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    Thread: TCL, I need your help. I think I'm going electric but I am somewhat lost.

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      01-08-2020 06:42 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post

      My understanding was the credits for the Model 3 have all been wiped out and there isn't a $33k model anymore? And no lifetime supercharging on these, right?
      No free supercharging, that's correct.

      You're also right that the rebates have reduce to $2,000 (I believe they're wiped out entirely for cars that have MSRPs over $60K). So the net price would be $37990 plus tax.

      But, you'd be getting a lot more car and performance than the Volt, and another to consider is that with its range, you'll likely only have to recharge once a week, if using your GTI's average miles/day figure.

      Depending on how easy the access is to charging for you, that may or may not be major convenience point to consider.

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      01-08-2020 06:48 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Surf Green View Post
      If you leave your GF, you can keep that $1,600 Volt for yourself.
      Easily the most cost effective solution right here.
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      01-08-2020 06:57 PM #28
      OP between the gen and gen 2 Volt I would always go with the gen 2 Volt. It's quicker, has significantly better range, gets better mpg on gas mode, has way better tech, better switchgear inside, Carplay standard, LED headlights, etc, etc, etc.

      While it does cost more I think it justifies it in advancements, not to mention resale.

      But if you're stuck on not paying out of pocket to go from the GTI to whatever you buy then that makes sense.

      This sort of boils down to what your priorities are. If they are to save money without dealing with charging issues you can't beat the Volts. If it's to find something else fun a Volt is fun in it's own way. Different fun, but fun.

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      01-08-2020 07:10 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post

      It seems that most of the 2017 eGolfs are still on lease and there isn't a very good selection of used ones. The one issue with the eGolf that the used Tesla doesn't have is the nearby supercharger. If I didn't get to charge at work, I'd need to plug it into a public charging station, since a 110v charge just wouldn't cut it with an eGolf. This is where the Volt excels, with that gas backup.
      I only have a 110v charger for my eGolf and don't charge at work. I only charge at home after work and it usually takes around 11-12 hours after my 40 mile commute.

      While I love my eGolf the early ones (2015-16) only have a range of 85 miles per charge. From what you're describing I don't think that will be enough even though you'll likely beat that in warmer SoCal. Know that most of the eGolfs have DC fast charging as well so you wouldn't need to sit around at a level 2 charger if you couldn't charge at work. Check out the Plugshare website for charging stations. The 2017-present get around 125 miles per charge but, like you mentioned, haven't really hit the used market.

      I voted Gen 1 Volt just for the cost factor but I know little about either generation so the Gen 2 might be a better buy even though it's a bit more.

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      01-08-2020 07:11 PM #31
      Are you hellbent on the Tesla?
      You may want to look into Tesla's own insurance offerings, the premiums may be lower.

      Also how far are you willing to drive?
      I see one in Stockton for $5k.
      https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/...040364859.html

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      01-08-2020 07:17 PM #32
      Gen 2 Volt if it fits and you can find one with a roll cage.


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      01-08-2020 07:20 PM #33
      Financial reasons? Get the cheap depreciated Volt. Pocket the offer on the GTI that doesn't make sense, as it seems way too high. Have a cheap commuter that can charge off 110v.

      Fun reasons? Sell everything and buy an M5.

      There is no in between.
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      01-08-2020 07:30 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
      Are you hellbent on the Tesla?
      You may want to look into Tesla's own insurance offerings, the premiums may be lower.

      Also how far are you willing to drive?
      I see one in Stockton for $5k.
      https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/...040364859.html
      Hmmm, didn't know Tesla did insurance.

      That one in Stockton is salvage. Even if it wasn't, it has a D as a 5th VIN character. That means it was a non-CA car originally and has no PZEV warranty.

      Here's how it breaks down, apparently.

