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    1. Junior Member victorusmc's Avatar
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      09-14-2019 12:34 AM #1
      Hey guys first time writing here, I have searched for many things in the forums and I have found a lot
      of good information my car is a 2001 new beetle with 2.0L and 4 speed transmission. I cant find an answer to
      my problem, I recently got my beetle and I did some tune up on it, I changed:
      -Spark Plugs
      -Wires
      -Oil and Filter
      -Upstream oxygen sensor
      -Crankshaft position sensor
      now I never disconnected the battery....my mistake...I think...
      Now my cluster is going mad, all the lights are on, but when I
      connect the OBDELEVEN there are no faults...so what can I do?

      Please help! I am asking for help before I go to the dealer cause I dont
      know what to do...

      Thank you!

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      09-14-2019 12:37 AM #2
      BTW the car starts and runs perfect!

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      09-14-2019 12:49 AM #3
      Get an email out to OBD eleven ASAP. There may be a known fix for what’s going on. Whatever move you make next you’ll have to carefully document just in case you need to take the car to a tech for undoing what’s occurred.




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      09-14-2019 05:14 AM #4
      Maybe, post a video; of the problem, so we can see what you are referring to. When tons of lights came up on my speedo cluster; i was having a charging problem (bad battery and alternator).

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      09-18-2019 10:28 PM #5
      I believe its a grounding problem, I just don't know where are the grounds in the engine, maybe I disconnected one without noticing.
      I dont believe the problem was caused by the OBDeleven because the problem started after I changed the parts.
      I took off the air intake manifold to change the spark plugs, is there a ground there I should be looking for? any insight on those engine grounds would be helpful, I saw a diagram that said that the ECM ground is ground 32, in center plenum below ecm, is that ground in the intake manifold?

      Thank you all! Ill try to take a video tomorrow and post it

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      09-18-2019 10:29 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by billymade View Post
      Maybe, post a video; of the problem, so we can see what you are referring to. When tons of lights came up on my speedo cluster; i was having a charging problem (bad battery and alternator).
      I checked the battery and alternator they are both at 13.8 and 14.1 respectively

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      09-18-2019 10:41 PM #7
      Ok, well a video would be helpful; otherwise, everything was fine, before your tune up parts replacement? This maybe related or a coincidence? You might pull the speedo cluster and examine the plug and male connection for green corrosion; indicating water ingress or just corrosion over time. Some, have also, checked the solder joints; finding cracks at these points and reflowing the solder, tweaking the pins or cleaning the connections with contact cleaner or something like deoxit.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=deox...&client=safari

      https://www.google.com/search?client...67.PLT2WR25Gxw

      As for grounds; some have mentioned locations, under the battery tray, on the firewall and at the transmission bell housing bolts. Maybe others can chime in on other locations; possibly another reason to pull the speedo cluster/plug, dash cover, possibly the ecu and check for corrosion, grounds, damaged pins, solder joints.
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      09-19-2019 06:30 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by billymade View Post
      Ok, well a video would be helpful; otherwise, everything was fine, before your tune up parts replacement? This maybe related or a coincidence? You might pull the speedo cluster and examine the plug and male connection for green corrosion; indicating water ingress or just corrosion over time. Some, have also, checked the solder joints; finding cracks at these points and reflowing the solder, tweaking the pins or cleaning the connections with contact cleaner or something like deoxit.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=deox...&client=safari

      https://www.google.com/search?client...67.PLT2WR25Gxw

      As for grounds; some have mentioned locations, under the battery tray, on the firewall and at the transmission bell housing bolts. Maybe others can chime in on other locations; possibly another reason to pull the speedo cluster/plug, dash cover, possibly the ecu and check for corrosion, grounds, damaged pins, solder joints.
      Thank you, I am going to pull apart the cluster and see what I find, I found the ground cable underneath the battery and cleaned it but nothing changed. Ill post my results in a couple of hours

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      09-19-2019 07:18 PM #9
      How to upload a video?

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      09-21-2019 05:48 AM #10
      Maybe upload to youtube and then post the link?

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      09-25-2019 02:59 AM #12
      Ok, that looks really bizarre; if there is something legitimately wrong with things, I would assume you should be getting some trouble codes. If you are NOT getting any; then, you might pull the speedo cluster, check the pins/plug for damage, corrosion and then, you might do the "sniff test", to smell for any of the typical electrical/ozone burning smell, indicating damage to the internal circuit board.

      The speedo clusters on these cars; are known, to get damage, fry the circuit board and act goofy. It maybe time, to have the cluster repaired or replaced; repair is easier, as no immo, odometer reading or key matching, would need to be done. There are many cluster repair services online; BBAREMAN, is one and lately, I have heard about another shop with a good reputation, called National Radio.

      So, let us know, what pulling the cluster; reveals and we can go from there. Thanks.

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      09-26-2019 10:45 PM #13
      Cluster is getting replaced and reprogrammed at the dealer, will post once I get the car back, thank you for the reply

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