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      01-13-2020 03:15 PM #51
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      01-13-2020 03:25 PM #52
      When I heard that he was gone
      I felt a shadow cross my heart...

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      01-13-2020 03:52 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      Not sure if you would qualify it as rock in the traditional sense, but Stuart Copeland is a genius drummer, in the same vein as Peart, but on a different side of the rock spectrum.
      Absolutely. Porcaro / Peart / Copeland were my big 3. Only one left now.
      Sent from my basement using two tin cans and a string.

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      01-13-2020 05:01 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by MotownSVT View Post
      Might be my favorite lyrics of theirs... any kid growing up in the suburbs can relate:

      "Subdivisions"
      I'm going to date myself here, but I remember we had an assembly in high school when I was maybe 15 -- something about teen suicide or depression something -- and the assembly started with this song. I can still picture being in the school gym listening to this.

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      01-13-2020 06:26 PM #55
      KCRW's Morning Becomes Eclectic (89.9 FM Santa Monica College Public Radio Station) went 100% off-brand when they played "Tom Sawyer" this morning.

      I would wager they have never played a Rush song - ever.
      Epstein is alive.

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      01-14-2020 09:18 AM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by 2112 View Post
      When I heard that he was gone
      I felt a shadow cross my heart...
      I see by your user name, you are a fan.

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      01-14-2020 09:21 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      KCRW's Morning Becomes Eclectic (89.9 FM Santa Monica College Public Radio Station) went 100% off-brand when they played "Tom Sawyer" this morning.

      I would wager they have never played a Rush song - ever.
      Kudos to them for doing so, boo on them for having not done so previously. Three man bands are difficult to flesh out and nobody did it better than they.
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      01-14-2020 10:08 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Unilateral Phase Detractor View Post
      Rush is one of those bands you either "get" or think is totally forgettable.
      I appreciated it, I just didn't like their songs.

      That happens a lot with fantastic technical players, I love the playing, but can't listen to it more than a few times. Wow, neat, incredible, how many takes did it take them to get that down? I'm listening more to parts than I am the whole composition. Think of it as that Lamborghini Espada hot rod or a Donk. I can love the craftsmanship, and individual pieces, but as a whole, I'm over it.

      Also see: Nitro, trippy jam bands, or Ynything Malmsteen ever did.

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      01-14-2020 12:27 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      I appreciated it, I just didn't like their songs.

      That happens a lot with fantastic technical players, I love the playing, but can't listen to it more than a few times. Wow, neat, incredible, how many takes did it take them to get that down? I'm listening more to parts than I am the whole composition. Think of it as that Lamborghini Espada hot rod or a Donk. I can love the craftsmanship, and individual pieces, but as a whole, I'm over it.
      I can absolutely see your point on that. That's how I feel about Dream Theater. As a drummer I can certainly appreciate Mike Portnoy's talent but I can't listen to any of their stuff for longer than 10 minutes. Saw them in concert and I was bored 3 songs in. To me it was a big wankfest.

      But I love Rush because I think they were a bit different. Sure, they could go off on crazy 15-minute instrumentals but then they could put together a great rock song like "Freewill". There was enough there to satisfy the music nerds and the people who didn't know the difference between a guitar and a bass and just liked rock music.

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      01-14-2020 12:35 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Karl_1340 View Post
      I see by your user name, you are a fan.

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      01-14-2020 01:50 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by MotownSVT View Post
      I can absolutely see your point on that. That's how I feel about Dream Theater. As a drummer I can certainly appreciate Mike Portnoy's talent but I can't listen to any of their stuff for longer than 10 minutes. Saw them in concert and I was bored 3 songs in. To me it was a big wankfest.

      But I love Rush because I think they were a bit different. Sure, they could go off on crazy 15-minute instrumentals but then they could put together a great rock song like "Freewill". There was enough there to satisfy the music nerds and the people who didn't know the difference between a guitar and a bass and just liked rock music.
      That's where I am with them and I agree about Dream Theater as a comparison. I have musician friends who really get them/love them, but I can't. I just can't. I'm the same way with Thelonious Monk. I've always said that I'm not good enough at math to really "get" Monk. His music is incredibly complicated and intricate, but I can't listen to him for any length of time.

      Rush? I get it. Even things like YYZ are very "listenable" to me.
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      01-14-2020 03:14 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      That's where I am with them and I agree about Dream Theater as a comparison. I have musician friends who really get them/love them, but I can't. I just can't. I'm the same way with Thelonious Monk. I've always said that I'm not good enough at math to really "get" Monk. His music is incredibly complicated and intricate, but I can't listen to him for any length of time.

      Rush? I get it. Even things like YYZ are very "listenable" to me.
      x3 on Dream Theatre. But I respect the hell out of them and acknowledge their skill.

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      01-14-2020 03:32 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by MotownSVT View Post
      I can absolutely see your point on that. That's how I feel about Dream Theater. As a drummer I can certainly appreciate Mike Portnoy's talent but I can't listen to any of their stuff for longer than 10 minutes. Saw them in concert and I was bored 3 songs in. To me it was a big wankfest.

