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      12-04-2019 01:52 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Much like I said to Smooremin, veganism isn't just about eating. It extends way past that.

      That being said, both of you are probably representative of the general population's knowledge regarding vegans. I was the same way before I moved to Seattle.
      No, I get it, it's a lifestyle.

      As a car brand I don't think it's necessary to say your seats are vegan. BMW doesn't do it with the i3 and they have no problem selling cars. I'm sure vegans and regular humans both purchase them.
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      maybe its just me, but i wouldnt put anything in the circle of "unrealistic" when it comes to sex.

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      12-04-2019 01:52 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Because I'm not chewing on the f*cking car, that's why.
      As has already been mentioned, vegan isn't just about eating. You think that someone who doesn't eat meat for ethical reasons wants to wear it?

      My wife isn't vegan but it's the only option for things like wine that typically are made with animal by-products in the creation process. And even finding wines that certify as vegan is incredibly difficult. Hell, there are plenty that probably are but since they don't certify there is no way to know.

      EDIT: Complaing that it's called "vegan" is a lot of old man yelling at clouds. A word exists top convey exactly what it is. There is no real reason to invent another.

      And, let's be honest, you know Fisker is targeting these kind of people with a full EV.
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      12-04-2019 01:57 PM #53
      I much prefer a good cloth over. leather...however, that's hard to come by these days.

      If the animal is already being eaten for its tasty beef, why not use the hide? Seems like it would be pretty wasteful to not use all of the animal.
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      12-04-2019 02:01 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      And, let's be honest, you know Fisker is targeting these kind of people with a full EV.
      So by calling it something other than Vegan, they will not buy it??


      Again, call it animal friendly, and everyone is happy. Whats the big deal about that?
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      12-04-2019 02:01 PM #55
      Do they make interior materials that are CrossFit friendly?
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      12-04-2019 02:03 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Colty_CM View Post
      So... 1k miles a year from the solar panel or 2.7 miles a day. That's almost useless. I want to see the math for solar panel charging range (even on a sunny California outing) vs the same vehicle's range without the weight of the solar panel.
      For a single day, probably but like Dave said you need to start somewhere. For the whole year that's pulling three full recharges off of the grid per car. Again not ground breaking but it's a start for people who keep saying that the grid can't handle all the new EVs that are coming. Multiply that over many cars and it does make a difference. And who knows. Maybe as the tech evolves they will develop to provide more of the day to day charge.

      After reading about the subscription program I was fully against it BUT now that I've thought about it for a bit it kind of makes sense. It seems that more and more people don't want to own a car. I get it. It's a lot of money, up keep, depreciation, etc and the majority of the driving public doesn't really care about the car they drive as long as it meets their needed criteria. I've always kept cars a really long time, for the most part, but this model does kind of intrigue me.

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      12-04-2019 02:03 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by IdontOwnAVW View Post
      Do they make interior materials that are CrossFit friendly?
      Don't you bring Subaru's into this.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      maybe its just me, but i wouldnt put anything in the circle of "unrealistic" when it comes to sex.

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      12-04-2019 02:05 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by G0to60 View Post
      For a single day, probably but like Dave said you need to start somewhere. For the whole year that's pulling three full recharges off of the grid per car. Again not ground breaking but it's a start for people who keep saying that the grid can't handle all the new EVs that are coming.
      Oh no.

      You said grid.

      This thread is doomed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      maybe its just me, but i wouldnt put anything in the circle of "unrealistic" when it comes to sex.

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      12-04-2019 02:09 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Oh no.

      You said grid.

      This thread is doomed.
      This thread was already doomed when the allroad owners started chiming in.
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      12-04-2019 02:20 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      So by calling it something other than Vegan, they will not buy it??


      Again, call it animal friendly, and everyone is happy. Whats the big deal about that?
      YOU are the only one unhappy about the word vegan. Why should the rest of the English speaking world stop using that word?
      And again, in the Fisker press release, the word only appears once. We've used it much more in this thread.

      VEGAN VEGAN VEGAN

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      12-04-2019 02:20 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Oh no.

      You said grid.

      This thread is doomed.

