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      01-07-2020 06:14 PM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      I want to suggest a G37, but I feel like that's a loaded + obvious answer coming from me. But they are roomier than the E90, more reliable than the E90 + E60, and tuned + equipped nicely (stickshift = sport package = LSD + big brakes + better steering + other driver goodies). Def worth a look IMO. Everything else is some combo of less reliable, less roomy, worse equipped and wacker drivetrain
      G37 or, more realistically at this budget, G35 sedan is a great option. Probably the best.

      I guess maybe an Accord Sport could be decent too.

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      01-07-2020 06:41 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      Hell, I bought a CPO A3 for less than 20, I'd imagine it would be considerably less with a private party sale and no warranty. Same with A4.
      Good thought here. 2.0T A3, pretty cheap.

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      01-07-2020 06:49 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      I have to say, why not get a 5dr GTI, problem solved? More functional than a sedan and you still get to enjoy a GTI.
      ...Says the guy who ditched his 5dr GTI for a couple of SUVs.

      In related news, my first kiddo will be coming home in a few weeks in the previously-stated MK7 5dr GTI.
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      01-07-2020 06:55 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Slipstream View Post
      ...Says the guy who ditched his 5dr GTI for a couple of SUVs.

      In related news, my first kiddo will be coming home in a few weeks in the previously-stated MK7 5dr GTI.
      Hahah Lease was up , but yea I should have just kept it! But honestly the height of a the SUV is what we enjoy the most. Taking a baby in and our of the car sucks when you have to hunch down. You'll know soon enough Congrats btw

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      01-07-2020 08:44 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by TheLateGTI View Post
      My reply didn't post and I lost the message. so I'll have to give a TLDR:

      -ATS looks awesome, 2.0T RWD 6MT!! Concern is rear seat and trunk size, may be too small?
      -My GTI is awesome and still considering keeping it.
      -C300 is sick + DTM racing prestige
      -328i is similar to my 128i, so that is a solid
      -B5 S4 has imploding engine or was that B6/B7 V8's? Electrical gremlins??
      -4 door GTI/R don't do it for me, grew up in 2 door GTI's (Dad's 1 MKI and 3 MKII's, and owned MKIV)
      -MKIV GLI has aged well, a clean example can still be had with some searching
      -MKVI GLI I should test drive
      -Wife wouldn't be caught dead in a wagon, but give it a couple years, I'll turn her to the dark side. E63 wagon let's go!

      There are the more mature options such as CC and Accords, but at the price point have the Subaru's, Acura's, Honda's and Toyota's age well both interior and exterior? CC certainly has especially a rust free one.
      I said a “well sorted” B5 S4 sir. What could possibly go wrong. I say good day to you sir.


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      01-07-2020 09:52 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by rickandshana View Post
      Well sorted b5 Audi S4.


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      I said a “well sorted” B5 S4 sir. What could possibly go wrong. I say good day to you sir.


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      01-08-2020 10:16 AM #57
      Congrats! Hope you’re able to get some sleep!

      Coming from a father of 2 small kids (3 year old and 14 mos): if you are planning on having another relatively soon, I will def say ignore the 5-door GTI suggestions; I drove my R less than 2k miles last year after my second arrived. I’m sure you already realize how cramped the hatch is with a car seat stroller! Now imagine that space with all the stuff needed for 2 kids. It’s getting easier now that our oldest is nearly potty-trained and our youngest can walk, but until both happened, I never bothered taking the R out for anything besides the occasional weekend spin.

      My Mk 6 Jetta had a HUGE trunk and incredibly spacious rear legroom. It would easily fit a Chicco Keyfit seat, Keyfit stroller, and everything we wanted at the grocery store. So I’d go with the GLI suggestions. Or if you’re not in an emissions state, a TDI that still has the diesel warranty could be a good option, and you can rip out all the exhaust stuff once the warranty is up and get it tuned.

      Or go with the suggestion someone made about having one car. If I could do it again, that’s what I would do!

