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      12-14-2019 03:05 PM #1
      I'm due for a new DD and can't decide if I should with go with a panoroof or not. On one the hand they brighten up the interior making it seem more spacious, on the other had they tend to have problems such as possible leaks, shattering, etc... Additionally, we have sunroofs on two of our cars and I rarely use them, as a matter of fact I don't remember using them more than a couple of times. It's either too hot outside, too cold or raining, and unless I'm cruising below 30mph, they are uncomfortably noisy.

      Other than the resale value (if any), am I missing anything? What's you take on Panoroofs?

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      12-14-2019 03:06 PM #2
      Depends on the manufacturer. I wouldn’t trust one from VW.
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      12-14-2019 03:12 PM #3
      We have had sunroofs on most of our cars going back to the 1980s and have never once had an issue. I've had friends have some draining issues, but those were usually cars that were notorious for those kinds of issues (looking at you Volvo P1).

      My current DD has an all glass roof, granted it doesn't open. Driven it through winter and everything, no issues. I suppose if you got impaled from the top one day it might be an issue, but I don't see how it would be much worse than the thin sheet metal on most car roofs.

      Some sort of glass or openable roof is actually one of my must-haves on cars. I say do it.
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      12-14-2019 03:17 PM #4
      Data point: my mom's 2016 Volvo XC90 has been ultra reliable, except for the gawdamn horrible panoramic roof. It's been back to the dealership several times to deal with with the window shade not working and water getting into the trunk when it rains

      Sunroofs suck, slicktop all the things

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      12-14-2019 03:18 PM #5
      The one in my Mini was nice when it wasn't moody. It was difficult to adjust, and warm weather would make the seals swell just enough to cause it to "bounce back" and refuse to tilt. It also turned the interior into an EZ Bake Oven, and I needed to buy aftermarket shades to stick in there. In their infinite wisdom, the designers thought it was cute to have perforated sunshades for the glass roof. It was nice to have on occasion, but not a necessity.
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      12-14-2019 03:41 PM #6
      I never had leakage issues with my VW roofs (although it is a common issue). However, if the power sunshade is the mesh type, and not the solid type, the car does get much hotter when parked. That was my biggest complaint on my Atlas, Touareg and Cayenne (the mesh shade). On my GC, the solid shade was great.

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      12-14-2019 03:51 PM #7
      I don't think they are made out of laminated glass. So for me no, I carry stuff on the roof rack. One miss loading adventure and it could be a goner.

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      12-14-2019 04:20 PM #8
      Whatcha gonna get?
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      12-14-2019 04:26 PM #9
      I say go for it.

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      12-14-2019 05:43 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by whalemingo View Post
      Whatcha gonna get?
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      12-14-2019 05:55 PM #11
      If given a choice, hard no.

      It's a hole in the roof, man.
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      12-14-2019 06:21 PM #12
      Of the many cars I've owned only 3 did not have a sunroof, and 2 of those were convertibles.

      With the trend towards all black interiors (which I'm not a fan of, its too dark inside) they do "... brighten up the interior making it seem more spacious" as you stated.

      I'd go with the Panoroof personally.

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      12-14-2019 06:32 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Depends on the manufacturer. I wouldn’t trust one from VW.
      That, and depends on the car too. They're not all created equal. OP I would pick a car and sit in both and then decide.

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      12-14-2019 06:48 PM #14
      Not that it's a major known issue but the sunroof on my '14 F150 shattered on me out of nowhere one day driving down the freeway a couple of years ago. Not glitches or issues prior, just boom....sounded like a gun went off in my truck. Was about 80 degrees outside so no issue with major heat either.

      I'd buy a vehicle with a sunroof again though, as i've had them on most everything in the last 15 years. The other thing about sun/pano roofs is they usually package them with other nice amenities like ...idk...bluetooth? LOL.
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      12-14-2019 07:21 PM #15
      I love the idea of a panoramic sunroof but would never own one due to reliability concerns. Maybe if it was a Toyota, I'd go for it.

      All three of my Mazda's have had sunroofs and they've all been reliable. My parents no longer use the panoramic sunroof on their Touareg; its been a constant issue.

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      12-15-2019 11:43 AM #16
      I love the sun/moonroof types that retract into the roof itself . The pano roofs, and those that open/retract above and sit ON the roof, not so much. I currently have a GTI with the retract-inside type moonroof. Love it. Nice and tight, doesn't leak, no problems. And it has the solid sunshade.

      I had 2009 Audi A3, with pano roof, and mesh sunshade. While it didn't leak, and functioned properly, at certain times ( I never knew what prompted this) it would make these gawd-awful, loud cracking noises like the glass was shattering! No glass was broken or cracked, though, and the roof would open and retract smoothly. But that noise......ugh. And yea, not a fan of that mesh sunshade. Car was always hot.

      I had the Audi dealer thoroughly check the roof out, clean and re-lube it, more than once. It would still make the cracking noise. Finally traded it in for the GTI.
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      12-15-2019 12:01 PM #17
      I love how my Giulia panoramic glass sunroof clicks and creaks over every bump when temp below 35*F. But I fix it the old school way by turning up the volume knob on the stereo and mashing the gas pedal.

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      12-15-2019 12:10 PM #18
      Now that I think about it, all of my VAG buddies always had horror story moonroof mechanisms or the electronics wouldn't allow it to open or some such. I used to use my Mazda3's sunroof in the winter at -15 C on the regular without issue.
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      12-15-2019 12:36 PM #19
      *knock on wood* I’ve never had issues with a sunroof from either domestic or german or japanese manufacturers. for pano roofs I’ve logged 140k between two cars and zero issues over a decade.
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      12-15-2019 01:45 PM #20
      we have sunroofs on two of our cars and I rarely use them, as a matter of fact I don't remember using them more than a couple of times
      For me a sunroof is a must, by your own words you might pass.

      The panoramic on my S5 also has a motorized sunshade, both can move independently. I find it brillant.

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      12-15-2019 06:09 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-3 View Post
      I love the sun/moonroof types that retract into the roof itself . The pano roofs, and those that open/retract above and sit ON the roof, not so much.
      That too, I don't like how Panoroofs hang on the top when open, they just don't look right.

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      12-15-2019 08:16 PM #22
      Slick top

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      12-15-2019 09:33 PM #23
      2018 GTI. One of the reasons I got rid of the car a year later was all the squeaks that came with the pano roof. Loved it otherwise. And yes I had diff types of grease on there, tapes and adjustments done. No leaks tho...
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      12-15-2019 10:03 PM #24
      My last three cars have had sunroofs, one of them a panoramic sunroof. Each one I opened once, to see if it worked.
      Two of the cars I bought used, one I bought new but off the lot, so I had no choice.
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      12-15-2019 10:40 PM #25
      I'd be more interested in a fixed translucent roof than a complicated one that can open up. The extra daylight would be nice.

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