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      12-04-2019 02:22 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      YOU are the only one unhappy about the word vegan. Why should the rest of the English speaking world stop using that word?
      And again, in the Fisker press release, the word only appears once. We've used it much more in this thread.

      VEGAN VEGAN VEGAN
      By leaving vegan out of it, the car will appeal to more people. Their goal is selling cars, make them as friendly to ALL people as you possibly can.

      How do vegans feel about oil? It comes from dead dinosaurs, and those were animals.

      So quite frankly I think anyone with rubber tires on their car who shouts "vegan this vegan that" is full of sh*t.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
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      12-04-2019 02:22 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      YOU are the only one unhappy about the word vegan. Why should the rest of the English speaking world stop using that word?
      And again, in the Fisker press release, the word only appears once. We've used it much more in this thread.

      VEGAN VEGAN VEGAN
      In the context of an automobile, it is a pretty silly word choice.

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      12-04-2019 02:24 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat!!!! View Post
      I much prefer a good cloth over. leather...however, that's hard to come by these days.

      If the animal is already being eaten for its tasty beef, why not use the hide? Seems like it would be pretty wasteful to not use all of the animal.
      I don't disagree, but the option for "animal-free" should exist for people whose religion or lifestyle is opposed to consuming animals (or cows, specifically).

      It has always seemed odd to me that a rapidly depreciating Ford Taurus would be lined with the skins of a formerly living being(s).
      That just feels upside down on the Karma index.

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      12-04-2019 02:25 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post

      VEGAN VEGAN VEGAN





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      12-04-2019 02:26 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      By leaving vegan out of it, the car will appeal to more people. Their goal is selling cars, make them as friendly to ALL people as you possibly can.

      How do vegans feel about oil? It comes from dead dinosaurs, and those were animals.

      So quite frankly I think anyone with rubber tires on their car who shouts "vegan this vegan that" is full of sh*t.
      Oil is mostly plant matter, but even if it contains dinosaur juice, those animals died naturally and weren't killed for their skin or meat.

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      12-04-2019 02:36 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      Oil is mostly plant matter, but even if it contains dinosaur juice, those animals died naturally and weren't killed for their skin or meat.
      Not even a single one?

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      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
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      12-04-2019 02:52 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      So by calling it something other than Vegan, they will not buy it??

      Again, call it animal friendly, and everyone is happy. Whats the big deal about that?
      I have yet to see a rational reason for not using "vegan" posted by anyone here.

      You think it's dumb? That's not rational.

      There are plenty of people, like my wife, that appreciate the companies go to the effort of specifically saying they are vegan because there is no ambiguity.
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      12-04-2019 02:53 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Smooremin View Post
      So by calling it something other than Vegan, they will not buy it??


      Again, call it animal friendly, and everyone is happy. Whats the big deal about that?
      You're the one policing the word choice. I really think others don't care that much...

      Calling it vegan gets the point across.


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      Don't you bring Subaru's into this.

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      12-04-2019 02:58 PM #70
      Any chance we can drop the semantics on a single word and discuss the car, the strategy, etc. ? It’s actually pretty groundbreaking stuff.

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      12-04-2019 03:04 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Any chance we can drop the semantics on a single word and discuss the car?
      You must be new here.


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      12-04-2019 03:05 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Any chance we can drop the semantics on a single word and discuss the car, the strategy, etc. ? It’s actually pretty groundbreaking stuff.
      I tried.
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      Fair enough.

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      12-04-2019 03:06 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      There are plenty of people, like my wife, that appreciate the companies go to the effort of specifically saying they are vegan because there is no ambiguity.
      Her car has leather seats, correct?
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      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
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      12-04-2019 03:07 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Any chance we can drop the semantics on a single word and discuss the car, the strategy, etc. ? It’s actually pretty groundbreaking stuff.
      My bad. Truthfully it will be hard for me to get excited about this car until it is shown. I've become jaded by companies promising a lot and not delivering.
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      12-04-2019 03:07 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Car_Guy View Post
      Any chance we can drop the semantics on a single word and discuss the car, the strategy, etc. ? It’s actually pretty groundbreaking stuff.
      The range is important to me. A sub $40,000 EV that can go 300 miles would absolutely competitive enough for me to think about ditching gasoline for my wife's daily driver.
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