      But I love Rush because I think they were a bit different. Sure, they could go off on crazy 15-minute instrumentals but then they could put together a great rock song like "Freewill". There was enough there to satisfy the music nerds and the people who didn't know the difference between a guitar and a bass and just liked rock music.
      I take that back. I just listed to them for aboot a half an hour, and I do like all four of their songs.

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      01-14-2020 05:17 PM #64
      I always need a few Rush songs in my playlist for a road trip. Air drumming on my steering wheel to their music always seems to wake me up if I'm starting to feel sleepy. I saw Rush live once, and everyone from my group, including me, were blown away by Neil's performance. Such a tragic life he has had, with the deaths of his wife and daughter, and then getting cancer himself RIP, Neil.

    16. 01-14-2020 05:23 PM #65
      May he rest in Peace,

      Great wheel choice on the healey liking the mini cooper s wheels

    17. 01-14-2020 05:32 PM #66
      Had Roll the Bones, Counterparts, and Test for Echo in middle school/high school that really got me into the band.

      My brother had older albums and found myself listening to them a lot.
      Rush Chronicles was in my car for about 2 years.
      I still judge concerts on what i saw at the Test for Echo tour and have never seen a drum solo like Peart's. It was 2 drum sets on a turntable that would spin around. And as it kept going the thing would keep spinning and he just kept playing.

      My brother was a drummer as well and taught me the basics. But one thing i always pick up on is what the drums are doing in the song. Many times i get bored of a song when the fill is a few beats on a snare drum at the same count.

      But even the synthesized 80's progressive stuff that i don't care for, the drums are a show of their own.

      Love the band. Really wish i could have seen them again.
      Boiler Up!

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      01-14-2020 09:33 PM #68
      I posted elsewhere in a now locked thread but when Red Barchetta comes on the radio in your car (or Spotify/Pandora/Sirius/Whatever), to please the automotive gods, you must drive at the very limit of your skill, the vehicle, and the conditions. They shall smile upon you, all the way to jail.
      The above post may contain opinions, coarse language, offensive terms, spelling mistakes, and/or improper grammar. You have been warned.

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      01-14-2020 11:13 PM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by DeeJoker View Post
      I posted elsewhere in a now locked thread but when Red Barchetta comes on the radio in your car (or Spotify/Pandora/Sirius/Whatever), to please the automotive gods, you must drive at the very limit of your skill, the vehicle, and the conditions. They shall smile upon you, all the way to jail.
      Agree, though I prefer the fireside at my uncle’s house to jail.
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      01-15-2020 02:28 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Car Problems View Post
      Neil takes a backseat to no one.
      Epstein is alive.

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      01-15-2020 09:07 AM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyD View Post
      Lifelong drummer here and yeah, there are a ton of them. Neil was the biggest musical influence in my life, and he invented a style of rock / prog drumming that millions have imitated. But there is a huge list of drummers that are on or beyond his level. There is no GOAT, there are simply a group of guys operating at a very high level that Neil was obviously a part of. I love Rush (up to Moving Pictures), and have probably played more of their music than anyone else's. Friday was the first time I have ever cried over a "celebrity" death. If you want to hear other great drummers, start with:

      Gavin Harrison
      Marco Minneman
      Matt Garstka
      Larnell Lewis
      Thomas Pridgen
      Steve Smith
      Terry Bozzio
      Mike Portnoy
      Lang Zhao
      Todd Sucherman

      And the Legendary:
      Jeff Porcaro
      Bernard Purdie
      You're obviously better versed than I, but I don't think I'd call a list even twice that long "a ton".



      Quote Originally Posted by Ambrose Wolfinger View Post
      I don't think one can compare jazz giants like Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Max Roach etc to the rock giants like Peart, Bonham, Moon etc. They're just way too different. I do think Neil Peart's influence on rock drummers was similar to that as Buddy Rich's influence on jazz and especially big band drummers.

      And, as a drummer myself, I have to say (with all respect and admiration to Peart), Neil Peart never was a great jazz drummer. I think it was after the "Burning for Buddy" sessions he realized he still had areas where he could improve and started studying with Freddy Gruber. That is admirable in itself.
      That's one of the things that impressed me the most. Well after their glory days there he was, taking lessons and even relearning to play in the classic style of holding the sticks. That must've been tough at 50+ years old.

      I don't disagree that jazz drummers and rock drummers are apples/oranges. It'd be like comparing Flea to Stanley Clarke.
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      01-15-2020 09:08 AM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by jddaigle View Post
      Agree, though I prefer the fireside at my uncle’s house to jail.
      That could be bad, though. In my case my uncle didn't have a fireplace.
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      01-15-2020 09:19 AM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      Neil takes a backseat to no one.
      And Alex shouldn't be driving, Geddy should be.

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      01-15-2020 09:24 AM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by Karl_1340 View Post
      And Alex shouldn't be driving, Geddy should be.
      Geddy up?
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