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    Thread: MK7 Porsche Macan Brake Upgrade.

    1. 11-26-2019 03:24 PM #1
      They are direct fit on PP, R, and S3 with the info below. They also are direct fit on new A4 and A5, but brake lines will be different and you will need to look at the list below and figure out the correct pad based on your cars rotor diameter. They also fit the regular MK7 Golf, but you'll need to add PP rotors to the cost.

      So I verified the pad fitment for PP, R, and S3. Part number for calipers...

      95B-615-123-F
      95B-615-124-F

      Sunset Porsche sells them for $242 each.

      Pagid 2487 is the backing plate for the Macan pads and these are all the Pagid pads that use the same plate and thickness of pad. All of the below vehicles use the exact same pad as the Macan, regardless of rotor size.

      REF NO. THICKNESS MAKE MODEL YEAR FRONT
      2487 15.4 mm Aston Martin DB 9 04 → X, 355mm
      2487 15.4 mm Aston Martin Vantage V8 GT4 ProDrive [race car] 12 → X, no idea, likely 370mm.
      2487 15.4 mm Audi TT RS 2.5 Quattro 09 → X, 370mm
      2487 15.4 mm Cadillac CTS-V (4 piston front caliper) 03 → 09 X, 355mm
      2487 15.4 mm Chevrolet Corvette Brembo non ceramic 09 → X, 380mm
      2487 15.4 mm Chevrolet Camaro SS non-1LE 09 → X, 345mm x 30mm
      2487 15.4 mm Ford GT 04 → 06 X X, 355mm
      2487 15.4 mm Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 07 → X, 355
      2487 15.4 mm Ford Mustang Boss 302 12 → X, 355mm
      2487 15.4 mm Honda (Acura) Acura TL 04 → X, 330mm
      2487 15.4 mm Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 track 10 → X, 340mm
      2487 15.4 mm Mitsubishi Lancer Evo V - Evo IX 98 → 06 X, 330mm
      2487 15.4 mm Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 07 → X, 350mm
      2487 15.4 mm Subaru STI 03 → X, 330mm
      2487 15.4 mm Volvo S60 Turbo R Brembo brakes 03 → X, 305mm
      2487 15.4 mm Volvo V70 R 2.5T Brembo brakes 03 → X, 305mm
      2487 15.4 mm Audi A3 RS3 Quattro 11 → X, 370mm
      2487 15.4 mm Dodge Viper SRT TA (time attack) 14 → X X, 355mm as far as I can find.

      For brake lines, email [email protected] and ask for the below.

      Need 24" custom brake lines.
      Hard line side 2016 Audi S3.
      Needs the fitting to secure line to the knuckle.
      Caliper side 2014 Audi S4.

      They were $50 + $9 shipping handling and he can do SS if you request. You can also use stock Macan lines but they're more expensive new and you have to ziptie them, so why? They can make them in SS.

      Wheel fitment. 17" and 18" barrels pretty easily clear the calipers, it's all going to be down to spoke design. The only wheels I know for sure that fit are listed below. I'll add to the list as I verify.

      18x8.5 +45 Neuspeed RSe10
      18 x 7.5 +51 factory Pretorias DO NOT FIT
      17 x 7.5 +45 Konig Runlites fit with 10mm spacer.

      Template for testing fitment with Macan calipers.

      http://bd8ba3c866c8cbc330ab-7b26c6f3...K_Template.pdf

      For pads I used Z26 and Track Day. For $200 I got a set of street pads and track pads that are designed for these calipers. Part numbers below and I'll let everyone know about fitment once they come in and how they perform on street and track. I'll be running them on track with RE71R's, SRF fluid, and I'm not a slow driver. Autocross I'm top 5 pax in a large region with 5 or 6 current and former national champions and I beat up on some much faster cars on track, do some endurance racing raced carts as a kid and I'm a second slower at Sebring in a T4 Miata than my codriver who was just picked up for a TCA seat. , so I should be able to give a really good idea of how the Track Pads hold up.

      Power Stop Z26-1001 $79
      Power Stop PST-1001 $120

      Rebuild kits for brakes.

      Disc Brake Caliper Repair Kit
      Centric Parts
      Part Number: 143.62059

      Brake ducting

      I'm removing the heat shields and I've bought Porsche GT3/2 brake ducts. They're $8 a set.

      M6 R/R32/CC 345mm x 32mm rotors fit perfectly, but you can still use your 340mm x 30mm without issue. I test fitted rotors off a friends mk6 R and it's perfect. About 1 to 1.5mm above and below the pad not being swept by pad.
      Last edited by Silver_arrow12!; 12-19-2019 at 05:12 PM.

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      11-26-2019 04:39 PM #2
      Thanks for all the good info. I'm guessing that you'll need the PP caliper brackets to mount the macan calipers to a non-PP car.
      Definitive list of MK7 clutch options: https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...#post113931767

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      11-27-2019 09:46 AM #3
      Cool information. And pretty reasonably priced when you compare upgrading non PP to PP brakes.
      I added this to the FAQ.

