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    1. 12-19-2019 09:30 AM #1
      In November, the owner of my Ontario, Canada VW dealership was in Chattanooga to see the 2021 Golf R.
      No pictures, as their cell phones were confiscated
      These were his notes:
      -the car will be a model year 2021
      -now comes with a sunroof
      -full LED emblem and light strip in front bumper
      -limited slip differential with drift mode option
      -full digital cockpit
      -300+ horse power
      -19" wheels
      -built in Germany

      My background:
      I've been driving GTI's since 1984, all my VW's purchased from the same dealer.
      I've had 3 Golf R's. The first one was a 2012 Rising Blue, now driving a 2019 Indium, all 6MT.
      The 2019 is the best, the 2016 the worst.
      Oh, and I'm 74.

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      12-19-2019 09:33 AM #2
      I’ll post confirmed options as soon as brand publishes the internal MY21 order guides. There’s a mk8 forum by the way


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    4. 12-19-2019 10:02 AM #3
      Thank you, I have reposted in the MK8 forum.

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      12-19-2019 10:19 AM #4
      You forgot the most important part...

      will it be available with a manual?!?

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      12-19-2019 10:38 AM #5
      I like the sunroof - but can live without it
      I like the limited slip diff - easily fixed with the Wavetrac

      The drift mode is interesting to hear how this is accomplished, more aggressive Haldex? With the diff, is it possibly an electronic diff that lets the front wheels carry no power if it wants? That would be the biggest thing to get me out of the MK7.5

      I'm not sure if anything else changes my decision to stick with a 2018 though.

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      12-19-2019 11:38 AM #6
      I bet no manual. I also bet it will have ugly wheels. Nobody wants a manual anyway right boomers?


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      12-19-2019 12:38 PM #7
      Believe nothing until the VW press release is out.

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      12-19-2019 01:02 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by CavinJ View Post
      In November, the owner of my Ontario, Canada VW dealership was in Chattanooga to see the 2021 Golf R.
      No pictures, as their cell phones were confiscated
      These were his notes:
      -the car will be a model year 2021
      -now comes with a sunroof
      -full LED emblem and light strip in front bumper
      -limited slip differential with drift mode option
      -full digital cockpit
      -300+ horse power
      -19" wheels
      -built in Germany

      My background:
      I've been driving GTI's since 1984, all my VW's purchased from the same dealer.
      I've had 3 Golf R's. The first one was a 2012 Rising Blue, now driving a 2019 Indium, all 6MT.
      The 2019 is the best, the 2016 the worst.
      Oh, and I'm 74.
      Why do you dislike the 16’ the most. Cockpit that much better in the 19’?


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      12-19-2019 01:09 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by KrisA View Post
      You forgot the most important part...

      will it be available with a manual?!?
      Despite all of the DSG humpers around here, I'd say it's very likely that it will still have a manual option.

      The R is a crossover model from other cars like the Civic Type R and STI, both of which are exclusively manual. VWoA has also stated that the take rate on the GTI/R combo is as high as 44%, and even higher on the R than the GTI. I find it unlikely that they'd alienate all of those potential buyers.

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      12-19-2019 01:41 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by CavinJ View Post
      In November, the owner of my Ontario, Canada VW dealership was in Chattanooga to see the 2021 Golf R.
      No pictures, as their cell phones were confiscated
      These were his notes:
      -the car will be a model year 2021
      -now comes with a sunroof
      -full LED emblem and light strip in front bumper
      -limited slip differential with drift mode option
      -full digital cockpit
      -300+ horse power
      -19" wheels
      -built in Germany

      My background:
      I've been driving GTI's since 1984, all my VW's purchased from the same dealer.
      I've had 3 Golf R's. The first one was a 2012 Rising Blue, now driving a 2019 Indium, all 6MT.
      The 2019 is the best, the 2016 the worst.
      Oh, and I'm 74.

      All indications are that the GTI will be a late 2021 model. I doubt that VWoA will put out the GTI and Golf R at the same time. I hope your 2021 model year info is correct. For the life of me I can't understand why the North American market is still behind Europe by as much as 2 years with new model introductions.

