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      10-01-2019 07:46 AM #1
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      2005 49,233
      2006 54,208
      2007 37,182
      2008 30,816
      2009 11,137
      2010 12,497
      2011 22,835
      2012 125,212
      2013 109,652
      2014 96,649
      2015 78,207
      2016 73,002
      2017 60,722
      2018 41,401
      2019 12,656

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    3. 10-01-2019 09:43 AM #2
      Wow , wonder how much longer they will continue with it , damn this electric vehicle BS . Not everyone wants a SUV or can afford a 70k electric 300 mile range vehicle .

    4. 10-01-2019 11:34 AM #3
      Only 12k this year is depressing. I wonder if that figure is up to date.

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      10-01-2019 09:36 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by owens76 View Post
      Only 12k this year is depressing. I wonder if that figure is up to date.
      6 dealerships in my area (philly) haven't had any new Passats since like May. I just did a search on cars.com for 2019 passats (new) and it shows ONLY 414 available for sale in the whole country.
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      2008 touareg
      2015 passat limited
      2019 atlas 4motion se tech Rline

    7. 10-01-2019 10:20 PM #5
      Yes good luck finding one especially in Texas looked all over for a 2019 R line and finally had to settle for a WOLFSBURG but either way I'm still happy and love it. Never understand why these cars are so in short supply

      Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

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      10-02-2019 06:33 AM #6
      Honda Accord – US – By Year

      Year Total
      2005 376,293
      2006 354,441
      2007 382,231
      2008 368,161
      2009 290,056
      2010 311,381
      2011 252,304
      2012 353,204
      2013 366,678
      2014 388,435
      2015 355,557
      2016 345,135
      2017 322,655
      2018 291,071
      2019 204,463

      Toyota Camry – US – By Year

      Year Total
      2005 431,703
      2006 448,445
      2007 472,808
      2008 436,617
      2009 356,824
      2010 327,553
      2011 306,510
      2012 404,885
      2013 408,484
      2014 428,606
      2015 429,355
      2016 388,616
      2017 387,081
      2018 343,439
      2019 226,470

      Hyundai Sonata – US – By Year

      Year Total
      2005 130,365
      2006 149,513
      2007 145,568
      2008 117,357
      2009 120,028
      2010 196,623
      2011 225,961
      2012 230,605
      2013 203,648
      2014 216,936
      2015 213,303
      2016 199,408
      2017 131,803
      2018 105,118
      2019 68,368

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      10-02-2019 09:14 AM #7
      Notice the trend? These sedans all peaked around 2014 and have declined in sales since. Maybe the CUV/SUV craze? I find a sedan more practical.
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    10. 10-07-2019 10:59 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by FLcruising View Post
      Notice the trend? These sedans all peaked around 2014 and have declined in sales since. Maybe the CUV/SUV craze? I find a sedan more practical.
      The current SUV craze started around that time, yes. This may be hard to believe, but the Passat is actually the 10th bestselling car of all time with over 15 million sold since it debuted in 1973. It's just never really caught on in the US, where it was called the Dasher from the mid-70s until the early 80s, and then the Quantum until 1990. I agree that the SUV craze is puzzling . Sedans are more practical because they handle better, ride better, get better fuel economy, and are less prone to experience a rollover in an accident due to the lower center of gravity, and in the case of Crossovers, there's a big catch when it comes to the notion that they have more cargo room than a sedan: in order for those cubic feet in a crossover to exceed that of a sedan's trunk, you either have to fold the rear seat down or block your rear visibility by stacking items vertically. A conventional trunk is MUCH more practical, IMO. SUV craze or not, the much higher sales numbers of Japanese cars over VWs in the US has been going on for 40 years, thanks to biased publications like Consumer Reports that grossly exaggerate reliability (or the lack thereof), but the Passat is a HUGE seller in Europe, China, and South America. I just hope when the 2020s arrive, the dismal sales numbers of 2019 quadruple. As of Oct 1, US Passat sales are just a tad under 13,000 units. I would also suspect that production has ceased for 2019s and that even when it was still going, the Chattanooga plant chose to ship Atlases to dealerships because of the SUV fad.
      Last edited by fiftysomething; 10-07-2019 at 11:03 PM.

    11. 10-07-2019 11:12 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Kjmack View Post
      Wow , wonder how much longer they will continue with it , damn this electric vehicle BS . Not everyone wants a SUV or can afford a 70k electric 300 mile range vehicle .
      Agree 100%. I have no need or desire for a SUV and EVs are ridiculously overpriced.

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      10-09-2019 12:40 PM #10
      America's SUV or CUV craze is nuts. All these manufacturers are removing sedans from their model offerings. To me, all these CUVs are starting to look the same with similar headlights, bodylines, etc. I remember when we traded our A4 for a Toyota Venza, wife wanted it since we had our first child and she thought we needed extra room. There was more interior room per se as the Venza was bigger than the A4 but honestly the trunk space was pretty similar and we were not able to fit much more inside.

      Our Passat has tons of interior space for 4 to 5 passengers and the trunk is huge. I was able to get 4 golf bags in there while my friend with a X5 had to put one side of his rear seat folded down to do it. Also, we get better gas mileage than these small SUVs or CUVs. The only advantage to a CUV/SUV is ground clearance and AWD if equipped. I may be in the minority but I just like sedans a lot.