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      11-27-2019 11:14 AM #4
      I've been contemplating the cost benefit for a big brake package and for a daily driver that may see a track a few times a year, it doesn't make sense, but clearly, the Macan package does. I wonder what the weigh difference is weight is between the stock calipers and the Macan calipers...reducing unsprung weight is a goal too...

      Thank you for this information!


      Quote Originally Posted by EPilot View Post
      Cool information. And pretty reasonably priced when you compare upgrading non PP to PP brakes.
      I added this to the FAQ.
      Bilstein B14, Ground Control adjustable camber plates, 034 stiffer upper rear mount, TT RS front control arm bushings, 034 22.2 adjustable rear swaybar, Cryo Stoptech slotted rotors with Isweep 3000 short track pads front, Stoptech slotted rotors and Isweep 2500 pads rear, SS brake lines, Pilot AS3+ GIAC Stage 1 low torque tune. WINTER - Hakkapalliita 9 studded snows on black 17"x7" Enkei wheels

    7. 11-27-2019 12:05 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by meboice View Post
      I've been contemplating the cost benefit for a big brake package and for a daily driver that may see a track a few times a year, it doesn't make sense, but clearly, the Macan package does. I wonder what the weigh difference is weight is between the stock calipers and the Macan calipers...reducing unsprung weight is a goal too...

      Thank you for this information!
      I'll post weights when I get them in.

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    8. 11-27-2019 06:21 PM #6
      First one is Q5 pad, doesn't have all measurements. Second is RS3. Third is STI/EVO

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    9. 11-27-2019 06:25 PM #7
      The Hyundai Genisis Coupe 3.8 Track pads I received today backing plate was77.5 mm tall, 131.8mm wide, and the pad material height is 60mm, which is 5 mm more than the STI/EVO pad height.

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    10. 11-29-2019 08:56 PM #8
      Custom SS brake lines.

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      11-30-2019 08:21 PM #9
      Ok
      So this has been discussed elsewhere but ill ask this here.
      OP, since r/s3/pp 340mm rotors are 50mm tall and macan/q5 345mm rotors are 52mm tall (both340 and 345mm rotors are 30mm thick) do these calipers sit centered over the rotor or are they offset my 2mm ( the height difference betwenn the 345 and 340mm rotors

      Secondly, how do the pads sit on the rotor. Since the macan rotor is 5mm larger does the top of pad sit higher than the top edge of the rotor.

      Thanks
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    12. 11-30-2019 08:44 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by therealvrt View Post
      Ok
      So this has been discussed elsewhere but ill ask this here.
      OP, since r/s3/pp 340mm rotors are 50mm tall and macan/q5 345mm rotors are 52mm tall (both340 and 345mm rotors are 30mm thick) do these calipers sit centered over the rotor or are they offset my 2mm ( the height difference betwenn the 345 and 340mm rotors

      Secondly, how do the pads sit on the rotor. Since the macan rotor is 5mm larger does the top of pad sit higher than the top edge of the rotor.

      Thanks
      I posted that answer in the posts directly above yours.

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      11-30-2019 08:54 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Silver_arrow12! View Post
      I posted that answer in the posts directly above yours.

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      I am not seeing anything.
      So you are saying you bolted these on to a mk7 with 340mm oem rotors and the caliper sits dead center over the rotor.
      Ie.. exact same distance from rotor face to edge of calipers on both sides

      Also i missed where you said the pads do/ do not hang over the 340mm rotors. Id run the mk5/mk6 R 345mm rotors instead.

      I ask this because these calipers are spaced to run a 345mm rotor so just throwing a different pad on isn't going to change anything. Your genesis may have 340mm rotors but the genesis caliper is designed to have the caliper spacing setup for a 340mm rotor therefore is caliper is 2.5mm closer to the hub than the macan caliper.

      Post pics of the install if you have any please
      Thanks!,
      Last edited by therealvrt; 11-30-2019 at 09:00 PM.
      #melnykout

    14. 11-30-2019 09:48 PM #12
      I swear, you're killing me brother.

      Look at the different sizes of rotors this backing plate covers and look at the different pad dimensions posted. I spent hours researching this and I haven't tested all of them, just the STI, but you can come to some conclusions with the info.

      The top of no matter which compatible pad you use with the correct thickness sits in about the same spot. In the GTI it sits about 1mm from the outside of the rotor because the hub is different than the Macan. If you use the STI pads, you'll have 5mm of rotor surface not used near the hub. That's what others have used. I researched all pads used with 4 pot brembos that used the same pad design. I noticed that the pin holes, width were all the same, but the larger the rotor in the application, the taller the pad. So I found another application that also used 340mm x 30mm rotor. Which leaves us with Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track. The pad area is 5mm taller than rhe STI pads.

      I haven't been able to test them yet, but I believe they'll be a perfect fit. I'll fill everyone in.



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      Last edited by Silver_arrow12!; 11-30-2019 at 09:58 PM.