      Non-CA cars, VIN 5th digit:

      A = No leather, no nav
      B = No leather, nav
      C = Leather, no nav
      D = Leather, nav

      CA PZEV cars (with PZEV warranty), VIN 5th digit:

      E = No leather, no nav - this is the $1,600 Volt
      F = No leather, nav
      G = Leather, no nav
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      01-08-2020 07:30 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Financial reasons? Get the cheap depreciated Volt. Pocket the offer on the GTI that doesn't make sense, as it seems way too high. Have a cheap commuter that can charge off 110v.

      Fun reasons? Sell everything and buy an M5.

      There is no in between.
      We're talking E34, of course, right?
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      01-08-2020 07:34 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      We're talking E34, of course, right?
      Whatever generation tickles your fancy. I'd endorse an E34 M5 with a nice Eisenmann race exhaust, no cats and headers.
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      01-08-2020 07:37 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Fun reasons? Sell everything and buy an M5.

      There is no in between.
      If only there was someone on here from SoCal that was selling their M5

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      01-08-2020 08:15 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by ghost03 View Post
      Another thing to consider is a Mk7 GTI. Have you driven one? The fit and finish is down slightly but they drive quite a bit better than Mk5/6.
      Fit and finish DOWN? Man, Mk7 all day every day for me.

      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      The 110v has been working fine for the Volt. In fact, I was able to squeeze out two back-and-forth trips to work without charging overnight. Obviously wouldn't really work for a Tesla. There will be Level 2 installed at a new place if everything falls into place, but that won't be for several months at least.
      right, that's what I meant. Wouldn't go pure EV on 110. Definitely not something with the consumption of the S. I think I can get 4-5mph of range on the 3 on 110. Maybe.
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    15. 01-08-2020 08:42 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by VadGTI View Post
      So, TCL, what do I do?
      This reminds me of something I just read on an investing web site. The site posed the following question and answer:

      "What do you do when someone offers you $500,000 for a $250,000 house? You sell the house."

      Take the ridiculous offer, for sure. Then buy the Gen 1 Volt. You'll come out thousands of dollars ahead now, plus you'll have the incoming rebate, and then there is the $1500+ you won't spend in gasoline each year. If you get bored after a year or two, the car won't depreciate much from its current value--you really cannot lose here.

      Do it.
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      01-08-2020 08:51 PM #40
      OP, I see only one EV in your future. A 2015-2017 BMW i3 with the REX (range extending engine). About $15-$23k. Depending on the gen, you get 80-120 miles of pure EV range AND the engine for those longer trips. Plus like the newer gen Volt, you can control when you use the engine to "save your charge". The car is quick, carbon fiber, and RWD. The tightest turning radius of any current vehicle. IMO, the best city vehicle of all time. I loved them so much I had 2! It's legit faster to 30/40 than the E92 M3 of it's time. They are much bigger inside than at first glance and drive much better than any other EV outside of Tesla. Trust me on this. Go test drive a nice one. Any questions?





      Also, I spent 8 months charging an EV with a 110v. Upgrading to Level 2 was a game changer so def do it especially since EV life may be more real for you. Don't forget the 30% tax break on anything you spent for EV charging at home up to $1,000. As much as I like Teslas, I wouldnt want to depend on an early Model S. Like you said, tons of expensive failure points with parts you can't just get at Advanced Auto. As cool as it is, build quality on the early cars is a little more than disappointing IMO. Money no option now? Yea, I'd take a ludicrous S/X but for your budget, i3 all the way.
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      01-08-2020 08:58 PM #41
      1. Sell the GTI to carvana... that's crazy money they are offering you and you are dumb if you decide to turn down crazy money. There is never a down side to sell a VW before the inevitable out of warranty repairs happen. Especially when someone is paying you above market.

      2. 110V charging is plenty for Tesla. You have a short commute so you will never deplete the Model S battery. Overnight charging at 110V is plenty. I know dozens (at least) Tesla owners in LA that just use 110V and hardly ever visits a supercharger station. Sure, you should plug it in for free when you visit the mall but I doubt you will ever need to go out of your way to supercharge if you just plug it in every night. 110V FTW

      3. You should buy the 2nd gen Volt because it fits your need the best (and apparently local so no need to buy anyone out of town a pastrami sandwich?) Give your GF the "new" Volt and you drive the $1600 beater.

