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    1. 12-01-2019 02:29 AM #1
      The Atlas and Tiguan look to have some problems. I think they are mostly electrical and automatic transmission issues.

      They need to start to improve reliability in the USA, the resale value for a VW is GOD awful. Interesting that Dodge is now in the top 10 for the first time ever.

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      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...sumer-reports/

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    3. 12-01-2019 08:33 AM #2
      not a shocker, their lineup has been quite troubled the past couple years. Not to mention even their own dealers are upset about the vehicles and reliability. VW has a terrible lineup. They have lost their way.

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      12-01-2019 08:39 AM #3
      yet still they continue sell more cars than an other manufacturer in the world, despite the perennial subpar rankings by Consumer Reports.

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      12-01-2019 08:58 AM #4
      Doesn't surprise me.

      Warranty is OMG. But you can't get past a service manager to replace something obviously broken. So doesn't matter if there's a warranty or not.

      This is not the VW I'm used to.
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    6. 12-01-2019 08:59 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      yet still they continue sell more cars than an other manufacturer in the world, despite the perennial subpar rankings by Consumer Reports.
      CR only cares about the junk VW decides to send to the US.

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      12-01-2019 09:02 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by jaystone View Post
      CR only cares about the junk VW decides to send to the US.
      Or the bribe money they take from VW directly.
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    8. 12-01-2019 09:10 AM #7
      Not surprising. They are plagued with issues. The entire turbo everything, emission standards and digitize all things can complicate things further. Terrible dealer service too.

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      12-01-2019 09:15 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by MonsterM View Post
      Not surprising. They are plagued with issues. The entire turbo everything, emission standards and digitize all things can complicate things further. Terrible dealer service too.

      Hahahahah, exactly. I had a haldex rear diff issue. They told me the issue was fixed after compressing the rear shock on the bench. So glad I dumped that mk7 car.
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    10. 12-01-2019 11:06 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by MonsterM View Post
      Not surprising. They are plagued with issues. The entire turbo everything, emission standards and digitize all things can complicate things further. Terrible dealer service too.

      Part and parcel to their mea culpa for dieselgate, minus the terrible dealer service of course.

    11. 12-01-2019 11:08 AM #10
      My 2014 passat 1.8t is the most reliable car i have ever owned.

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      12-01-2019 11:20 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by redbluevette View Post
      My 2014 passat 1.8t is the most reliable car i have ever owned.
      Yeah but we're talking about 2019, and mainly the MQB vehicles that arrived as of 2018. Not the NMS Passat from 2012 on which is a completely different animal. My 2012 Passat was ultra reliable. My atlas not at all. The Arteon I have isn't bad though. Maybe because it's German built.

      Quote Originally Posted by MonsterM View Post
      Not surprising. They are plagued with issues. The entire turbo everything, emission standards and digitize all things can complicate things further. Terrible dealer service too.
      This

    13. 12-01-2019 11:22 AM #12
      My son's 2018 GTI S has been rock solid. My 2019 Rabbit had the stalling issue, but that appears to have resolved.

      I think the more features you add, the worse it gets. That's why I stuck with lower trim levels.

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      12-01-2019 11:24 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by ice4life View Post
      Yeah but we're talking about 2019, and mainly the MQB vehicles that arrived as of 2018. Not the NMS Passat from 2012 on which is a completely different animal. My 2012 Passat was ultra reliable. My atlas not at all. The Arteon I have isn't bad though. Maybe because it's German built.
      My NMS Passat was flawless as well for 4 years and 70k. My MK7 GTI has been perfect so far, but only a year in and less than 8000 miles. Hoping it stays together as I really love the car!
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      12-01-2019 11:30 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by rawk View Post
      My NMS Passat was flawless as well for 4 years and 70k. My MK7 GTI has been perfect so far, but only a year in and less than 8000 miles. Hoping it stays together as I really love the car!

      Contrapositive...

      My MK7 AT was a piece of **** after less than 1k miles. Dealer acknowledged the problem, tech line told them crap.

      So glad I was able to dump that car after the $8k in discounts.
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    16. 12-01-2019 11:44 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by caj1 View Post
      yet still they continue sell more cars than an other manufacturer in the world, despite the perennial subpar rankings by Consumer Reports.
      VW reaches that distinction by making most of their sales in Europe. VW's lucky to sell three hundred thousand units of all models combined here.

