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    • Ja, WANT! Hybrid power, big fat grille up front, what's not to like?

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    Thread: Rumormill: BMW M750Le could become the first PHEV to wear M-Performance badge!

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      09-17-2019 04:15 PM #1
      Bad news is that V8 and V12 'might' go away on 7er.



      BMW has big plans for the upcoming 7 Series range, codename G70. This new generation will move into the hybrid and electrified field with a wide range of products. We’ve already heard rumors on the V8 and V12 engines being dropped in the future and replaced with hybrid alternatives. Including a BMW M750Le model.

      Today, we got a bit more info on the subject matter. The rumormill churns out that BMW is preparing its first M Performance model with a plug-in hybrid powertrain. The so-called BMW M750Le will be one of the most powerful choices in the future range, combining a B58 3-liter straight six engine with an electric motor. The internal combustion engine will have more than 382 HP, the output of the current M40i models in the US. If the full codename is anything to go by (B58B30O2), chances are we’ll see 400 HP squeezed out of it.

      Alongside it we’ll also get an electric motor which should take the combined power output up to over 550 HP in total and some 800 Nm (590 lb-ft) of torque. The car will also have fifth-gen batteries installed, for longer electric range as well as a more efficient electric motor than what’s on the market today. According to our sources, BMW plans to offer this powertrain on both long wheelbase and short wheelbase models.

      For those thinking 550 HP is out of their comfort zone, there could be also a BMW 745Le PHEV on sale. It will use the same electric motor and batteries but a less powerful version of the B58 engine, codenamed B58B30U2. This way, the BMW 745Le will have between 450 and 470 HP, plenty for any hybrid enthusiast out there.

      As for ‘conventional’ models, the 740i and 730i models will live on, as well as a 735d version for diesel lovers. There three models will be mild-hybrids though, with small electric motors on-board to help out.

      We’ll have more soon on the fully-electric 7 Series!
      https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/09/16/r...formance-phev/
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    3. 09-17-2019 05:25 PM #2
      "M" name is diluted already so pop it on anything

      7 will always play second fiddle to the S-class except for the E65

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      09-17-2019 05:32 PM #3
      Honestly, who still cares about the 7 series? Here in the US, the car has been on a sales decline since 2002 (source) and the car they sell today is a bloated, generic looking blob with an embarrassingly large grille.
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      09-17-2019 05:56 PM #4
      I mean, it's definitely performing something.

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      09-17-2019 06:10 PM #5
      I'm not sure I entirely care. I'd rather have the least sporty 7 series there is. What's the point of a sporty full size luxury car? I'd much rather something cushy, with tons of features, and adequate thrust. And no, I also wouldn't touch a s63 either.

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      09-17-2019 07:48 PM #6
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      09-17-2019 08:08 PM #7
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      09-17-2019 08:14 PM #8
      I will call it "Emily".
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      09-17-2019 09:03 PM #9
      7 has been steadily declining and losing its reason to exist since the E38. The X8 will be the final nail in its coffin.

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      09-17-2019 10:00 PM #10
      Doesn't matter what sort of badge they slap on it, unless it's big enough to hide that hideous grille.
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      09-18-2019 12:08 AM #11
      Meh.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

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      09-18-2019 06:21 AM #12
      M-badge on a hybrid limo. and Ferrari now builds SUVs.

      safe to say my kid won't be growing up dreaming about cool cars since there won't be any left.
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      09-18-2019 10:15 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post
      M-badge on a hybrid limo. and Ferrari now builds SUVs.

      safe to say my kid won't be growing up dreaming about cool cars since there won't be any left.
      I should've titled the thread "M everything?".
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      09-18-2019 10:18 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post
      M-badge on a hybrid limo. and Ferrari now builds SUVs.

      safe to say my kid won't be growing up dreaming about cool cars since there won't be any left.
      BMW and Ferrari still make cool cars though

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      09-18-2019 11:15 AM #15
      They should just start remaking the E38.

      What a damn perfectly proportioned car.

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      09-18-2019 12:38 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      BMW and Ferrari still make cool cars though
      ahhh you wait and see. when 95% of sales are M-badged X6s and Uruseses, no one will want to keep building interesting cars.
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      09-18-2019 04:56 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post
      M-badge on a hybrid limo. and Ferrari now builds SUVs.

      safe to say my kid won't be growing up dreaming about cool cars since there won't be any left.
      There are still cool cars. It is just a whole different landscape than what we grew up with. Not worse, necessarily, just different. (But worse, let's be real)
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      09-18-2019 05:26 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by worth_fixing View Post
      ahhh you wait and see. when 95% of sales are M-badged X6s and Uruseses, no one will want to keep building interesting cars.
      While I agree that performance SUVs have really made no sense just a decade ago, the new lineup of performance SUVs from BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes have really pushed envelop in terms of what a bulky and heavy SUVs can do in terms of handling and roadholding.

      There are still interesting cars being built though. It's just sad what I used to enjoy as a young man in 90's has changed completely. But even then there were some trailblazers (literally), like the GMC Typhoon. And believe it or not, I did enjoy driving the Typhoon, but in a rambunctious and insanely fast way.

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