    13. 10-09-2019 11:35 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by LuvMydux View Post
      America's SUV or CUV craze is nuts. All these manufacturers are removing sedans from their model offerings. To me, all these CUVs are starting to look the same with similar headlights, bodylines, etc. I remember when we traded our A4 for a Toyota Venza, wife wanted it since we had our first child and she thought we needed extra room. There was more interior room per se as the Venza was bigger than the A4 but honestly the trunk space was pretty similar and we were not able to fit much more inside.

      Our Passat has tons of interior space for 4 to 5 passengers and the trunk is huge. I was able to get 4 golf bags in there while my friend with a X5 had to put one side of his rear seat folded down to do it. Also, we get better gas mileage than these small SUVs or CUVs. The only advantage to a CUV/SUV is ground clearance and AWD if equipped. I may be in the minority but I just like sedans a lot.
      Exactly. As I said in a few posts above, there's a big catch to the perception that there is more cargo room in Crossovers in particular: They do come up with more cubic feet, but in order to get that increase, you either have to fold the rear seat down or obstruct your rear vision because items have to be stacked vertically. As for AWD, the way I see it, even in a place like where I live (Wisconsin) the only time it really comes in handy is maybe 3-4 days out of the year right after a snowstorm before the plows clear the roads. Otherwise, FWD is perfectly adequate. I can' t speak for other automakers outside of VW, as I don't follow them closely, but while the Tiguan is currently VWoA's bestselling model, cars still make up a good 45-48% of all their sales in the US and it would be insane for VW to pull a "Ford" and dump the Jetta and Passat. They need to get the 2020 Passat out there, and NOW.
      Last edited by Sixtysomething; 10-09-2019 at 11:37 PM.

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      10-10-2019 11:28 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Sixtysomething View Post
      Exactly. As I said in a few posts above, there's a big catch to the perception that there is more cargo room in Crossovers in particular: They do come up with more cubic feet, but in order to get that increase, you either have to fold the rear seat down or obstruct your rear vision because items have to be stacked vertically. As for AWD, the way I see it, even in a place like where I live (Wisconsin) the only time it really comes in handy is maybe 3-4 days out of the year right after a snowstorm before the plows clear the roads. Otherwise, FWD is perfectly adequate. I can' t speak for other automakers outside of VW, as I don't follow them closely, but while the Tiguan is currently VWoA's bestselling model, cars still make up a good 45-48% of all their sales in the US and it would be insane for VW to pull a "Ford" and dump the Jetta and Passat. They need to get the 2020 Passat out there, and NOW.
      Here in Oregon we might get a single day or if lucky a week of snow and at best maybe 2 feet. I had a good set of snow tires on my old Passat and I felt that I was able to go on paved roads all these other trucks, SUVs, and AWD cars were traveling. Now if it was straight unplowed deep snow them maybe not but these manufacturers really do market and sell the "need" for AWD SUVs...

      Funny you mentioned the Tiguan. My wife actually wants to trade her Passat for the SEL R-Line model. If it had 40 more HP then I would but we will wait and see what the Arteon has to offer as we both love the styling.

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      10-10-2019 02:09 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by LuvMydux View Post
      Here in Oregon we might get a single day or if lucky a week of snow and at best maybe 2 feet. I had a good set of snow tires on my old Passat and I felt that I was able to go on paved roads all these other trucks, SUVs, and AWD cars were traveling. Now if it was straight unplowed deep snow them maybe not but these manufacturers really do market and sell the "need" for AWD SUVs...

      Funny you mentioned the Tiguan. My wife actually wants to trade her Passat for the SEL R-Line model. If it had 40 more HP then I would but we will wait and see what the Arteon has to offer as we both love the styling.

      I was originally in the market for a Golf R - it was my dream car. I had 2019 to get it before the mk7.5s were gone, mk8 is hideous. I was also worried about electrifying the drivetrain. I flat out do not want a hybrid or electric car. In the process of looking into the R, I also took a brief look at Tiguans. I came to the realization that they are basically a lifted golf. You get 6" of cargo space in the back and 1" of interior width. In the end, the interest rates - even at prime - were 6% on the Golf R. I ended buying the GT at a deep discount with .9%

    16. 10-14-2019 03:15 PM #14
      I have no interest in an EV, either. They are ridiculously overpriced. If VW made an electric Passat, for example, it would probably cost about $55,000. These people that think the cost of ownership of EVs is lower completely ignore the initial upfront price. Their logic is along the lines of believing that you're better off buying a $100,000 motorhome so you won't have to fork over 80 bucks to stay in a Super 8 motel.

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      10-14-2019 04:05 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Sixtysomething View Post
      I have no interest in an EV, either. They are ridiculously overpriced. If VW made an electric Passat, for example, it would probably cost about $55,000. These people that think the cost of ownership of EVs is lower completely ignore the initial upfront price. Their logic is along the lines of believing that you're better off buying a $100,000 motorhome so you won't have to fork over 80 bucks to stay in a Super 8 motel.
      "BuT tHeY aRe zErO eMiSsIoNs"

      Lithium and rare metal mining aside, the US electric grid is primarily Natural Gas and Coal powered. Your EV is rolling coal.

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