      The competition is strong here in the US and we're saturated with good choices in vehicles. We can afford to be picky. Fix your snit or we go next door.

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      12-01-2019 11:52 AM #16
      My wife's 2015 Golf 7 5mt has been perfect for 5 years. Basic maintenance only, zero repairs, and despite living a tough life it feels like it's wearing well and t still looks great.

      My 2018 Alltrack 6mt has had the leaking sunroof and recently had th tranny rebuilt after the 3 main bearing were fried. 1-2 shift is super notchy still. My dealer service has been decent on these issues, they only reason I wouldn't say it's been good is it took two attempts to fix the roof. It's too bad the car has been subpar reliability wise as otherwise I love it. If I have any other issues I'll dump it, though I have also thought about writing nicely to VW Canada and seeing if they would do anything to get me into a 2019 with a good deal.

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      12-01-2019 11:53 AM #17
      Maybe it wasn't a good idea replacing my 1998 VW with a recent model. My 2019 VW clutch pedal started squeaking. Time to bend over on the driver's seat and apply some lube.

    19. 12-01-2019 12:39 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by dr_spock View Post
      Maybe it wasn't a good idea replacing my 1998 VW with a recent model. My 2019 VW clutch pedal started squeaking. Time to bend over on the driver's seat and apply some lube.




    20. 12-01-2019 12:45 PM #19
      Now that I think about it, every single VW that I had left me stranded at least once, for one reason or another ...Most reliable car I ever owned was a Hyundai.

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      12-01-2019 12:54 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Burnette View Post
      VW reaches that distinction by making most of their sales in Europe. VW's lucky to sell three hundred thousand units of all models combined here.

      The competition is strong here in the US and we're saturated with good choices in vehicles. We can afford to be picky. Fix your snit or we go next door.
      VW reaches that milestone by being number 1 in EU, China (which has far more competition than in US), and among the top brands in South America. And both Europe and China have more manufacturers and cut throat competition. The US market does not even compare to the Chinese market, the myriad brands they have, tons of EVs coming out, and they also sell 7 million more cars than US does annually. US is not some special place which gets good choices in vehicles and only Americans can be picky.

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      12-01-2019 12:58 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by syntrix View Post
      Doesn't surprise me.

      Warranty is OMG. But you can't get past a service manager to replace something obviously broken. So doesn't matter if there's a warranty or not.

      This is not the VW I'm used to.
      Yeah, except the warranty is no longer OMG.

      Lots of issues across the board. Sunroofs, stalling issues, etc. Sad.

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      12-01-2019 01:16 PM #22
      It’s mostly the SUV’s having issues (all pano sunroofs will Fail, only lease those for any brand, IMO). I think the new 8 speed auto is crap. They need to fix that ASAP and remove it from the Arteon for the DSG.
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    24. 12-01-2019 01:19 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Swappy View Post
      VW reaches that milestone by being number 1 in EU, China (which has far more competition than in US), and among the top brands in South America. And both Europe and China have more manufacturers and cut throat competition. The US market does not even compare to the Chinese market, the myriad brands they have, tons of EVs coming out, and they also sell 7 million more cars than US does annually. US is not some special place which gets good choices in vehicles and only Americans can be picky.
      Buick is big in China too but that doesn't make it a great brand, you see that because China has a growing middle class that is underserved. * China sold 28 million vehicles last year to our 17 million sold here, an 11 million unit difference. So China is a special market for sure and drawing buying distinctions from it is honestly an inexact exercise.

      VW sells a1,700,000 unitsin Europe. The UK has similar results as we. ** In one survey in the UK the Golf ranked 79th in reliability. *** In another the VW brand ranked 16th out if 31 brands. At least the UK seems like they feel the same way we do about VW.


      * https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...o-decades.html

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      https://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100

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      https://www.whatcar.com/news/the-uks...r-makes/n20072

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      12-01-2019 01:22 PM #24
      I am not surprised, after so many issues in the past they still cannot figure out how to design / manufacture water pump and thermostat that doesn’t leak...

    26. 12-01-2019 01:24 PM #25
      Oh, and modem VW's are a lot more reliable than in the 80's and 90's. It was a **** show back then.

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