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      01-08-2020 09:36 PM #42
      Some more options to consider:


      Ioniq EV, 126 mi range (the upcoming 2020 version will have up to 170 mi range) $30,315 MSRP


      And the upcoming Soul EV, which should have an MSRP of around $34K.



      I'd suggest the Kona as well, but then you're pushing $37-38K and are in Model 3 territory.

      Edit: Or get this used 2018 Ioniq EV (link) for $20,689.

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      01-08-2020 10:09 PM #43
      A $29K Model S WILL cost you more in parts eventually, don't do it. And I can't believe the insurance increase...

      I'd get the 2G Volt for relatively proper comfort and tech, and I personally like how they look. The 1G is a steal for what you get though, and it sounds like it's the one you want. I can also understand wanting to take Carvana's money and run.
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      01-08-2020 10:40 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Financial reasons? Get the cheap depreciated Volt. Pocket the offer on the GTI that doesn't make sense, as it seems way too high. Have a cheap commuter that can charge off 110v.

      Fun reasons? Sell everything and buy an M5.

      There is no in between.
      This. Exactly this.

      The offer for your GTI is ridiculous. Take it and run. The boredom will only creep further unless you dump modification money into it. This happened to me, and I regret it...
      A Volt will be my next car, with the caveat that I can have a 2nd fun car.
      Get the 1st gen Volt, pocket the sale price difference, pocket the gas savings, and enjoy the adventures of hypermiling.
      Then, save all that cash and prep yourself for the upcoming onslaught of EVs. Well, eventually.
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      01-08-2020 11:09 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Ark6 View Post
      Are you hellbent on the Tesla?
      You may want to look into Tesla's own insurance offerings, the premiums may be lower.

      Also how far are you willing to drive?
      I see one in Stockton for $5k.
      https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/...040364859.html
      Eh, This would keep me from buying it:





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      01-08-2020 11:10 PM #46
      Another satisfied e-Golf owner here. Mine's the el-cheapo SE, so it's go the slower on-board charger, 83 mile range and no DC fast charge capability. It works for us because we're a multi car household and it's the perfect commuter. I have 220V charging at home, and free charging at work and the gym. It's also fun to drive. Spreading the weight between the wheels makes it go around corners much better! Might not be the best solution for you unfortunately.

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      01-08-2020 11:58 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Whatever generation tickles your fancy. I'd endorse an E34 M5 with a nice Eisenmann race exhaust, no cats and headers.
      Speaking from experience, Vad this could be you.


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      01-09-2020 12:32 AM #48
      Do you care about CarPlay/Android Auto?

      Yes: Gen2 Volt
      No: Gen1 Volt

      For your use case, I wouldn’t recommend that used Model S. You should get a new Model 3 SR+ instead.

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      01-09-2020 12:42 AM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by G0to60 View Post
      Know that most of the eGolfs have DC fast charging as well so you wouldn't need to sit around at a level 2 charger if you couldn't charge at work. Check out the Plugshare website for charging stations. The 2017-present get around 125 miles per charge but, like you mentioned, haven't really hit the used market.
      I think this point bears emphasizing -- would a car with DC fast charging capability work for your needs for occasional charging if you couldn't charge at work for a few days? If so, definitely look at an i3 (they are great to drive!), a Bolt, or an eGolf.

      On whether you'll tire of EVs, hard to say, but my own experience is that I don't think I'll ever daily an ICE vehicle again. The quietness, smooth acceleration, instant heat/AC, low running costs, and other advantages have me hooked on EVs for commuting and short errands. I love my 500e. There is not much compromise if you have a backup ICE vehicle for days when range may be an issue.
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      01-09-2020 12:52 AM #50
      I voted Volt Gen 2.

      I'll stand behind that. They're great cars.

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