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      09-25-2019 01:09 PM #101
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      Why don't you hire a driver? I'm sure you could get someone from OT to drive one of the vehicles.
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      09-25-2019 01:22 PM #102
      Quote Originally Posted by GreenandChrome View Post
      Why don't you hire a driver? I'm sure you could get someone for about $15/hr at HD or Lowe's or Menards to drive one of the vehicles.
      Because A) I don't trust anyone and B) then they are in the middle of nowhere Northern WI and I'm not putting them up or having them stay with me or otherwise dealing with them. It's not like they can Uber home.
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      09-25-2019 01:23 PM #103
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      09-25-2019 05:49 PM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnoughCars View Post
      You are thinking about this backwards.


      Yes, just tow the Jeep with the S2000.
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      09-25-2019 06:50 PM #105
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      Because A) I don't trust anyone and B) then they are in the middle of nowhere Northern WI and I'm not putting them up or having them stay with me or otherwise dealing with them. It's not like they can Uber home.
      If they found their way from Guadalajara to Chicago, I think they can manage Wisconsin.
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      11-01-2019 11:22 AM #106
      So here's the latest dilemma. I remembered why I usually don't wait until November to store this car. I'm headed up next weekend to store it, and I'll be driving it there.

      We got a fair amount of snow and ice yesterday, and while it will all melt before I drive up, it does open up the possibility for more snow/precipitation and cold temps.

      So, tires.

      I currently have a set of balding rear Direzza ZIIs on it (fronts are good), they need to be replaced in the spring, but I'd rather not store it in the cold on brand new tires (car is stored in an unheated garage in northern WI).

      In my crawl space, I have a set of Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds that are old and also balding that I don't really use anymore (tried to sell the wheelset, no one wanted, threw in the crawl space). Looking on tire rack, they no longer make Dunlop Wintersports in size 16".

      I'll be taking it easy on this trip, driving cautiously, roads will be empty, but that also means if I slide off the road it may take awhile to get help.

      Way I see it, I have 4 choices:

      1. Buy nothing, drive up on current summer tires
      2. Buy nothing, drive up on current winter tires
      3. Buy 2 random rear winter tires for ~$300 that I will use basically never use and not worry they don't match the front two (I'd mount the old snows on the front)
      4. Buy 2 new rear summer tires and store the car on those

      Complicating choice #4 is that Direzza IIs are now obsolete and I'd have to buy Direzza IIIs, so I'd prefer to buy a matched set of 4 instead of having IIs on front and IIIs on rear, but again, I'd rather wait until spring to do this, that's $600 I didn't plan on and again I don't want to store it on new tires.

      Leaning towards 2 or 3, rather save $300, but also don't want to potentially damage/total the car to save $300 either.

      Thoughts?
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      My wife wanted a SUV with a manual transmission. I suggested a Wrangler, she said no way, too masculine

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      11-01-2019 11:47 AM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      So here's the latest dilemma. I remembered why I usually don't wait until November to store this car. I'm headed up next weekend to store it, and I'll be driving it there.

      We got a fair amount of snow and ice yesterday, and while it will all melt before I drive up, it does open up the possibility for more snow/precipitation and cold temps.

      So, tires.

      I currently have a set of balding rear Direzza ZIIs on it (fronts are good), they need to be replaced in the spring, but I'd rather not store it in the cold on brand new tires (car is stored in an unheated garage in northern WI).

      In my crawl space, I have a set of Dunlop Wintersport 3Ds that are old and also balding that I don't really use anymore (tried to sell the wheelset, no one wanted, threw in the crawl space). Looking on tire rack, they no longer make Dunlop Wintersports in size 16".

      I'll be taking it easy on this trip, driving cautiously, roads will be empty, but that also means if I slide off the road it may take awhile to get help.

      Way I see it, I have 4 choices:

      1. Buy nothing, drive up on current summer tires
      2. Buy nothing, drive up on current winter tires
      3. Buy 2 random rear winter tires for ~$300 that I will use basically never use and not worry they don't match the front two (I'd mount the old snows on the front)
      4. Buy 2 new rear summer tires and store the car on those

      Complicating choice #4 is that Direzza IIs are now obsolete and I'd have to buy Direzza IIIs, so I'd prefer to buy a matched set of 4 instead of having IIs on front and IIIs on rear, but again, I'd rather wait until spring to do this, that's $600 I didn't plan on and again I don't want to store it on new tires.