      Having seen the Golf VIII, I must say that I was disappointed that the exterior is more like a mild facelift than a brand new car. The front looks worse than the Mk 7.5. I'm also not a big fan of the interior design with focus on eliminating all buttons and using gimmicky slider and touchpad controls. The infotainment screen looks badly intergated with the main gauge cluster too.

      This is why I'm contemplating getting a leftover 2019 Golf R 6MT (in Indium gray too, like yours). I'm also curious why you think there's such a quantum improvement from 2016 to 2019 R. If it's the Digital Cockpit, I would have actually preferred the old school analog gauge cluster. To my eyes, the shape of the silver trimmed instrument surround just looks odd with the Digital Cockpit.

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      12-19-2019 01:47 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Ali B View Post
      All indications are that the GTI will be a late 2021 model. I doubt that VWoA will put out the GTI and Golf R at the same time. I hope your 2021 model year info is correct. For the life of me I can't understand why the North American market is still behind Europe by as much as 2 years with new model introductions.

      Having seen the Golf VIII, I must say that I was disappointed that the exterior is more like a mild facelift than a brand new car. The front looks worse than the Mk 7.5. I'm also not a big fan of the interior design with focus on eliminating all buttons and using gimmicky slider and touchpad controls. The infotainment screen looks badly intergated with the main gauge cluster too.

      This is why I'm contemplating getting a leftover 2019 Golf R 6MT (in Indium gray too, like yours). I'm also curious why you think there's such a quantum improvement from 2016 to 2019 R. If it's the Digital Cockpit, I would have actually preferred the old school analog gauge cluster. To my eyes, the shape of the silver trimmed instrument surround just looks odd with the Digital Cockpit.
      The entire mk8 platform is scheduled to launch simultaneously. It is delayed due to several factors, such as homologation, retooling, product launch strategy, and production delays.


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    14. 12-19-2019 01:59 PM #12
      A manual will be availlable in Canada but not in the US.

    15. 12-19-2019 02:18 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by Ali B View Post
      All indications are that the GTI will be a late 2021 model. I doubt that VWoA will put out the GTI and Golf R at the same time. I hope your 2021 model year info is correct. For the life of me I can't understand why the North American market is still behind Europe by as much as 2 years with new model introductions.

      Having seen the Golf VIII, I must say that I was disappointed that the exterior is more like a mild facelift than a brand new car. The front looks worse than the Mk 7.5. I'm also not a big fan of the interior design with focus on eliminating all buttons and using gimmicky slider and touchpad controls. The infotainment screen looks badly intergated with the main gauge cluster too.

      This is why I'm contemplating getting a leftover 2019 Golf R 6MT (in Indium gray too, like yours). I'm also curious why you think there's such a quantum improvement from 2016 to 2019 R. If it's the Digital Cockpit, I would have actually preferred the old school analog gauge cluster. To my eyes, the shape of the silver trimmed instrument surround just looks odd with the Digital Cockpit.
      I got my 19R in April of this year for majority of the reasons you listed here.
      The major issues I cant get over are:
      1. The location of the headlights. Where currently they eat into the hood, the new headlights do not, and are very downward facing. This makes the hood look huge, the general front area bulge out, and on some colors the headlight brow just looks odd from the side
      2. The interior. The badly placed center infotainment...need I say more? Why couldnt they simply do what Audi did and integrate it into the center dash. Hell, they could have done what BMW did which makes the whole thing more presentable.

      Overall the rumored HP bumps are just small optimizations or tune ups. You can get gain the same if not better results with a JB4

      I do like the new LED tech on the outside. Some interior pieces are decent but time will tell.
      I am very curious to see what the R will look like, but I have a feeling it will still disappoint me. I tend to keep my expectations low so I could at least be excited for something.

      Its still is an option for me depending on the looks of a white painted model R.

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      12-19-2019 02:40 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by turbo toic View Post
      Why do you dislike the 16’ the most. Cockpit that much better in the 19’?