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      01-08-2020 10:31 AM #58
      sleeper pick here - top-line 2.0T B6 Passat WAGON....cargo for DAYS. Fun with a tune / suspension + excels in the looks department. 14k should get you a mint one with low mileage.



      if the wife doesnt want a wagon, then a B6 sedan...the trunk is still huge...pic of my old steed. really enjoyed it.

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      01-08-2020 11:25 AM #59
      Thanks all! I have been looking at each of the cars and now it comes down to having higher mileage to save thousands, or newer car with barely any maintenance for the first five years for what I’d sell the GTI for. Here is what I found

      E90 328/330 can be had all day for 8-9k which would save me 5-6k. Added familiarity is a bonus.

      Sentra and GLI would be a lateral move and I have all the creature comforts without downgrading a decade.

      ATS I really need to test drive and check out spaciousness for myself. If I am going to a sedan it better be have more room than my GTI.

      C300 can save me 6-7k, and thanks to the poster above that posted the race car. Tranny and engine are stock but I heard that suspension and brakes are from C63 for that race car that has thousands* of hours on it and the owners find it reliable.

      Subaru’s, GTI/R, wagons are currently lower on the list.

      Passat and CC are a strong contender as they can save me 4-7k.

      B7 A4 i would throw into the same category as the E90.

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      01-08-2020 11:37 AM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by jrsmitchell View Post
      First of all, congrats on the first born! <img src="https://www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/thumbup.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb Up" class="inlineimg" />

      For me, as a new dad (and especially once the second one arrived) I found it increasingly difficult to get out with the "fun" weekend car. You may find it more enjoyable to just have the one car - a fun daily that you can enjoy with the kiddos.

      So my write-in vote is to sell both the GTI and the 128 and put in a little more on a cool daily - MK7 Golf R, Stinger GT, 335i M perf, yadda yadda
      Thank you! Don’t get me wrong I have thought about selling the 128i too just for the added bump of cash and to cut my losses (bought new fresh out of college, stupid rookie move). Financially it makes sense as insurance will go down along with maintenance. But it is just an absolute blast to drive and never tire of it. It doesn’t put a strain on me financially now, but if I never purchased it I would have liked to put that unspent money towards my mortgage as a significant paydown on principal.
      But having a daily that is fun for me to enjoy WITH the family is certainly a priority for me.

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      01-08-2020 12:22 PM #61
      Honestly a Mk7 GTI two-door manual is cooler, newer and better than most the suggestions here. If it were me I'd just deal with the inconvenience a bit? Aside from the lack of rear doors it's still plenty practical.

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      01-08-2020 12:33 PM #62
      I have had a development happen to me with my Golf R that needs to be a cautionary tale for you.

      My Golf R is totally stock, driven gently, and has 12K miles on it. I leased it.

      At 12K exactly, my clutch started slipping. Volkswagen is telling me to go take a hike...they are not going to replace the clutch despite clear indications that this is not normal wear and tear.

      I won't get into a sob story here on the internet, but let this be a lesson: The clutches on Mk6s and 7s are weak, and they will not stand behind it if and when they start slipping - which they seem to do even at stock power levels and without abuse.

      So if you do buy one, the 6 year 72K warranty will not save you from a major repair.
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    14. 01-08-2020 12:47 PM #63
      My bone stock 2012 manuel GTI had the clutch go at 30k miles while shifting on the highway from 2nd -> 3rd. Dealer told me clutches are a wear/consumable and since I was the second owner there was no way to prove i didnt abuse it.

      They opened it up and found a defect with the pressure plate and gave me an entire new clutch assembly free. Im at almost 80k miles now, the car has been modded and tuned and the clutch still feels new.

      Just my experience as there are a lot of stories about the clutches on these cars.




      TLDR: 1 mk6 clutch blew up at 30k, another mk6 clutch has gone 50k no problem

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      01-08-2020 12:54 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Maximum_Download View Post
      I have had a development happen to me with my Golf R that needs to be a cautionary tale for you.

      My Golf R is totally stock, driven gently, and has 12K miles on it. I leased it.

