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      09-17-2019 07:51 PM #101
      In the Mustang, there is a noticeable performance difference when I fill with 91+ over 87, not necessarily in HP or MPG (I've noted maybe a 1 MPG gain), but more in throttle response and such. That alone is worth it to me. The car is much easier to drive around town as well.

      I also don't drive 31k miles a year, so I can't really talk in terms of whether I'm burning money in that regard.

      The other aspect I think has been overlooked here are the cleaning agents some companies add to premium. I am no liquid engineer, but if I am keeping a car for a long long time, I want the engine to run as efficiently for as long as possible.
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      09-17-2019 08:28 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      It even says right in the manual that the octane on the fuel filler flap is the recommended, *not required*, grade - yet you’re still going on with this.
      Just to be clear, you stopped?

      And you quoted apart referencing the Audi dealer tech training manuals stating 91 is required.. again Audi can't seem to say the same thing every where but you.. you've got the answers Audi doesn't.



      And again, just to stress this - I said I’m using 93 and you stated you’re using 87. Amazing.
      What's amazing is the part about the tuning you ignored. I would not do it if my car was stock with all the dumb stuff Audi shut off in US cars that Bosch built in for safety.

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      09-17-2019 08:52 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Furthermore, we now know you're safe to run 87 in your car!
      So long as the knock sensor works..... not like VAG has any issues with electronics
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      09-17-2019 08:56 PM #104
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      So long as the knock sensor works..... not like VAG has any issues with electronics
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      09-17-2019 08:56 PM #105
      I do because it's like $8-$12/mo extra which is basically nothing
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      09-17-2019 08:56 PM #106
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      09-17-2019 08:59 PM #107
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      09-17-2019 09:00 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      Toyota recommends it because your engine was designed for it. An 06 has the dual VVTi 2uzfe with higher compression which is mechanically different from earlier engines. It's been optimized to run on premium, so 87 octane will result in the computer pulling significant timing to protect the engine.
      The old girl pulls timing like a champ.

      It's actually a little more confusing than just vvti vs non-vvti, the same unpaid intern may've spent a summer with Toyota. Thankfully, someone on Mud took the time to put this together.


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      09-17-2019 09:01 PM #109
      My old M3 always gets Shell V-Power 93. The highest ethanol-free I can find is 90 (which I run in my air-cooled motorcycle), but I don't think that my old BMW would like it. I really have no idea, though.

      My wife's highlander gets whatever swill I can find. It doesn't matter, nor does it ask for better than 87.

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      09-17-2019 09:39 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      When this happened, we had many drinks and it was about triple the estimate (granted there were 5 of us) but nonetheless.
      Some of us didn’t contribute enough to the bar tab, it was much more reasonable than I expected.

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      This looks like the face of an 85 octane dood.
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      I do because it's like $8-$12/mo extra which is basically nothing
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      09-17-2019 09:45 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Some of us didn’t contribute enough to the bar tab, it was much more reasonable than I expected.
      I don't have a firm memory of what I added to the bar tab.
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      09-17-2019 09:45 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Some of us didn’t contribute enough to the bar tab, it was much more reasonable than I expected.
      Different dinner.

      This one was only a 4 minute walk to the next location, rather than 8
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      09-17-2019 09:46 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      That’s one less cocktail you could be having.
      If that is what causes you to not be able to buy a cocktail then you are doing it wrong.
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      09-17-2019 09:52 PM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post


      That’s one less cocktail you could be having.
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      09-17-2019 09:59 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      I don't have a firm memory of what I added to the bar tab.
      I was a cheap date that night, I mostly just had beer.

      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Different dinner.

      This one was only a 4 minute walk to the next location, rather than 8
      You didn’t use GPS?

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      If that is what causes you to not be able to buy a cocktail then you are doing it wrong.
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      09-17-2019 10:00 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Your imagination is useless.
      He must use Nugenix
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      09-17-2019 10:02 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      He must use Nugenix
      This guy sure as **** don’t believe no ‘Audi tech training manual’

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    19. 09-17-2019 10:05 PM #118
      Never.

      I put minimum allowable grade.

      In BMW it's 89.

      It MB it's 91.

      Other cars, if they allow 87, then it's always 87. I don't give a flying f.. about hypothetical 3hp difference, economy or whatever else dumb BS people use for arguments for higher octane gas.

      I also buy the cheapest gas I can find. I don't even look at the brand.

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      09-17-2019 10:10 PM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by aging_fleet View Post
      The old girl pulls timing like a champ.

      It's actually a little more confusing than just vvti vs non-vvti, the same unpaid intern may've spent a summer with Toyota. Thankfully, someone on Mud took the time to put this together.

      *Trusting that at face value because Mud is the land of Toyota nerds*

      Interesting, I also just read from semi-official sources that Lexus ECU maps can be more aggressive for the same engine engine that comes in a Toyota model. That would account for some of the confusion on my part and all around.

      The dual VVTi 2uz-fe in a 2006+ GX470 requires 91+ and definitely benefits from it by the ol' butt dyno test procedure.

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      09-17-2019 10:16 PM #120
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      09-17-2019 10:17 PM #121
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      How dare you imply that my son is a Cubs fan?
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      09-17-2019 10:42 PM #122
      The BMW always gets premium, 92 around these parts, as per BMW recommendations (89 minimum per owner's manual). The Jeep always gets regular, no sense wasting my money on something Jeep doesn't recommend/require in the Jeep. I normally fill up at Costco, and premium is only $0.27 more per gallon.


      My dad has had a few Mercedes and BMWs that recommended premium, so he put premium in. Oh my God did he bitch about the "premium" for premium. Granted, he lives in Chicago, and it was $0.60-$1 more per gallon for premium for some reason.

      My dad really likes wagons, and when his E46 was finally dying at 280K miles, he went shopping for a new wagon.

      BMW and Mercedes were immediately eliminated from consideration because they take premium.

      He looked at the Buick Regal TourX, VW Alltrack, and Cadillac CTS wagon. Ended up with the Cadillac.

      He's averaging 21mpg in the Cadillac running regular.

      My brother has an E-Class wagon, and averages 25mpg running premium.

      Good thing you don't have to pay for premium anymore dad

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      09-18-2019 12:12 AM #123
      in the s2000 and GS, yes. in the GX no...there is no data suggesting that GX's get better mileage or noticeably better performance on premium.
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      09-18-2019 12:21 AM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Curious how you guys feel on this. Any of the newer cars (2000+ ?) that "recommend" premium will usually run fine on regular, they just pull timing back a bit and you lose a little bit of power at the top end.
      That's heresy...

      I run 93 on my stage 1+ 2012 A4. I also run 93 on my Scirocco (11:1 CR).

      I run the cheap stuff on my C30 and my lawnmower.
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      09-18-2019 12:34 AM #125
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