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      I know the question was posted to the OP, but the headunit is pretty archaic in comparison to the 2018+
      Analog vs Digital (I do prefer the analog must say for what I use the digital for)

      Otherwise, its the same car (6MT) lol

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      12-19-2019 02:41 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by impulsiv View Post
      A manual will be availlable in Canada but not in the US.
      Canada will also get Spektrum colors but not the US.

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      12-19-2019 02:46 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by impulsiv View Post
      A manual will be availlable in Canada but not in the US.
      How do you know this? It would be one thing if they didn't produce a manual R worldwide, but if the U.S. market uptake for the current manual R is 40% or higher, it makes no sense to drop the manual and potentially lose a big slice of the customer base.

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      12-19-2019 02:55 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Ali B View Post
      How do you know this? It would be one thing if they didn't produce a manual R worldwide, but if the U.S. market uptake for the current manual R is 40% or higher, it makes no sense to drop the manual and potentially lose a big slice of the customer base.
      They don't know. Nobody knows at this point. It's highly unlikely that they'll drop the manual in the US market.


      But I'll agree with most others in this post, I really don't like the direction of the MK8, particularly the interior. MK7.5 interior is vastly superior. I'll just hang around until VW releases an ID.3 R.

    20. 12-19-2019 04:16 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Ali B View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by impulsiv View Post
      A manual will be availlable in Canada but not in the US.
      How do you know this? It would be one thing if they didn't produce a manual R worldwide, but if the U.S. market uptake for the current manual R is 40% or higher, it makes no sense to drop the manual and potentially lose a big slice of the customer base.
      One of my best friends is an exec at VWCan. This is is old news. But the product planers can always change their mind...

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      12-19-2019 04:32 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by pnwbrdr View Post
      I'll just hang around until VW releases an ID.3 R.
      +1

      Except they think the ID.4 is the way Americans want to go, and we are going to need to swallow that over sized bloat of a pill

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      12-19-2019 05:43 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by CavinJ View Post
      In November, the owner of my Ontario, Canada VW dealership was in Chattanooga to see the 2021 Golf R.
      No pictures, as their cell phones were confiscated
      These were his notes:
      -the car will be a model year 2021
      -now comes with a sunroof
      -full LED emblem and light strip in front bumper
      -limited slip differential with drift mode option
      -full digital cockpit
      -300+ horse power
      -19" wheels
      -built in Germany

      My background:
      I've been driving GTI's since 1984, all my VW's purchased from the same dealer.
      I've had 3 Golf R's. The first one was a 2012 Rising Blue, now driving a 2019 Indium, all 6MT.
      The 2019 is the best, the 2016 the worst.
      Oh, and I'm 74.
      I would never believe a Dealer, they are pathological liars! I doubt we get drift mode option and don’t expect to see this until summer of 21’ at the earliest!
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      12-19-2019 05:43 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Rudy_H View Post
      +1

      Except they think the ID.4 is the way Americans want to go, and we are going to need to swallow that over sized bloat of a pill
      I think the ID.3 will still make its way here. We're still getting the 2020 e-golf based off the MK7. I'm assuming there will be no MK8 e-golf now that they developed the ID.3. Once MK8 golf starts shipping, I'd guess that they'll bring the ID.3 over.

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      12-19-2019 05:53 PM #22
      Canada will get kilometers per hour, while the us is stuck with mph.


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      12-19-2019 06:08 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by impulsiv View Post
      One of my best friends is an exec at VWCan. This is is old news. But the product planers can always change their mind...
      Pm me their name


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      12-19-2019 08:56 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by rickandshana View Post
      I bet no manual. I also bet it will have ugly wheels. Nobody wants a manual anyway right boomers?


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      Lol


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      12-19-2019 10:34 PM #25
      I call BS on this story.. not necessarily on the OP, he's just the messenger perhaps, but whoever started it is making it up. Why? Because there is literally NO buzz out there about an R even existing yet in any form. Plus those "details" above are just Captain Obvious stuff, nothing there of any substance at all. Yet this dealer person claims to have seen it? Riiiight.

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