    15. 12-08-2019 04:42 PM #13
      Just measured height of stock PP pad. It's 63.5 mm. Brembo pads 60mm.

      PP have 1 mm top and bottom with no contact.

      Brembos pad sits flush on the outer edge and leaves 4 mm unswept near the hub.

      Look like there might be enough room between outside of rotor and caliper to go 345mm mk6 R, but based on the drawings and my measurements, you'd end up with >2mm ish unswept at the out edge and >2mm ish near the hub. I don't know if that's better or worse.

      I'm trying to find someone with an old mk6 R rotor to test fit.

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      Last edited by Silver_arrow12!; 12-08-2019 at 05:45 PM.

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      12-16-2019 10:10 AM #14
      any update on the swap?

    17. 12-16-2019 03:46 PM #15
      Yep, got them on yesterday. Pretorias will need 15mm spacer, not 10mm as I originally measured.

      They feel so much better than PP. So easy to modulate. Worth every penny.


      Last edited by Silver_arrow12!; 12-16-2019 at 03:52 PM.

    18. 12-16-2019 03:50 PM #16
      Pics are posting upside down. Rotated 180, still show upside down.

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      12-16-2019 05:50 PM #17
      whats the spec on the wheels? I'm wondering if Konig Hypergram 18x8.5 ET45 will fit without any spacers, otherwise I would need to get 18x8 and use spacer

    20. 12-16-2019 07:40 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by junhojin123 View Post
      whats the spec on the wheels? I'm wondering if Konig Hypergram 18x8.5 ET45 will fit without any spacers, otherwise I would need to get 18x8 and use spacer
      They're 17 x 7.5 ET45 plus 10mm spacer.

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    21. 12-16-2019 10:12 PM #19
      I have a discarded set of mk6 R rotors that I'm going to test fit to see if they fit better than the 340mm. My measurements say yes, but then again, apparently I suck at measuring.

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      12-17-2019 03:48 PM #20
      so what pad exactly did you go with in the end?

    23. 12-17-2019 04:00 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by junhojin123 View Post
      so what pad exactly did you go with in the end?
      It appears that the pad is the same for all these applications, no matter the disk diameter. . Just look for Subaru STI 04 - 16.

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      12-17-2019 08:28 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Silver_arrow12! View Post
      It appears that the pad is the same for all these applications, no matter the disk diameter. . Just look for Subaru STI 04 - 16.

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      sorry for being a little dense, brakes and pad specification is a bit out of my comfort zone. Porsche part # indicates 9A7-698-451-00, and those pads from the picture looks vastly different from ones offered for STI 04-16 range, especially the ears/tabs.

      I'm trying to get this set up as a street/track day set up, don't want to waste money by lack of research (not you, by me)

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      12-17-2019 09:35 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Silver_arrow12! View Post
      Yep, got them on yesterday. Pretorias will need 15mm spacer, not 10mm as I originally measured.

      They feel so much better than PP. So easy to modulate. Worth every penny.

      Did you do any other in depth install pics to give us an idea of what's involved? Any help on updating part numbers you originally gave to help people with pads and other little parts you might not have mentioned?

      Thanks

    26. 12-17-2019 09:46 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by junhojin123 View Post
      sorry for being a little dense, brakes and pad specification is a bit out of my comfort zone. Porsche part # indicates 9A7-698-451-00, and those pads from the picture looks vastly different from ones offered for STI 04-16 range, especially the ears/tabs.

      I'm trying to get this set up as a street/track day set up, don't want to waste money by lack of research (not you, by me)
      They definitely use a common pad used by everything from the last viper, sti, evo, mustang, Camaro, RS3, TTRS, vette, Hyundai coupe. Literally almost every car with 4 pot Brembos uses the same pads.

      I'll post the results of the Mk6 R rotors Thursdays and I ordered a different set pins that use a cotter pin instead of having to use a punch to get pins in and out.

      I'm 100% about the pads though.



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    27. 12-17-2019 10:02 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by EPilot View Post
      Did you do any other in depth install pics to give us an idea of what's involved? Any help on updating part numbers you originally gave to help people with pads and other little parts you might not have mentioned?

      Thanks
      The install is pretty straight forward.

      1. Remove sliding bolts on back of carrier.
      2. Remove clip that holds brake line to hub.
      3. Remove caliper and find somewhere to set it without damaging brake line. Don't remove the soft line from hard line yet.
      4. Remove carrier and pads. I had to use an impact. Turning the wheel can help gain access with the impact wrench.
      5. Install brake line into Brembo.
      6. Use stock carrier bolts to bolt brembo to hub.
      7. Now remove the old soft line from the hard line after throughly cleaning the area with brake cleaner. Quickly screw the new soft line to hard line.
      8. Put brake line clips back in at the hub and hardline.
      9. Install pads. Make no brake fluid on your hands.
      10 bleed the brakes.
      11. Bed pads.
      12. Profit.

      If you've done any brake work before, it's an hour job. If not, go slow and you'll be fine.

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