it's still $70k.

      https://build.landrover/33B1026E
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      09-10-2019 07:13 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Gitcha Sum View Post
      Real cool. Too many different plastic pattern pieces though.
      Agreeed. Think the front bit would've been better if it was metal.

      Not a bad choice to have the bottom panels in a simple black plastic type, though probably could also do with being metallic (mass prohibitive probably though).

      Don't like the paintjobs, the matte paint just makes it look more sophisticated than it needs to be.

      Rest of it seems nice, especially on the five door version.
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      09-10-2019 07:33 AM #11
      I like it!
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      09-10-2019 07:34 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by ND40oz View Post
      The pricing though, $100k for a Defender?

      https://build.landrover/C373E984

      Try to do a 4 cylinder offroad bits only build and it's still $70k.

      https://build.landrover/33B1026E
      It starts at $49K. Go easy on the option boxes?

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      No 2 door configurator no care
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      Whoa, you can spec a factory flat clear wrap (for $3800, but still).
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      09-10-2019 07:53 AM #15
      What's with the C-Pillar?
      Otherwise, nice design!

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      09-10-2019 08:10 AM #16
      I got one to mall parking lot adventurer spec for under $58k.

      https://build.landrover/008B623D

      - 4 cyl.
      - country pack
      - cheapest non steel wheels
      - off road tires
      - panoramic roof
      - black exterior pack
      - cold weather pack

      add in some actual off road tech and it squeezes just north of $60k.

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      09-10-2019 08:20 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      It starts at $49K. Go easy on the option boxes?
      I tried, the 4 cylinder just normal mechanical and other off-road options. Still running the base cloth seats with a solid roof. You won’t get one a 4 cylinder under 60k and it’s going to be sparse at that price. Maybe the 90 will have more farm truck type pricing.
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      09-10-2019 08:24 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by ND40oz View Post
      I tried, the 4 cylinder just normal mechanical and other off-road options. Still running the base cloth seats with a solid roof. You won’t get one a 4 cylinder under 60k and it’s going to be sparse at that price. Maybe the 90 will have more farm truck type pricing.
      I'm not sure I understand, you were expecting a Rover product to come loaded with off-road chops and luxury features for a below average Rover price point... because Defender?

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      09-10-2019 08:27 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      I'm not sure I understand, you were expecting a Rover product to come loaded with off-road chops and luxury features for a below average Rover price point... because Defender?
      I think the hope was a spartan truck with offroad chops- I.e. the original Defender. But I suppose that isn't what Land Rover is today.

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      09-10-2019 08:28 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      I'm not sure I understand, you were expecting a Rover product to come loaded with off-road chops and luxury features for a below average Rover price point... because Defender?
      No, I don’t want the luxury features. I’m fine with them being an option if that’s the direction they want to go, I just wish you could get it without them.
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      09-10-2019 08:30 AM #21
      There will not be a farm spec pricing version, Land Rover hasn’t been focused on that end of vehicles for decades.

      I think it looks great and everything we expected from modern Land Rover. Less compromised then it could have been.

      People spend over $50k for Wrangler’s every day. I don’t see why Land Rover won’t sell every one of these they can at $60k plus.

      I expect to see these everywhere in our expensive Vermont resort towns.

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      09-10-2019 08:38 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      There will not be a farm spec pricing version, Land Rover hasn’t been focused on that end of vehicles for decades.

      I think it looks great and everything we expected from modern Land Rover. Less compromised then it could have been.

      People spend over $50k for Wrangler’s every day. I don’t see why Land Rover won’t sell every one of these they can at $60k plus.

      I expect to see these everywhere in our expensive Vermont resort towns.
      ^^^ This.

      Sporin's point about Wranglers is very well taken. I predict they have a huge hit on their hands.
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      09-10-2019 08:39 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      I think the hope was a spartan truck with offroad chops- I.e. the original Defender. But I suppose that isn't what Land Rover is today.
      Quote Originally Posted by ND40oz View Post
      No, I don’t want the luxury features. I’m fine with them being an option if that’s the direction they want to go, I just wish you could get it without them.
      Isn't that the $49K version?

      I'm not familiar with original Defender pricing but Google says the Defender 90 cost $32,000 back in 1997 for soft top and $34,000 for hardtop. Sounds like the 2020 Defender is pretty much priced at exactly what it originally was, inflation adjusted.

      Also to compare: 1997 Wrangler SE for $13,000 or Wrangler Sahara for $19,000.

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      09-10-2019 08:44 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Isn't that the $49K version?

      I'm not familiar with original Defender pricing but Google says the Defender 90 cost $32,000 back in 1997 for soft top and $34,000 for hardtop. Sounds like the 2020 Defender is pretty much priced at exactly what it originally was, inflation adjusted.

      Also to compare: 1997 Wrangler SE for $13,000 or Wrangler Sahara for $19,000.
      They’re restructuring the hierarchy of the lineup when the 6 cylinder Defender starts at $10k more then the the 6 cylinder Discovery and the 4 cylinder S is at price parity with the V6 SE. The Disco always sat above it in the lineup, but they’ve gone a different direction with this new Defender.
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      09-10-2019 08:55 AM #25
      Go buy a Wrangler S if you want a more spartan off-roader I guess. Or import an old Defender. Either way, nothing is really cheap in this space anymore.

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