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      09-17-2019 03:17 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      Well, an intern goofed and deleted some text from the 2004 document, so that means he can't run 87 anymore.
      The fuel flaps on my 00 TT, 03 A6, 03 allroad, and 06 A3 all state 91 octane/premium fuel ((ron+mon)/2)) minimum.

      So those 4 interns f'd up too...

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      09-17-2019 03:18 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      I had no idea you were an engineer for Audi.

      Carry on.
      I'm sorry but I was unaware the marketing documents from Audi of America were the only ones written by an engineer.

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      09-17-2019 03:22 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by aging_fleet View Post
      Toyota actually recommends premium for the Land Cruiser which I find funny. No ill effects or performance issues during my 5+ years of pouring 87 octane in the tank. Previous cars that I felt were more fragile always got premium if the manufacturer recommended/required it.
      Toyota recommends it because your engine was designed for it. An 06 has the dual VVTi 2uzfe with higher compression which is mechanically different from earlier engines. It's been optimized to run on premium, so 87 octane will result in the computer pulling significant timing to protect the engine.

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      09-17-2019 03:25 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      I'm sorry but I was unaware the marketing documents from Audi of America were the only ones written by an engineer.
      We established those particular documents were written by unpaid interns, specifically for MY 2004.
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      09-17-2019 03:31 PM #55
      It was nice for a while, we went a couple whole weeks without a chris86 argument thread. Oh well.

      Most German cars spec 91 and have very few low-speed pre-ignition (LSPI) issues, especially compared to the domestics or Koreans. Tuning probably has something to do with it but also fuel octane requirement likely does as well.

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      09-17-2019 03:38 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      We established those particular documents were written by unpaid interns, specifically for MY 2004.
      Just pointing out that if actual information from engineers is required then we seem to have absolutely no information on the fuel requirements for these vehicles...

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      09-17-2019 03:44 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      Just pointing out that if actual information from engineers is required then we seem to have absolutely no information on the fuel requirements for these vehicles...
      In that case, 87 for everyone. I like the way you think.
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      09-17-2019 03:48 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      In that case, 87 for everyone. I like the way you think.
      Man, the cost savings will really add up quickly on the no-road!
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      09-17-2019 03:55 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      Man, the cost savings will really add up quickly on the no-road!
      I just did some simple arithmetic with the 325i...

      If I drive 31,200 miles per year here are my costs:

      $2,786 per year @ 28MPG w/93 octane

      $2,460 per year @ 26MPG w/87 octane

      Now for the savings, and this is huge -

      I'd save $326 per year if I used 87 octane instead of 93.

      Gotta pinch those pennies where you can!
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      09-17-2019 04:08 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      I just did some simple arithmetic with the 325i...

      If I drive 31,200 miles per year here are my costs:

      $2,786 per year @ 28MPG w/93 octane

      $2,460 per year @ 26MPG w/87 octane

      Now for the savings, and this is huge -

      I'd save $326 per year if I used 87 octane instead of 93.

      Gotta pinch those pennies where you can!
      That would cover drinks and steaks for us next month...
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      09-17-2019 04:09 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      That might cover drinks and steaks for us next month...
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      09-17-2019 04:11 PM #63
      Do you really drive 31k miles per year?

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      09-17-2019 04:13 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      Do you really drive 31k miles per year?
      Just about, give or take a couple thousand miles.

      My commute is 100 miles per day, five days a week.

      If I go for a drive on the weekends that's usually at minimum another 100 miles.

      Also, the commute every day does not include driving around town running errands, etc. I'd say it's probably closer to 115-120 miles a day from M-F.
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      09-17-2019 04:14 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Just about, give or take a couple thousand miles.

      My commute is 100 miles per day, five days a week.

      If I go for a drive on the weekends that's usually at minimum another 100 miles.

      Also, the commute every day does not include driving around town running errands, etc. I'd say it's probably closer to 115-120 miles a day from M-F.

      Damn

      I do like 8k per year. But my commute is five miles.

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      09-17-2019 04:15 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      Damn

      I do like 8k per year. But my commute is five miles.
      I put a lot of miles on my car, the upside to that is knowing it gets up to temperature every day.
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      09-17-2019 04:16 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      Do you really drive 31k miles per year?
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Just about, give or take a couple thousand miles.

      My commute is 100 miles per day, five days a week.

      If I go for a drive on the weekends that's usually at minimum another 100 miles.

      Also, the commute every day does not include driving around town running errands, etc. I'd say it's probably closer to 115-120 miles a day from M-F.

      Yikes I drive about 1/10th of that per year.

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      09-17-2019 04:19 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      In that case, 87 for everyone. I like the way you think.
      87!!!

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      09-17-2019 04:32 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      Damn

      I do like 8k per year. But my commute is five miles.
      my commute is about .8 miles round trip assuming I drive to work 300 days a year, I do 240 miles a year.

      Thank god I ahve 4 cars.
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    21. 09-17-2019 04:41 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Just about, give or take a couple thousand miles.

      My commute is 100 miles per day, five days a week.

      If I go for a drive on the weekends that's usually at minimum another 100 miles.

      Also, the commute every day does not include driving around town running errands, etc. I'd say it's probably closer to 115-120 miles a day from M-F.
      Anytime this topic comes up, I am reminded what my Volvo indie mechanic told me years ago. He said there are 3 things I will tell you to pay for and do them when I tell you. Put premium fuel, change fluids(oil and trans fluid), and change the timing belt when I tell you. If you dont, you will pay me much more in the end. For me especially in hot months, the 300 bucks you save a year sometimes cost you much. Especially driving at 100 miles per day, personally the risk of detonation and long term engine issues are not worth the saving on fuel.

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      09-17-2019 04:48 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Just about, give or take a couple thousand miles.

      My commute is 100 miles per day, five days a week.

      If I go for a drive on the weekends that's usually at minimum another 100 miles.

      Also, the commute every day does not include driving around town running errands, etc. I'd say it's probably closer to 115-120 miles a day from M-F.
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      09-17-2019 05:02 PM #72
      No, but it depends on the weather, the car and the decade. When premium was $0.05-.20 more per gallon, I always ran it (69 Chevelle, 91 SHO). Next was my 00 1.8T Passat. I tried 87, but got nearly 10% less mpg. Once chipped, only 91 or 93.

      With my 01 Passat V6, it ran fine on 87 until it was hot out and it cut power slightly. It was fine on long distance highway drives, but with temps 100+, it was slower off the line. So locally in the summer (8months), it got premium and on a 4-5K trip, it got regular. Since the 1.8T swap (not chipped), I did the same as the $.50 price difference was more than the mpg gain. Apart from the trips, I usually drove 5K and year. Trips added 3-5K/yr when we took them. Now I rarely drive my wagon, maybe 10 miles a week, so it does not matter. The Tiguan takes 87 without issue.
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      09-17-2019 05:02 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      That would cover drinks and steaks for one of us next month...
      Fixed for Chicago prices

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      09-17-2019 05:08 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      Fixed for Chicago prices
      Its all dependent on drinking.

      I went out with a Global Moderator () the other day for a steak lunch and it was half of that estimate. He had a beer, I had a single cocktail.



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      When this happened, we had many drinks and it was about triple the estimate (granted there were 5 of us) but nonetheless.
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    26. 09-17-2019 05:09 PM #75
      I do the opposite put premium in a car that doesnt require it, accelerates much better on hills idles smoother

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