      Leaning towards 2 or 3, rather save $300, but also don't want to potentially damage/total the car to save $300 either.

      Thoughts?
      i'd shop around used for two cheap winters for the rears, it's a farily common size, then you can store the car on the wheels/tires you don't care about. don't laugh, but i actually have the stock 16's for my s2k with totally spent all seasons on that i park the car on all winter. no sense in potentially flat spotting the good fun stuff i use all summer. bet you could get two used rear 16's, even mismatched mounted and installed around 150 or less.
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      11-01-2019 11:52 AM #108
      Drive up on current tires. Once they get some heat in them on the freeway you'll be fine. Youre over thinking this.
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      11-01-2019 12:47 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Drive up on current tires. Once they get some heat in them on the freeway you'll be fine. Youre over thinking this.
      ^ this

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      11-01-2019 12:53 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Drive up on current tires. Once they get some heat in them on the freeway you'll be fine. Youre over thinking this.

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      11-01-2019 01:05 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Drive up on current tires. Once they get some heat in them on the freeway you'll be fine. Youre over thinking this.
      I'd go with this.



      Are the 16 snows on wheels that fit or would this be a mount/balance situation? If so I'd maybe bring them, throw them on once parked and bring the S2000 wheels back this way you ensure that you do replace the S2000 tires since you won't want to drive on the bald old winter tires in the spring.

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      11-01-2019 01:21 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      I'd go with this.



      Are the 16 snows on wheels that fit or would this be a mount/balance situation? If so I'd maybe bring them, throw them on once parked and bring the S2000 wheels back this way you ensure that you do replace the S2000 tires since you won't want to drive on the bald old winter tires in the spring.
      The snows are on OEM rims all mounted and balanced.


      You've seen an S2000, right? Where am I going to bring up an extra wheelset
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      11-01-2019 01:25 PM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by The_Real_Stack View Post
      The snows are on OEM rims all mounted and balanced.


      You've seen an S2000, right? Where am I going to bring up an extra wheelset

      Well figured maybe not this trip since FIL is just bringing you back right? but holidays whatever.. or just send him back with them so they are there. Then have TR drop off the new tires there, have him take to get mounted. Just tell him its all for the grand kids.

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      11-01-2019 01:34 PM #114
      I used to drive around on bald tires and have a broken wiper motor. Made it everywhere I needed to go. Chris need to put on his American Flag Zubaz and git 'er dun.
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      11-01-2019 01:45 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
      Well figured maybe not this trip since FIL is just bringing you back right? but holidays whatever.. or just send him back with them so they are there. Then have TR drop off the new tires there, have him take to get mounted. Just tell him its all for the grand kids.
      Ah, well if anything what I could do is bring up winter tires in a couple weeks, put them on, and then bring back the summer wheels and have new tires mounted and balanced by my house, and then bring those up at some point. Maybe. I dunno.
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      11-01-2019 01:54 PM #116
      Quote Originally Posted by GreenandChrome View Post
      I used to drive around on bald tires and have a broken wiper motor. Made it everywhere I needed to go.
      I am going to assume everywhere you needed to go was also uphill?

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      11-01-2019 02:00 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      I am going to assume everywhere you needed to go was also uphill?
      Both ways!!!

      Nah, just the big on-ramp to 405 and the hill that followed. A few short hills in Redmond, but most of the commute was flat. Going around sharp corners at speed was fun. It'd be a different story now with all the roundabouts (rotarys for NE folk) we have.
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      11-01-2019 02:13 PM #118
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Drive up on current tires. Once they get some heat in them on the freeway you'll be fine. Youre over thinking this.
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      11-03-2019 11:12 PM #119
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      Drive up on current tires. Once they get some heat in them on the freeway you'll be fine. Youre over thinking this.
      This is why I didn’t want to do that.

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      11-04-2019 09:37 AM #121
      Pssst, zero problems over the weekend:


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      11-04-2019 09:39 AM #122
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      This is why I didn’t want to do that.

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      11-04-2019 12:59 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Pssst, zero problems over the weekend:


      It's all about using the right tool for the job.
      Exactly. If you're ever looking for a car to tow with a GC, the Corrado is *the* choice, as it's reliability record is quite well known.
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      11-04-2019 01:00 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      You made the right decision.
      Meh. I could get another 200-212 miles out of those.
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      11-04-2019 01:02 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by GreenandChrome View Post
      Meh. I could get another 200-212 miles out of those.
      Except I need 350. And then another 350 back in the spring.
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