      At 12K exactly, my clutch started slipping. Volkswagen is telling me to go take a hike...they are not going to replace the clutch despite clear indications that this is not normal wear and tear.

      I won't get into a sob story here on the internet, but let this be a lesson: The clutches on Mk6s and 7s are weak, and they will not stand behind it if and when they start slipping - which they seem to do even at stock power levels and without abuse.

      So if you do buy one, the 6 year 72K warranty will not save you from a major repair.
      VW is telling you to take a hike, or your dealership is telling you to take a hike?
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      maybe its just me, but i wouldnt put anything in the circle of "unrealistic" when it comes to sex.

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      01-08-2020 12:56 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      VW is telling you to take a hike, or your dealership is telling you to take a hike?
      VWoA. A customer case has been filed.

      The dealer is working with me as best they can, but VW wants me to pay to disassemble the car so pics can be taken of the clutch, flywheel, and pressure plate...with no guarantee the warranty will pick up the repairs. Estimate to do this is 4 digits.

      Again, the car is stock, not modified, and VERY gently driven. It has never been launched from a standing start. Not even once.

      VW is saying the clutch is a wear item and is not covered by the 6 year 72K warranty, and it was denied despite MULTIPLE escalations.

      Considering this is the fifth straight VW for me, I am a little shocked I am being treated this way.
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      01-08-2020 12:59 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by Maximum_Download View Post
      VWoA. A customer case has been filed.

      The dealer is working with me as best they can, but VW wants me to pay to disassemble the car so pics can be taken of the clutch, flywheel, and pressure plate...with no guarantee the warranty will pick up the repairs.

      Considering this is the fifth straight VW for me, I am a little shocked I am being treated this way.
      That's pretty terrible.

      If it were me, and that being said, I don't recommend you do anything I'd do, I'd destroy the clutch/trans. Have it towed to the dealership with your complimentary roadside assistance, request a loaner, and leave it there until it's fixed. I'd also call VWoA every. single. day. requesting an update on the car.
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      maybe its just me, but i wouldnt put anything in the circle of "unrealistic" when it comes to sex.

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      01-08-2020 01:01 PM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      That's pretty terrible.

      If it were me, and that being said, I don't recommend you do anything I'd do, I'd destroy the clutch/trans. Have it towed to the dealership with your complimentary roadside assistance, request a loaner, and leave it there until it's fixed. I'd also call VWoA every. single. day. requesting an update on the car.
      ABusing the car will just guarantee further trouble. I am trying to be a partner here, not antagonistic. It's clear that if there's any chance the car will be repaired under warranty, it will need to be in a situation where VW is out of legs to stand on - especially around abuse. It's VERY clear VW is aware the clutches on these cars are weak and are looking for any and every avenue to get out from having to replace them.

      Oh yeah...no loaners. I didn't mention that. None available.

      Not bad for a $40,000 car, eh?

      This is just developing over Christmas so I haven't really said anything online, but it's starting to look like the endgame here is I am out of luck. Estimates to replace the clutch are around $2,000.
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      01-08-2020 01:04 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Maximum_Download View Post
      I have had a development happen to me with my Golf R that needs to be a cautionary tale for you.

      My Golf R is totally stock, driven gently, and has 12K miles on it. I leased it.

      At 12K exactly, my clutch started slipping. Volkswagen is telling me to go take a hike...they are not going to replace the clutch despite clear indications that this is not normal wear and tear.

      I won't get into a sob story here on the internet, but let this be a lesson: The clutches on Mk6s and 7s are weak, and they will not stand behind it if and when they start slipping - which they seem to do even at stock power levels and without abuse.

      So if you do buy one, the 6 year 72K warranty will not save you from a major repair.
      I'm not defending VW but, clutches are wear and tear. Imagine if every idiot (not saying you) came in with worn out clutches and VW replaced them at good will? They'd go bankrupt. Without knowing your driving habits, but sounds like you didnt abuse it or sounds like you havent done anything do justify the premature wear, it does appear there was some failure.

      Did they even bother to open it up and look? Typically you can tell on the clutch how it was driven or if it was some other factor
      Last edited by absoluteczech; 01-08-2020 at 01:06 PM.

    20. 01-08-2020 01:05 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Pics View Post
      That's pretty terrible.

      If it were me, and that being said, I don't recommend you do anything I'd do, I'd destroy the clutch/trans. Have it towed to the dealership with your complimentary roadside assistance, request a loaner, and leave it there until it's fixed. I'd also call VWoA every. single. day. requesting an update on the car.
      Bad take

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      01-08-2020 01:09 PM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by Maximum_Download View Post
      I have had a development happen to me with my Golf R that needs to be a cautionary tale for you.

      My Golf R is totally stock, driven gently, and has 12K miles on it. I leased it.

      At 12K exactly, my clutch started slipping. Volkswagen is telling me to go take a hike...they are not going to replace the clutch despite clear indications that this is not normal wear and tear.

      I won't get into a sob story here on the internet, but let this be a lesson: The clutches on Mk6s and 7s are weak, and they will not stand behind it if and when they start slipping - which they seem to do even at stock power levels and without abuse.

      So if you do buy one, the 6 year 72K warranty will not save you from a major repair.
      How else are they gonna eat my two buy backs besides denying warranty claims ?

      But jokes aside VW customer service went into the crapper post dieselgate. This is a great post for all the nuts who keeps bringing up buying 2019s for the warranty. A warranty is only as good as the company who stands behind it. And it's clear this brand does not stand behind their products.

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    23. 01-08-2020 01:11 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by maximum_download View Post
      i have had a development happen to me with my golf r that needs to be a cautionary tale for you.

      My golf r is totally stock, driven gently, and has 12k miles on it. I leased it.

      At 12k exactly, my clutch started slipping. Volkswagen is telling me to go take a hike...they are not going to replace the clutch despite clear indications that this is not normal wear and tear.

      I won't get into a sob story here on the internet, but let this be a lesson: The clutches on mk6s and 7s are weak, and they will not stand behind it if and when they start slipping - which they seem to do even at stock power levels and without abuse.

      So if you do buy one, the 6 year 72k warranty will not save you from a major repair.
      dsg ftw

    24. 01-08-2020 01:12 PM #73
      Yeah as an addendum to my post. My clutch failure was pre-diesel gate

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      01-08-2020 01:14 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
      I'm not defending VW but, clutches are wear and tear. Imagine if every idiot (not saying you) came in with worn out clutches and VW replaced them at good will? They'd go bankrupt. Without knowing your driving habits, but sounds like you didnt abuse it or sounds like you havent done anything do justify the premature wear, it does appear there was some failure.

      Did they even bother to open it up and look? Typically you can tell on the clutch how it was driven or if it was some other factor
      I get it, but the car has 12,000 miles on it. There's no excuse for clutch slip. Period. And there's plenty of evidence both here and on the FB pages that the clutches are weak.

      VW wants me to pay $1500 to drop the trans, with no guarantee that they will warranty it. Sorry, not doing that on a $40,000 car that's effectively brand new still.
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      01-08-2020 01:17 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by Maximum_Download View Post
      ABusing the car will just guarantee further trouble. I am trying to be a partner here, not antagonistic. It's clear that if there's any chance the car will be repaired under warranty, it will need to be in a situation where VW is out of legs to stand on - especially around abuse. It's VERY clear VW is aware the clutches on these cars are weak and are looking for any and every avenue to get out from having to replace them.

      Oh yeah...no loaners. I didn't mention that. None available.

      Not bad for a $40,000 car, eh?

      This is just developing over Christmas so I haven't really said anything online, but it's starting to look like the endgame here is I am out of luck. Estimates to replace the clutch are around $2,000.
      In that case, I know of a pretty nice Audi dealership close by.

      Trade that POS in and lease yourself a new Audi!
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      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      maybe its just me, but i wouldnt put anything in the circle of "unrealistic" when it comes to sex.

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